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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Lew on September 23, 2009, 03:29:32 PM
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Don't think this has been talked about here yet. Just found this over at Musicaradar...
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/janie-hendrix-talks-signature-guitars-new-releases-220966
http://www2.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Blogs/Gibson-USA-Blog/September-2009/Live-From-the-Production-Line-at-Gibson-USA.aspx
http://www.guitarist.co.uk/page/guitarist?entry=janie_hendrix_talks_about_the
http://www.guitarworld.com/article/gibson_amp_authentic_hendrix_announce_3_new_hendrix_guitars
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LAME
They are just milking it (very poorly) to the point of ridiculousness, you hired gibson to make fender knock-offs? Low points for the hendrix family and gibson
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An all time low....
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Dear god the fail, the FAIL!
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I looked at the link but I've now gone instantly blind - I'm not sure which is worse, this or Alesha Dixon on Strictly
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tsk tsk tsk :?
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Hendrix signature Gibson can only be a Flying V... what is this bullsh1t?
I want a Page signature Fender - not a Telecaster but a Les Paul...
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I think it will look pretty authentic when you tip lighter fluid on it and set fire to it :evil:
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Hendrix signature Gibson can only be a Flying V...
or a white SG
this is daft. they have been spending so much money attacking other guitar companies for copying them and they do this. i hope the judge in their next inevitable court case has something to say about it ;)
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I've got to say - todays Fender vs todays Gibson... I take the Fender everytime - guitar quality-wise and ethics-wise.
Its been a while since I played a bad modern Fender, and they sorted out their budget range too.
Im sure someone will disagree with me now :lol:
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Hendrix signature Gibson can only be a Flying V...
or a white SG
great Hendrix knowledge there which I overlooked
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I've got to say - todays Fender vs todays Gibson... I take the Fender everytime - guitar quality-wise and ethics-wise.
Its been a while since I played a bad modern Fender, and they sorted out their budget range too.
Im sure someone will disagree with me now :lol:
I couldn't agree more, I've been saying it for ages. Fender are doing amazing stuff at amazing prices.
Hendrix signature Gibson can only be a Flying V...
or a white SG
or they could've told Janie Hendrix to $%&# off.
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Do the guys at Gibson even care about guitars? :oops:
... and a 3 p/u SG custom in white with gold h/w would be so much more appropriate :P
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problem i now see is that this starter pack is now directly in competition with all the other strat style starters out there. and the rest all look a lot more like jimi's actual guitar
how many flying V starter packs are there? would that not have been a much better choice for gibson to persue. would the kids not go crazy for that if they had a choice between the two
at least that way they could use a picture of him playing one of their guitars on the box
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funny thing is, on the 2nd link, which is a link to the gibson site.. all the comments are just slagging gibson off... made me lol...
but, this is just terrible, money making at its worst. bad bad bad
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problem i now see is that this starter pack is now directly in competition with all the other strat style starters out there. and the rest all look a lot more like jimi's actual guitar
how many flying V starter packs are there? would that not have been a much better choice for gibson to persue. would the kids not go crazy for that if they had a choice between the two
at least that way they could use a picture of him playing one of their guitars on the box
That's the best bit isn't it? Using a pic of him playing a Fender Strat on the box... :lol:
(http://mos.musicradar.com/images/Product%20News/Guitar/sept09/hendrix-gibson/hendrix-package-850-100.jpg)
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Do the kids these days care as much about Hendrix, maybe someone more up-to-date would have been a good starter pack choice
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An affordable "branded" Flying V would have been such a success.
I can only believe that the decision makers at Gibson are so far removed from guitarists and even their own heritage that they will continue to alienate us.
Have you seen what people are saying on Gibson's own site?
The message is loud and clear - they are taking an overdue beating because the flood gates have been opened by this.
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That's the best bit isn't it? Using a pic of him playing a Fender Strat on the box... :lol:
:lol:
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Ummm...
... speechless
Money making's fine by me, I got no real problem, if there are idiots out there to buy it, so be it...
but, er, some poor kid's gonna get this in his christmas stocking... does it come with a baseball cap with "dork" written on it?
Still, look on the bright side, might be a good guitar....
But...
I've got to say - todays Fender vs todays Gibson... I take the Fender everytime - guitar quality-wise and ethics-wise.
Its been a while since I played a bad modern Fender, and they sorted out their budget range too.
Im sure someone will disagree with me now :lol:
Actually no, I have to agree gwem, based on my limited experience anyway...
So it's not looking too good...
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Do the kids these days care as much about Hendrix, maybe someone more up-to-date would have been a good starter pack choice
most possibly wont care one bit about him, but i suppose it might slightly influence the parents.
a flying v one would have been popular and may have actually introduced kids to hendrix - which must be the aim of the authentic hendrix organisation
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Do the guys at Gibson even care about guitars? :oops:
... and a 3 p/u SG custom in white with gold h/w would be so much more appropriate :P
answer is no.
i spoke to n ex gibson PR guy.
he opinion of the company was... less than average.... to put it nicely.
