Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: hunter on August 09, 2009, 12:09:11 PM
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Check this fretboard guys. Isn't it gorgeous?
http://www.godlyd.no/default.asp?page=1&product=4707&p4707_v=1
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Nice bit of Braz there :)
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Haha, yeah I could have as well read that spec sheet :O)
Was too focused on the board ... tsss tsss
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nice example of what you can expect from current supplies of brazilian rosewood!
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nice example of what you can expect from current supplies of brazilian rosewood!
The grain is a bit on the wriggly side isn't it.
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i was just gonna call it stumpwood but i am sure suhr are 1 step above that!!
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Are all those squiggly bits regarded as "good", or would the ideal piece of Brazilian be straight-grained (as - I thought - it would be for Indian)?
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Well I don't know what's better tone wise, but looks wise, wiggly does it for me!
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yeah, traditionally a lot of the brazilian used on those instruments of old was straight grained but thats simply not availble now so most of what we see being used and fetching high prices is wigglier and often has more bug holes
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Quite surprising too see that actually as John Suhr preaches about straight grained and non figured neck wood on the forums whenever it comes up and how anything else is poop. Bet it cost a friggin' mint
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nice wood all-round, the mahogany looks sweet too
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I'd rather have a Tele.
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I prefer dark jacarandá (brazilian rosewood)
I had a les paul copy with a piece of jacarandá that looked just like ebony
I'm not into stained boards
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Quite surprising too see that actually as John Suhr preaches about straight grained and non figured neck wood on the forums whenever it comes up and how anything else is poop. Bet it cost a friggin' mint
I think it's the neck itself John Suhr is concerned about not the fingerboards. His argument that figured maple is more prone to warping/distorting when used in the neck makes sense but given the amount of manufacturers using figured wood for necks I suspect that distortion is less common than he maybe makes out. Although I have heard some manufacturers that have for a long time made used of birdseye for the necks (notably Peavey) are now switching to plain maple with figured boards so perhaps it took a while for people to notice.
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The Suhr Modern makes me look thoughtfully at my credit card.........
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I think it's the neck itself John Suhr is concerned about not the fingerboards. His argument that figured maple is more prone to warping/distorting when used in the neck makes sense but given the amount of manufacturers using figured wood for necks I suspect that distortion is less common than he maybe makes out. Although I have heard some manufacturers that have for a long time made used of birdseye for the necks (notably Peavey) are now switching to plain maple with figured boards so perhaps it took a while for people to notice.
suhr is not the first to point it out - it basically comes down to the grain structure of figured woods. Any figuring is generally considered a defect and particularly with flame you have less grain running the length of the neck blank (more run out)
Now maple is a lot stiffer than mahogany anyway. so a nicely flamed maple neck is still plenty stiff enough if chosen appropriately. a flamed mahognay neck is more of a worry
I use figured neck woods, usually maple but there are a few rules i follow. firstly the figure needs to be consistent through the neck. If you have a patch of flame and a patch of straight grain in teh same piece then you know those sections have very different internal tensions and thats gonna lead to warpage.
The wood should be as close to quartersawn or flatsawn as possible with most of the grain running the whole length even if the flame means some doesnt.
I prefer to laminate the necks
I also add dual Carbon fibre reinforcement and a two way truss rod to most necks, especially if they have figured wood
so whenever i see a factory made guitar with a figured neck i have to wonder if the appropriate precautions have been put in place... i really worry when its a guitar thats not advertised as having figured wood in the necks
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Cool!
Once I pointed a pic of a rosewood with that figuration to Larry at Gallery Hardwoods and he said he would NOT sell anything like this to me because it was probably cut a too short time ago...
Might add that is illegal to cut natural born Brazilian Rosewood trees (if you can find them anyway)... I suspect that some people have plantations of it or they know somewhere that still has some that anybody else have no idea... It's almost extincted here in Brazil...
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its illegal to cut the trees, its not illegal to pull up the stumps left behind from where the trees were - and they can apparently have quite a lot of wood in them, not much straight grained stuff though.
I suspect a lot of new wood we see on the market is reclaimed stump wood
now like all woods some stump wood will be good and some will be bad, but very little of it is straight grained like the braz rosewood of old
personally i would rather just use something else!... unless i happen to find a nice old stock somewhere