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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Ian Price on August 03, 2009, 09:20:58 PM

Title: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Ian Price on August 03, 2009, 09:20:58 PM
Now, Firebirds have never done anything for me. That is until the last few days. Just reading my way through Guitarist (nearly done and 3 and a bit weeks to wait for the next one  :x) and realy, reallyreally like his red Firebird.

GAS alert!

Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Will on August 03, 2009, 09:32:29 PM
Please DO NOT mention firebird GAS!

I have always liked the look, need to play one to see what I think of the FB pickups though
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Ian Price on August 03, 2009, 09:38:32 PM
Sorry! It looks lovely though. I don't think I've ever seen a red one either.
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Will on August 03, 2009, 09:42:20 PM
I think that one would look good with a stop bar instead of Vibrola though, maybe leave the long part of the vibrola in place though
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Ian Price on August 03, 2009, 09:44:18 PM
Yeah - I agree. I would be tempted to convert it. I don't get on with vibrolas/trem arms etc. Hard tail all the way for me from now on.
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Will on August 03, 2009, 09:49:10 PM
(http://www.felineguitars.com/guitar_images/bass%20-%20thunderbird5%20andy%20salt/thunderbird-5-front-726.jpg)

I like the look of that sunburst style more than the red. A solid white one though....!
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Tellboy on August 03, 2009, 10:08:54 PM
I called into Soundpad in Barnstaple last week and they had four vintage Gibsons. The one that caught my eye was a 1963 Firebird 3 which had in the past belonged to Jefferson Starship. It oozed character - one or two dings on it but in great condition considering it was 46 years old - nitro finish had crazed all over/short vibrola. Even at £4995 I was sorely tempted  :roll:...... but the wife, who had been clothes shopping, was about to call in. They did offer to move the decimal point over for her benefit but even at that price she would probably thought it was too much to pay for an 'old' guitar.  :(
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Nadz1lla on August 03, 2009, 11:16:24 PM
Never really got into the Firebird body shape, but I really love the headstocks on those things, the 2-tone colours really add to the coolness! They had a White and Black one with Gold hardware in Manson's a few weeks ago, not sure if it's still there, but even though I'm not a massive fan of the body shape I couldn't take my eyes off it! It has strangely alluring qualities, but the headstock is definitely the most interesting design feature for me.

Maybe one day I'll build something with a similar headstock, just a different body shape...  :?
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Ian Price on August 03, 2009, 11:18:55 PM
I called into Soundpad in Barnstaple last week and they had four vintage Gibsons. The one that caught my eye was a 1963 Firebird 3 which had in the past belonged to Jefferson Starship. It oozed character - one or two dings on it but in great condition considering it was 46 years old - nitro finish had crazed all over/short vibrola. Even at £4995 I was sorely tempted  :roll:...... but the wife, who had been clothes shopping, was about to call in. They did offer to move the decimal point over for her benefit but even at that price she would probably thought it was too much to pay for an 'old' guitar.  :(

Sounds v. nice. That does strike me as a lot of money for it though - I assume it's due to it's provenance?
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Plexi Ken on August 04, 2009, 09:47:22 AM
I've been GASing for one ever since I bought Practical Pentatonics
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Practical-Pentatonics-Guitar-Askold-Buk/dp/0825614953/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1249375245&sr=8-1

It's not a good photo but I think a red Firebird should have chrome hardware, Steve's has gold.

AFAIK, Firebirds have the slim 60s neck  :( so I would need to get one custom built as I like big necks  :)
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Ian Price on August 04, 2009, 10:02:51 AM
I think gold looks better on Conte's model - it's a lighter shade of red, can't find a suitable pic of it to post on to this thread though! The deeper shades of red definitely go better with chrome though!
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: gwEm on August 04, 2009, 10:20:13 AM
i like those mini-humbuckers. i'd like a guitar with them on one day - firebird or les paul deluxe
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Plexi Ken on August 04, 2009, 10:46:35 AM
Steve's Firebird VII
http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/ArtistsAndEvents/Stories/new-york-dolls-guitarist-512/
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Tellboy on August 04, 2009, 11:00:28 AM
I called into Soundpad in Barnstaple last week and they had four vintage Gibsons. The one that caught my eye was a 1963 Firebird 3 which had in the past belonged to Jefferson Starship. It oozed character - one or two dings on it but in great condition considering it was 46 years old - nitro finish had crazed all over/short vibrola. Even at £4995 I was sorely tempted  :roll:...... but the wife, who had been clothes shopping, was about to call in. They did offer to move the decimal point over for her benefit but even at that price she would probably thought it was too much to pay for an 'old' guitar.  :(

Sounds v. nice. That does strike me as a lot of money for it though - I assume it's due to it's provenance?

