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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: hunter on September 07, 2009, 06:56:26 PM

Title: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: hunter on September 07, 2009, 06:56:26 PM

What it says in the thread title, which delays do you use?

Use them in front or in loop?

Parallel or series loop?

Multiple delays for different toanZ?

Tap tempo or manual adjustments?

Do you tweak it a lot or just one setting and go?

I wanna know it all!

 8)
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Twinfan on September 07, 2009, 07:16:57 PM
What it says in the thread title, which delays do you use? - MXR Carbon Copy

Use them in front or in loop? - neither at the monent, but it will be in the loop soon  ;)

Parallel or series loop? - I'll have the option of either

Multiple delays for different toanZ? - nope, just one pedal and one setting

Tap tempo or manual adjustments? - manual

Do you tweak it a lot or just one setting and go? - one setting and go for some atmosphere

I wanna know it all! - I've said it  :P
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: sebby123 on September 07, 2009, 07:34:21 PM
What it says in the thread title, which delays do you use? - Eventide Time Factor, Carbon Copy

Use them in front or in loop? Time Factor in Loop, Carbon up front
Parallel or series loop? Series

Multiple delays for different toanZ? Time factor is set for a lead delay and a long delay setting, and the carbon copy for a big wet chorus effect

Tap tempo or manual adjustments? Tap Tempo

Do you tweak it a lot or just one setting and go? One setting and go
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: CJ on September 07, 2009, 07:39:06 PM
danelectro pb&j. just a cheap but effective pedal. use it up front because i don't have enough cables to put it through the loop.  :lol:
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Lu_B on September 07, 2009, 07:49:43 PM
Carbon Copy in front as my Cornford doesn't have an effects loop.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: shobet on September 07, 2009, 08:36:00 PM
Vox Time Machine in front of the amp. I like to fiddle and tap.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: martinw on September 07, 2009, 08:54:21 PM
DD-3 in front of the amp.
3 settings adjusted between songs.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Andrew W on September 07, 2009, 09:04:28 PM
I have a Carbon Copy which goes in front of the amp as I have no effects loop. I tend to set it for either slap back echo or super long Pink Floyd type echoes.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Brow on September 07, 2009, 09:27:22 PM
Which delays do you use? Ibanez DE7 Delay/Echo on my main board and Danelectro Dan-Echo on my smaller board

Use them in front or in loop? Infront of amp as most of the time I get all dirt sounds from pedals

Parallel or series loop? N/A

Multiple delays for different toanZ? Nope, 1 pedal per board

Tap tempo or manual adjustments? Manual

Do you tweak it a lot or just one setting and go? Mainly 1 setting but do tweak if wanting self oscillation effects :)
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Will on September 07, 2009, 09:54:58 PM
I have a Carbon Copy which goes in front of the amp as I have no effects loop. I tend to set it for either slap back echo or super long Pink Floyd type echoes.
Me too. Being lazy :)
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: murraymurray on September 07, 2009, 09:59:00 PM
modtone analog delay
in front of my amp after overdrives, in a switchable loop amp doesnt have effects loop,
one pedal one setting, set and leave
only really use it to make my leads sound a bit cooler.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: badgermark on September 07, 2009, 10:08:51 PM
A BYOC 'analogue' delay. Set for either 250ms or 500ms infront of my clean tiny terror. I love delay, but cant be bothered faffing around with anything with a lot of options.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: dave_mc on September 07, 2009, 10:09:38 PM
i use the cheapo daphon analogue one, and a digitech digidelay for when i need a digital delay. I generally use them in the loop, unless the amp i'm using doesn't have one.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: hunter on September 07, 2009, 10:35:30 PM
Ah there are definitely patterns here.

What I'm wondering, as so many of you seem to use delays up front, don't you hate it when the delay is mushing up your lead tones, being in front of the overdrive? Or do you use drive pedals before the delays and run the amps cleanish?
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: CJ on September 07, 2009, 10:49:38 PM
Ah there are definitely patterns here.

What I'm wondering, as so many of you seem to use delays up front, don't you hate it when the delay is mushing up your lead tones, being in front of the overdrive? Or do you use drive pedals before the delays and run the amps cleanish?

i think i run my delay last in my chain. or somewhere after the overdrive. to be honest i didn't notice a huge difference between straight in the front and through the loop.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Andrew W on September 07, 2009, 10:56:04 PM
Ah there are definitely patterns here.