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I was just wondering about the strat on the box - how do Fender sit with that, won't they want money for the image... when I recalled reading this just now...
Janie Hendrix: "Well it started when we were fighting to get the rights to Jimi’s legacy back, around 1992-’95 [Janie refers to the legal battle over Jimi Hendrix’s estate with attorney Leo Branton in 1995]. Gibson had developed this Flying V with Jimi’s signature in gold in time to celebrate the 25th year of Jimi’s memorial. Well, after we got our rights back we did a deal with Fender and we worked with them for a while and then, well, one thing led to another and we weren’t working with Fender."
Fender have stitched them up!!! They know all about her, and they've just passed her on to the poor chaps at Gibbo-land, "here you go lads, have one on us..."
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This will be an interesting lawsuit
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Janie Hendrix is an arse.
Just because she happens to be the half-sister of a bloke she barely knew, she's rolling in cash but still milking the Jimi Hendrix legacy for every last penny. Even to the extent of getting Gibson to make a piss-poor Strat knockoff. I despair.
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Janie Hendrix is an arse.
And then some.
Anyone read Sharon Lawrence's book, "Jimi Hendrix, TheMan, The Magic, The Truth"?
Highly recommended.
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Saw this at work on my lunch break today. Lame beyond belief.
I knew Janie H was squeezing Jimis legacy for its worth, but this is just so low.
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these are the same guys who sued PRS for copyright infringement on the les paul shape, right?
:roll:
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Absolutely terrible. I really hope it doesn't sell but suspect it will.
Agree with all of the comments about Fenders consistency of quality being a long way ahead of Gibson. A guy I work with turns his nose up at Fender in favour of Gibson. He has no argument to back this up other than "it's a gibson" or "it costs more" :roll:
How many people will there be that buy this and not realise Hendrix played a Fender Strat?
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i might buy one...
or hold out for a Schumaker signature Maclaren.
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what other artists do they have who are known for playing instruments other than gibsons?
the jimmy page gibson danelectro?
the slash gibson mockingbird?
the billy joe armstrong get someone else to play guitar in your band while you just dance around guitar hero controller?
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Unbelievable... :( Look at what she's saying :
“Creating this new guitar is continuing Jimi’s practice of giving back to people. ” said Janie Hendrix, Jimi’s sister and CEO of Authentic Hendrix. “It was our own idea to approach Gibson in the beginning after the positive experiences we’d had with the Flying V’s that they made based on Jimi’s guitar some years back. Our excitement inspired their excitement, and here we are, creating these new branded musical instruments. This is just the tip of the iceberg.”
BURK :x PDT_001 :shock:
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Sad. In epic fashion.
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"this is just the tip of the iceberg".
Great. Just wucking funderful.
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"this is just the tip of the iceberg".
Great. Just wucking funderful.
:lol:
Do you think they'll be able to get someone to market "Jimi Hendrix sleeping pills"?
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there is already vodka - but strangely the family didnt like that
(http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/ABPub/2009/02/18/2008759360.jpg)
not as nice as hendricks gin ;)
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Wave enough endorsement cash at Janie and she'll park Jimi's face on anything, anything you can think of.
Crankcase additive.
Thong panties (up to size XXXXL).
Remedial language training courses.
Feminine hygiene products.
Chinese food.
Air conditioner repair services.
Cat care products.
Pencil sharpeners.
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Can you still get Jimi Hendrix dildos based on the plastercast of the great man's member?
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Thong panties (up to size XXXXL).
My wife has some Seasick Steve pants. It's not great having him stare at you from down there :lol:
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Do the kids these days care as much about Hendrix, maybe someone more up-to-date would have been a good starter pack choice
I think they probably do gwEm, when I started playing guitar it was Hendrix who everybody wanted to play like and it was 1992, not 1969. Up-to-date then was Nirvarna, RHCP and the Stone Roses etc but most kids really into the guitar will find out about Hendrix, then now or whenever.. There were Shredders into only 'modern' styles then and there are kinds into more modern styles now but nearly all still want to play 'Purple Haze' or 'Hey Joe' at Some point.
My point being that Hendrix will always be popular to young guitarists. Why they need artist starter packs at all I don't know!
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I have to take umbridge with shredders being modern
They've all borrowed massively from centuries old violin music!
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Wave enough endorsement cash at Janie and she'll park Jimi's face on anything, anything you can think of.
Crankcase additive.
Thong panties (up to size XXXXL).
Remedial language training courses.
Feminine hygiene products.
Chinese food.
Air conditioner repair services.
Cat care products.
Pencil sharpeners.