Yes - it was used on some of their albums and I believe there is a signed copy and some other memorabilia with it. Nice guitar - like my 64 SG it 'smells' old. As it's a '63 it must have been one of the first ones produced.
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Will on August 04, 2009, 11:53:20 AM
I've been GASing for one ever since I bought Practical Pentatonics
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Practical-Pentatonics-Guitar-Askold-Buk/dp/0825614953/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1249375245&sr=8-1

It's not a good photo but I think a red Firebird should have chrome hardware, Steve's has gold.

AFAIK, Firebirds have the slim 60s neck  :( so I would need to get one custom built as I like big necks  :)

Ok, this sounds like a have the GAS baaad...

From what I have read they have made it a slightly bigger 60s neck, I am guessing similar to the 60/30 they have on the 339, but don't worry - all hope is not lost.

The Bicentennial firebird 1976 has a large neck, there is one on ebay for 1800 and one at V&R for about 4000!
I almost scored a humbucker routed one for £600 :lol:
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Philly Q on August 04, 2009, 12:16:36 PM
They are very cool looking guitars.

I had a Firebird Studio, a bit more basic with a set neck, humbuckers and a smaller headstock to defeat the neck-heaviness.

I don't think mine was a particularly great example, but it was pretty nice - very well-balanced so it seemed lighter than it really was.
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: FernandoDuarte on August 04, 2009, 07:48:32 PM
Can be good (for the curious) or bad (for the ones with GAS alert) but this thread had to have a pic of the Firebird in question:
(http://www.gibson.com/Files/aaFeaturesImages2009/newyorkdolls3.jpg)
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: AndyR on August 04, 2009, 07:57:01 PM
I've tried to get into the look of the Firebird but I just can't, sorry folks :(

I don't find the body very attractive, and I must admit that I find the headstock a bit yukky (might be because my fave guitar is a strat? dunno). I'm a confirmed Explorer man on the "way-out" gibbo designs... (I'd even take a V before a Firebird :lol:)

btw - how big are these things? I thought they were pretty massive? This Steve Conte bloke must be a giant!! He makes it look like a ukelele or something :lol:
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Ian Price on August 04, 2009, 08:09:12 PM
I've tried to get into the look of the Firebird but I just can't, sorry folks :(

That was my opinion until a few days ago. It will hit you one day Andy!!!
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Philly Q on August 04, 2009, 10:42:12 PM
btw - how big are these things? I thought they were pretty massive? This Steve Conte bloke must be a giant!! He makes it look like a ukelele or something :lol:

They're not that big - the body's almost like a rounded-off Explorer.  The headstock is really elongated, though, and I think it somehow makes the whole guitar seem bigger than it is.
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Rob Stobbs on August 10, 2009, 10:17:54 AM
Did someone say "Firebird"?

Muwahahahahahaha

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/RStobbs/17mar06014.jpg)
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: gwEm on August 10, 2009, 12:11:05 PM
firebirds look great - i like the original shape, not the weird one like the keyboardist in MSG played. i also prefer one or two pickup models in natural - the brightly colour 3 pickup ones are too bling for me
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Will on August 10, 2009, 12:39:10 PM
Did someone say "Firebird"?

Muwahahahahahaha

(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk207/RStobbs/17mar06014.jpg)

Have you stuck with stock pickups in those?
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Philly Q on August 10, 2009, 01:06:13 PM
Did someone say "Firebird"?

Muwahahahahahaha


Showoff!  :P

They do look mighty cool though.


(As does your Terry-Thomas avatar)
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Plexi Ken on August 10, 2009, 05:44:51 PM
Lovin' the Firebird I, but would still rather have a red one  :wink:
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: sgmypod on August 10, 2009, 05:50:45 PM
now have feline gas and firebird gas......mmm combine the two
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: AndyR on August 10, 2009, 06:20:47 PM
Actually, those do look good, Rob...

Still not the guitar shape for me though.
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Rob Stobbs on August 10, 2009, 10:21:19 PM
Totally Stock..... would you believe?
I must own up and admit that they were both sold shortly after this picture was taken because of needing to bail out the daughter.

If there was any justice in this world, I'd still have the Firebird 1 but....... C'est La Vie.  :oops:
Title: Re: Steve Conte's Firebird
Post by: Twinfan on August 10, 2009, 11:13:26 PM
Love the Firebird I  :D

This guy liked them too  ;)

(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m266/rileymaher/EricClaptonWithGibsonFirebirdI.jpg)