What I'm wondering, as so many of you seem to use delays up front, don't you hate it when the delay is mushing up your lead tones, being in front of the overdrive? Or do you use drive pedals before the delays and run the amps cleanish?

I put my delay last in the signal chain, but I don't usually use very gainy sounds with delay, unless it's a little slap back echo.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: badgermark on September 07, 2009, 11:07:22 PM
Ah there are definitely patterns here.

What I'm wondering, as so many of you seem to use delays up front, don't you hate it when the delay is mushing up your lead tones, being in front of the overdrive? Or do you use drive pedals before the delays and run the amps cleanish?

I put my delay last in the signal chain, but I don't usually use very gainy sounds with delay, unless it's a little slap back echo.

My amp is set clean, with distortion coming before the delay through pedals.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Zaned on September 08, 2009, 06:47:37 AM
What it says in the thread title, which delays do you use? BOSS DD-20 Giga delay

Use them in front or in loop? Loop, for the exact reason Hunter said.

Parallel or series loop? Parallel, but with the mix knob usually set for full series action.

Multiple delays for different toanZ? A couple of patches, a small delay is permanently on. For clean tones,
I usually turn on a wetter delay patch with chorus from the DD-20 itself.

Tap tempo or manual adjustments? I haven't adjusted them for a while :) Manual adjustments usually however.

Do you tweak it a lot or just one setting and go? I do get the urge every now and then but usually forget and go.

I wanna know it all! I used to have a Line6 DL4 in the place, but it didn't work too good with the line level loop. It expects an instrument level signal and would have required modification to work properly.

-Zaned
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Twinfan on September 08, 2009, 08:54:56 AM
What I'm wondering, as so many of you seem to use delays up front, don't you hate it when the delay is mushing up your lead tones, being in front of the overdrive? Or do you use drive pedals before the delays and run the amps cleanish?

I used to use mine up front into a clean amp, worked great.  Dirty amp - it's awful.  Oscillations and mush.

Hence the move to the loop, but my simple series loop provides too much signal for the input of the Carbon Copy.  So you get a massive volume drop when you turn it on.  Not good.

Hence Martin is working on the external loop system for me.....
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: hunter on September 08, 2009, 09:16:27 AM
What I'm wondering, as so many of you seem to use delays up front, don't you hate it when the delay is mushing up your lead tones, being in front of the overdrive? Or do you use drive pedals before the delays and run the amps cleanish?

I used to use mine up front into a clean amp, worked great.  Dirty amp - it's awful.  Oscillations and mush.

Hence the move to the loop, but my simple series loop provides too much signal for the input of the Carbon Copy.  So you get a massive volume drop when you turn it on.  Not good.

Hence Martin is working on the external loop system for me.....

Instead of modifying the amp you could also use a line level shifter from EbTech. This one offers a loop which converts +4 to -10 and then again back for the return. Works both ways, so line=>instr or the other way round: http://www.ebtechaudio.com/lls-2des.html
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Twinfan on September 08, 2009, 09:35:19 AM
The amp itself isn't being modified, Martin is building a stand alone loop box which will have features to control signal levels, select series or parallel etc.  I guess a mixture of features from the shifter you mention above and that Suhr box mentioned in another thread.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: maverickf1jockey on September 08, 2009, 09:36:21 AM
What it says in the thread title, which delays do you use?

Boss RE-20 Space Echo

Use them in front or in loop?

Infront of a clean amp.

Parallel or series loop?

N/A

Multiple delays for different toanZ?

No

Tap tempo or manual adjustments?

Either depending on the context.

Do you tweak it a lot or just one setting and go?

Again it depends on what I'm going for.
Generally I do set it straight for a bit of body to lead sounds though if I want to make some crazy sounds I'll use settings that are a bit more left field.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Ratrod on September 08, 2009, 10:20:29 AM
I use a Boss RE-20.

Plugged in front of the amp, it overloads in the FX loop.

I mostly use mode 1 set for a rockabilly slapback echo. Sometimes mode 3 for that Sleepwalk echo and on occasion mode 2 for an arena echo. Sometimes I crank the input knob for some extra grit on the clean. I only use the tap tempo for the UFO sounds. All the other knobs stay where they are.

Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Elliot on September 08, 2009, 11:38:49 AM
Ibanez DE7 in front of the amp, but looped on the board to be out of the signal chain until needed.  To be honest I only use it for 50s and 60s slap back echo type effects, so its not on very much.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: MrBump on September 08, 2009, 11:49:15 AM
I'm a big fan of "mush".