:lol:
Also, Zakk wylde is working out deals with tampax and 3M as we speak
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Do the kids these days care as much about Hendrix, maybe someone more up-to-date would have been a good starter pack choice
Great point. I don't think todays youngsters who pick up a guitar has Jimi as one of their favourite players. The might not even know who he is! So I'm guessing the guitars won't sell much and know real guitar player would ever by this guitar, right...?
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the billy joe armstrong get someone else to play guitar in your band while you just dance around guitar hero controller?
Epic pwnage, i take it you watched the VMAs too?
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Gibson doesn't see real players as their customers anymore. they only wanna sell cr@p to collectors and such. Dentists, lawyers etc.
(Edit: if you are adentist or a lawyer, don't take it personally. unless you actually buy that overpriced collectors cr@p.)
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This post isn't going to be popular.
OK, it's a horrendous piece of grave-robbing, bandwagon-jumping, hypocritical nonsense from top to bottom. It's a dick move by Gibson standards, with makes it an ultra-dick move by anyone elses. However...
This looks to be an entry level (or slightly higher) instrument, and there's some remote possibility that Experience Hendrix or whoever have some sneaking smidgeon of regard left that might encourage them to ask Gibson to perhaps run some QC on these, for a change. So you'd be getting a set-necked, double-cut guitar that might not be made of chewing gum and string for not an awful lot of money.
Am I the only one seeing a Squier '51 sized light at the end of the tunnel? This could be the low initial cost mod-and-bodge rocket of the decade.
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I have to take umbridge with shredders being modern
They've all borrowed massively from centuries old violin music!
agreed, that always annoys me too. Just because it's "modern" in popular, mainstream music doesn't mean it's modern. Most shred and neoclassical is just classical music with distorted guitars, with the odd bluesier section chucked in...
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This looks to be an entry level (or slightly higher) instrument, and there's some remote possibility that Experience Hendrix or whoever have some sneaking smidgeon of regard left that might encourage them to ask Gibson to perhaps run some QC on these, for a change. So you'd be getting a set-necked, double-cut guitar that might not be made of chewing gum and string for not an awful lot of money.
Why would Experience Hendrix, or Authentic Hendrix, or whatever-the-$%&# they're called now, have any regard for quality control? :?
The Hendrix "family" are far bigger money-grabbing whores than anyone at Gibson.
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Perhaps naked self-interest might drive them to ensure the name isn't humped into the ground by being eternally hitched to shite?
After all, they have to dine out on that name for the next couple of decades at least.
As an aside, I owned a fender VoodooCaster a while back, and I'm (slightly masochistically) wondering how this thing will compare.
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the billy joe armstrong get someone else to play guitar in your band while you just dance around guitar hero controller?
Epic pwnage, i take it you watched the VMAs too?
Nah didnt see it, i just hate that guy, and that band, and anyone who considers them to be punk.
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Do the kids these days care as much about Hendrix, maybe someone more up-to-date would have been a good starter pack choice
Great point. I don't think todays youngsters who pick up a guitar has Jimi as one of their favourite players. The might not even know who he is! So I'm guessing the guitars won't sell much and know real guitar player would ever by this guitar, right...?
They do. Hendrix is absolutely standard listening for any 13 year old considering picking up a guitar.
Purple Haze/Fire/Voodoo Child, are still among the first songs any guitar teacher shows students.
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Do the kids these days care as much about Hendrix, maybe someone more up-to-date would have been a good starter pack choice
Great point. I don't think todays youngsters who pick up a guitar has Jimi as one of their favourite players. The might not even know who he is! So I'm guessing the guitars won't sell much and know real guitar player would ever by this guitar, right...?
They do. Hendrix is absolutely standard listening for any 13 year old considering picking up a guitar.
Purple Haze/Fire/Voodoo Child, are still among the first songs any guitar teacher shows students.
i didnt try and learn any hendrix till i was 26. but then i never really had a guitar teacher.
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i didnt try and learn any hendrix till i was 26. but then i never really had the right tools for the job (a gibson strat)
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i didnt try and learn any hendrix till i was 26. but then i never really had the right tools for the job (a gibson strat)
bang on!
seeing this guitar has made me look at getting a new guitar again though... just not one of these.
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there is no doubt young guitarists will come across hendrix at some point. but we are not talking about young guitarists here, just potential guitarists. The average 12 year old does not know hendrix
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if they decide to play guitar and go to the shop with their parents they will not be influenced by the hendrix thing, but their parents might be!!
i think i only got into him because of all the guitar magazines i was reading AFTER i had brought my first guitar
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i think i only got into him because of all the guitar magazines i was reading AFTER i had brought my first guitar
Not a bad call here Wez! :D
I only got into Hendrix from showing further interest in "what can you do with this 6 string thing". It was word-of-mouth from peers, media, heavy-rock-discos (! what happened to them?), etc... And all this happened in 1979-80, much nearer to the event (I can remember a load of fuss on the 10th anniversary - I've even got the singles "box-set" somewhere!!)
