Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Dmoney on August 23, 2009, 02:29:14 AM
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decided to have an experiment by stringing my LTD up this way...
(http://www.dominocs.com/ToneWorks/images/gibson-wrap.jpg)
so far all seems well, strings seem way more flexible but the guitar overall needs a set up. getting buzz on the high e.
want to get it all set for the weekend.
anyway, so far i quite like how the guitar feels when strung this way. not plugged it in yet... but more experimentation to follow.
treble bleed mod with parallel 0.001uf orange drop and 150K resistor seems to be ok so far!
anyone else string their guitar this way?
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I tried it once on my Epi LP, but, like yourself, got a lot of buzz on the high e.
Ever since then i've never bothered with it!
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i had buzz on my high e anyway.
my ltd has never had a set up since ive owned it, and its been thrashed!
im gonna sit down and read up on bridge height etc and check the intonation.
if that doesnt help ill put it back.
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I tried it on my Edwards, but I've gone back because I like the extra tension and I got a buzz on the low E. Don't even know why I tried it really.
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I have 2 set that way. But I went up a gauge each time I did it.
No problems with buzz. It's no better, just a different feel to it
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I have 2 set that way. But I went up a gauge each time I did it.
No problems with buzz. It's no better, just a different feel to it
+1, what I did on the Ewards JP Les Paul.
Went up to 11s and top wrapped. The guitar sings now as it never has before, it really brought out that vocal thing, and playability is just a little bit more tension than 10s, but much more beef to the tone.
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im still running 10's on this (the one from Feline!)
I don't think ive ever set this guitar up since ive had it. generally speaking i put much less effort into this guitar than my les paul.
I think both my guitars need a pro setup really. Ive still not plugged in the LTD but it does feel different. i kind of like it.
if i can't sort the string buzz by checking the action or whatever then i'll go back i guess. or just raise the stop bar a little.
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if i can't sort the string buzz by checking the action or whatever then i'll go back i guess. or just raise the stop bar a little.
I am wondering, if top wrapping reduces tension, wouldn't rather a slight lackening of the truss rod be the correct counter measure?
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I dont think so hunter, the tension pulling on the neck is theoretically the same if the tuning and string gauge is the same
what changes when top wrapping is the downward pressure on the bridge and the percieved tension of the strings when bending (the slight extra length involved may play a role here)
having said that, i havnt done enough experiments with top-wrapping to be sure
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in my steinberger, which has a low string break angle, and not much extra string length bending is convenient even with 12s on a 25.5" scale in standard tuning. i also haven't done much experimentation, but believe wez is talking sense
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Why would you to make a lespaul play easier, it's already really friendly for bending 8)
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I may very well be wrong...... has been known before, but, I had always assumed that Top Wrapping came into existence because of the variations of "Neck Set" found on Les Pauls over the years? I have owned a few LPs over the years and would say that I have only had one that was "near" to right. By "right" I would say that I am talking about a Bridge that was barely off the body and still allowed for a very low action and no rattles and buzzes. With the Tailpiece screwed hard down, there was really no more angle on the rise from Tailpiece to the bridge saddle than there was from the nut to the Tuner post.
I had sort of assumed that Top Wrapping came into its own when people were having to raise their bridges so substantially that their strings were binding on the back of the bridge before crossing the saddles. Instead of raising the stop tail piece to alter that angle, it was more simple to just top wrap which then negated the need to raise the Stopbar.... which is reckoned to be a way of decreasing the guitar's natural sustain, so....... wind the stopbar down tight and topwrap!
As I say..... this might of course be a load of old cobblers, but it makes sense to my addled mind.
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tried it on my LTD. not my les paul.
it just feels different. I agree les pauls aren't that hard to play, i was just trying it out, wasn't really trying to solve anything by doing it, just giving it a go. what Wez says does make sense.
what Rob is saying sounds right too from what ive read.
keep resonance in there by screwing the stop tail fully down and still having the shallower angle across the saddless.
could all be the muso cobwebs and magic
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That tailpiece was invented to be topwrapped though ;)
I quite like 10-52s top wrapped on my LP, I have the nut cut a little higher on that so the notes ring clear.
But to be honest, I do quite like my old Gibson with 10-46 with the Kahler trem set so the angle is a bit more.
I think the next one is going to be 10-52 top wrapped, but with Feline's setup I am sure it will be perfect with a more reasonable height nut.