I use a Moen Pretty Dolly, very cheap, very mushy.  Just fills out the sound - particularly used for slapback  Sounds great with a Tele!

Straight into the front of my Orange.  What's an FX loop???
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: blue on September 08, 2009, 01:01:20 PM
i have a ThunderTomate Analogue Delay and a Danelectro Reel Echo.  i've used the Dano for atmospheric effects and slapback.  the Thundertomate is great for fairly short delays, and you can get wonderfully wacky sounds when you fiddle with the knobs!  in fact, i've gotten one of those third hand pedals so i can adjust it with my foot for pseudo pitch shifting wildness!  haven't actually tried it yet though.

i haven't tried either in a loop yet, but i will.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Antag on September 08, 2009, 01:19:59 PM
hat it says in the thread title, which delays do you use? TC ELECTRONIC G-MAJOR

Use them in front or in loop? FX loop 1 of my Engl, so it only affects Channel 1 & 2

Parallel or series loop? umm, parallel I think, though I have the FX mix pot on 100%

Multiple delays for different toanZ? nope, just use one of the stock presets for a lush reverb & delay

Tap tempo or manual adjustments? never adjust it, but would do it manually if I did

Do you tweak it a lot or just one setting and go? see above

I wanna know it all! that enough? :)
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: sjwebb90 on September 08, 2009, 01:39:48 PM

I always use the series loop of my Cornford (Hellcat & MK50II heads) for all my modulation effects, that being Chorus, Flanger & Delay.

To my ears, on the Cornford, the series loop is most definitely the way it needs to be. I read somewhere the loop has been optimised for pedals anyway (-6db.)

On the delay front I have a Boss DD3A variant (circa 1991), it retains the NE570 expander/ compander chip and sounds better than the later DD-5's (to my ears anyway). I also have a T Rex Replica, and a self built PT-80 from general guitar gadgets DIY site, which is a great sound analogue delay built around the frequency roll off parameters of the Boss DM2.

http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=125&Itemid=26

I use one delay and don't use the TAP tempo live. I just use a generic setting "fits all" . Mainly use delay for lead breaks.

Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Mr. Air on September 08, 2009, 01:58:09 PM
I got a T-Rex Replica that I run in front of the amp which haven't got a loop. Actually I doesn't really use delay that much, but when I do it's mostly set for a long or semi long delay time. I love to do volume swells and make some "whale singing" and other funny things.

I'm quite a clutch using the tap tempo as I find it quite hard to hit the right tempo.

I run my amp clean and have the delay as the second last pedal in my chain so overdrive and distortion comes before and it sounds good.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Alex on September 08, 2009, 02:14:11 PM
I use a Digitech X-Series Delay in the effect loop. It is about as good as the Boss one.

However, I'd rather have an Line6 Echo Park or the Digitech Hardwire one. They are a bit better. If you are going to use A LOT of delay I'd rather go for those.

The MXR Carbon Copy... hmm well.. for me that is more like a Chorus pedal in what it does. Very nice, but not what I kind of think of when I think of delays.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: marantz1300 on September 08, 2009, 06:31:44 PM
I have two tape echo's,a WEM and a Melos.I also have Danelectre ,Boss and Arion pedals. The one I use 99% of the time is the cheap ,plastic Arion SAD1. It has a lovely warm lush  anolouge tone, without any of the noise problems of the tape echos or the sterility of the digital delays.I use it straight into my Super Lead(no loop),but use the loop on my Hiwatt.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Lew on September 08, 2009, 09:01:29 PM

Hence Martin is working on the external loop system for me.....

And hopefully it will be available for anyone to order?  8)
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: dave_mc on September 08, 2009, 09:57:03 PM
Parallel or series loop? umm, parallel I think, though I have the FX mix pot on 100%

if it's the same loop as on my savage se, i think that makes it serial (setting it to 100% wet, that is). I think... i could be wrong. :lol:
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Twinfan on September 09, 2009, 12:09:58 AM

Hence Martin is working on the external loop system for me.....

