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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: MDV on September 14, 2009, 02:22:30 PM

Title: Which 5751?
Post by: MDV on September 14, 2009, 02:22:30 PM
JAN - hard to find.
EH, groove tubes, any others? Whats good out of whats readily available.

Purpose is to get a bit more of a smoother high end and opener grindier mid (rather than just top end) into a powerball.
Title: Re: Which 5751?
Post by: MDV on September 14, 2009, 02:54:44 PM
Never mind, looks like watford valves have the JANs. Will call.
Title: Re: Which 5751?
Post by: MDV on September 14, 2009, 05:11:44 PM
jan phillips off watford valves, sorted. Hopefully.
Title: Re: Which 5751?
Post by: dave_mc on September 14, 2009, 05:59:18 PM
interesting. I think my savage se has a 5751 in V1. It's supposed to have, anyway. :lol: it does sound a bit smoother than most of the other engls I've tried, but then again they could do that with the circuit design too, i assume.
Title: Re: Which 5751?
Post by: MDV on September 14, 2009, 06:07:48 PM
Pass.

HTH suggested it in V1 and the phase inverter when he asked me what I didnt like about my PB.

Edit - no, HTH suggested in the phase inverter slot and I thought V1 too. So I got one for both. Apparently V4 can help too (according to the engl boards). 
Title: Re: Which 5751?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on September 14, 2009, 06:41:01 PM
I have a couple of spare Cryo treated JAN 5751s from Watford valves but looks like you are sorted out now
Title: Re: Which 5751?
Post by: BigK on September 14, 2009, 08:43:37 PM
The Jan phillips in V1 worked really well on my powerball, I might get one for V4 as well sounds like a good idea. Cant wait to hear your results :P
Title: Re: Which 5751?
Post by: MDV on September 14, 2009, 09:35:27 PM
That would have been epic good fortune if I didnt find any, jon, and I may, just may, still take you up on it...if the cryos are any better than the normal ones.

I'll post my findings, when I have some.
Title: Re: Which 5751?
Post by: dave_mc on September 14, 2009, 10:37:18 PM
i haven't been to the engl boards in ages. I forgot about them... i think i forgot to add them to my bookmarks when i changed to firefox. :lol: must actually bookmark them now i remember, in case anything ever comes up in the future. You mean the lordriffenstein one, right? :)

Title: Re: Which 5751?
Post by: HTH AMPS on September 14, 2009, 10:45:50 PM
Pass.

HTH suggested it in V1 and the phase inverter when he asked me what I didnt like about my PB.

Edit - no, HTH suggested in the phase inverter slot and I thought V1 too. So I got one for both. Apparently V4 can help too (according to the engl boards). 

I suggested trying one in the PI, you said V1 and I concurred  :lol:

V1 will have the most obvious effect - it always will with any amp.  The PI just takes the edge off things overall and gives less gain in this stage.

Title: Re: Which 5751?
Post by: Elliot on September 15, 2009, 10:04:07 AM
I pretty much use 5751 in all my amps in V1 and the PI slot - they give a nice curtailment of gain that allows about a 1 notch drop in overall volume but stops the amp being flooded with gain - this allows you to use pedals in better.     

In my experience JAN Philips are more middy and work better for bluesy tweed/marshall tone and JAN GE have more sparkle and give a better blackface/chimey Vox type tone.  Of course, tubes make only a small difference to overall tone, so that is a relative and personal comparison.  But given how easy it is to get NOS 5751s for a good price I wouldn't bother with new issued ones.
Title: Re: Which 5751?
Post by: MDV on September 15, 2009, 11:47:01 AM
Pass.

HTH suggested it in V1 and the phase inverter when he asked me what I didnt like about my PB.

Edit - no, HTH suggested in the phase inverter slot and I thought V1 too. So I got one for both. Apparently V4 can help too (according to the engl boards). 

I suggested trying one in the PI, you said V1 and I concurred  :lol:

V1 will have the most obvious effect - it always will with any amp.  The PI just takes the edge off things overall and gives less gain in this stage.



Yeah, thats the one! :lol:

I'll try them one at a time anyway. I want to hear the difference of each change.
Title: Re: Which 5751?
Post by: JDC on September 15, 2009, 02:34:00 PM
MDV if this fixes your ultimate metal amp GAS, I'm going to eat my Jackson!