And hopefully it will be available for anyone to order?  8)

Yep, that's the idea....
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: mikey5 on September 09, 2009, 01:43:55 AM
I think the subdecay echobox is the ultimate delay
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: blackie on September 09, 2009, 11:19:43 AM
What it says in the thread title, which delays do you use?
BOSS DD-3

Use them in front or in loop?
LOOP

Parallel or series loop?
SERIES I THINK

Multiple delays for different toanZ?
JUST FOR MY SOLOS

Tap tempo or manual adjustments?
MANUAL...ONE SETTING ala PAUL GILBERT

Do you tweak it a lot or just one setting and go?
NO I LIKE IT THE WAY IT SOUNDS

I wanna know it all!
OK OK I CHEATED IN MY MATH EXAMS WHEN I WAS 14...
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Groove Cartel on September 09, 2009, 12:53:32 PM
TC Electronics Nova Repeater all the way. Can be run series or parallel, has a tap tempo that sense's your strumming and plenty of modes. Very good high quality, affordable delay unit.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: HTH AMPS on September 09, 2009, 12:53:36 PM
I'm not really much of a fan of delay - the only one I really liked was an old EH Memory Man, but even then it was limited to easing a little bit into the mix when recording.

I prefer reverb in general for adding ambience.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: hunter on September 11, 2009, 06:36:56 AM
I'm not really much of a fan of delay - the only one I really liked was an old EH Memory Man, but even then it was limited to easing a little bit into the mix when recording.

I prefer reverb in general for adding ambience.

and which reverb are you using?
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: sjwebb90 on September 11, 2009, 10:26:37 AM

When using the Cornford Hellcat I use the internal built in reverb.

When using the Cornford MK50II I am currently using a Mr Springgy.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Mr. Air on September 11, 2009, 11:47:37 AM
TC Electronics Nova Repeater all the way. Can be run series or parallel, has a tap tempo that sense's your strumming and plenty of modes. Very good high quality, affordable delay unit.

I must say that the Nova Repeater seems mighty intriguing. Lots of possibilities and yet a very reasonable price.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Ratrod on September 11, 2009, 12:13:46 PM
and which reverb are you using?

The built in one in my amp. 6 spring (2X3) Acutronics unit.

There's a reverb on the RE-20 that sucks just as much as the one on the original RE-201.  :lol: So I never use that.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: camf on October 02, 2009, 10:28:15 PM
T Rex Reptile in the loop... it is ace.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: SchonFan83 on October 12, 2009, 12:14:33 AM
I change 'em out often--get bored easily...though I've never been into the digital delays much.

I love older Ibanez/Maxon AD99 And AD999.

I'm currently using an MXR Carbon Copy.

When I get a little extra scratch I will probably either spring for another Maxon or an MG Pedals Thats Echo Folks.

Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: Frank on October 12, 2009, 01:27:53 AM
still using my ancient Quadraverb, from the days when I learned how to tempo-match the delay times to sound like U2

barely use it now though, it's just a few extra flashing LEDs in the rack these days
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: SchonFan83 on October 13, 2009, 10:58:46 PM
oops...i mentioned what I am using but didnt give what you asked for :)

What it says in the thread title, which delays do you use?

Use them in front or in loop? Only up front...I dont own any amps with loops currently

Parallel or series loop? see above

Multiple delays?   Ive played with multiples before but now I just use one single delay setting and I only use it on leads.  I really dont like overly wet rhythm tones

Tap tempo or manual adjustments? Manual.  Although the tap features are cool to have

Do you tweak it a lot or just one setting and go? I use a longish delay...about 500-600 ms on a rather low mix setting, with a medium decay

I wanna know it all!
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: CJBadge on November 27, 2009, 12:17:37 AM
TC Electronics Nova System. Love it!
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: dheim on November 27, 2009, 09:34:15 PM
TC electronic G-sharp.

very transparent and CHEAP.

my favourite delay is still POD's "digital delay", anyway
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: gwEm on November 28, 2009, 02:45:59 AM
i use a delay plugin in the studio sure, live i keep it simple with no delay
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: choucas09 on November 28, 2009, 02:55:50 AM
Good old DD-20 in the loop or up front whatever. I doubt I'll ever want much more of a delay than this.
Title: Re: What delays are you guys using?
Post by: dheim on November 28, 2009, 12:41:11 PM
uh uh, i forgot to specify...

i use it in the fx loop.
once (some 10-15 years ago...) i had a Boss delay-reverb in front of the amp but those were Metal Zone before clean amp times, so it doesn't count!

i use my delay A LOT. i play a lot of lead lines and delay is part of my sound... of course i don't use it on rhythm guitar!