I started on guitar to accompany my voice, influenced by folk/pop/country stuff. The things that grabbed me shortly after (ELO, Bolan, Queen, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, then Hendrix) came as an extension to what I was already doing.
However, I have since come across, over the years, young folks who are getting interested in playing an instrument because of "rock", and they already know their "history". I've been constantly amazed by teens (or younger) who know about stuff, in depth, that was "old-sh1t" before I started :lol: (I've got one, a nephew, coming round tomorrow - he knows "modern" stuff I've never heard of, sure, but he'll play some riff he's picked up and I'll go "who's that? sounds like xyz..." and he'll go "yeah it's great, isn't it?" - it was barely recognisable Deep Purple last time... I'm half expecting Purple Haze, Little Wing, et al, tomorrow... :lol:)
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This is a hot topic on every guitar forum around the world.
I wonder when the Fender Les Paul will make it's debut.
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Gibson doesn't see real players as their customers anymore. they only wanna sell cr@p to collectors and such. Dentists, lawyers etc.
(Edit: if you are adentist or a lawyer, don't take it personally. unless you actually buy that overpriced collectors cr@p.)
I have long maintained that Gibson is more or less a "lifestyle product" aimed at a similar demographic to Harley-Davidson: guys undergoing a mid-life crisis with disposable cash.
n.b. I am a lawyer, although I am too young for a mid-life crisis. "Perpetual adolescent" is more accurate in my case.
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Harley-Davidson:
Don't get me started on those complete hunks of wrongness. Wrong, just wrong, engines shouldn't jump about like that.
Harley and Gibson can both kiss my (_*_) <-- That's my arse BTW :lol:
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my mum and her new fella just brought a harley - i find it all very amusing!
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Don't get me wrong, I love choppers and each to their own, but as an engineer I look at the engines bouncing about and it makes me sad.
Stlll, if you're the sort of person that likes vibrations up your arse, you can't beat them :lol: ...... Don't tell your mum I said that. My mum and dad used to have one of these each (without the stupid belly pan) http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/002382/
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Perhaps naked self-interest might drive them to ensure the name isn't humped into the ground by being eternally hitched to shitee?
After all, they have to dine out on that name for the next couple of decades at least.
As an aside, I owned a fender VoodooCaster a while back, and I'm (slightly masochistically) wondering how this thing will compare.
I hope you are right, Holmes, but I doubt it.
You would also think that there would be a certain amount of brand fatigue in stamping Jimis posthumous endorsement on any and all products, but I don't see Janie slowing down.
For that matter, if Janie cared about QC, she'd license prduction of the "Jimi guitar" to Fender.
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he he
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/gibson-removes-hendrix-content-from-official-website-221575
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That's really weird and I think the "vanish" without a word is eve weirder! not sure which one is worse to Gibson reputation
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Reading between the lines of the explanations for this, the supposed "no hard feelings" toward Fender, and how they'd done great work in the past, but Gibson were more x, y and z, are we to assume this notion, or something very similar, was pitched to Fender, and they knocked it back for whatever reason?
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Don't get me wrong, I love choppers and each to their own, but as an engineer I look at the engines bouncing about and it makes me sad.
Stlll, if you're the sort of person that likes vibrations up your arse, you can't beat them :lol: ...... Don't tell your mum I said that. My mum and dad used to have one of these each (without the stupid belly pan) http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/002382/
You know whats funny is that we have an luthier here, Bob Johnson of Legra Guitars, who's also an engineer and he also loves to point out all the silly flaws of vintage or traditional gear.
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We can't help it, we think in force diagrams :lol:
For what it's worth, I love vintage bikes and cars...... and the Harley I was taking the piss out of was only a couple of years old and belongs to my mate who builds custom Harleys :P
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Don't get me wrong, I love choppers and each to their own, but as an engineer I look at the engines bouncing about and it makes me sad.
Stlll, if you're the sort of person that likes vibrations up your arse, you can't beat them :lol: ...... Don't tell your mum I said that. My mum and dad used to have one of these each (without the stupid belly pan) http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/002382/
You know whats funny is that we have an luthier here, Bob Johnson of Legra Guitars, who's also an engineer and he also loves to point out all the silly flaws of vintage or traditional gear.
Great, innit?
Being a physicist, its one of the things that lets me get on with him well and understand each other.
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He'll like the design that I'm putting together for my jig. Hopefully I should be able to make an axe to a 0.1mm accuracy.... I keep simplifying the design and hopefully soon I'll simplify it to such an extent that it'll fit in my shed :D
Maybe I should go down for a cup of tea sometime.
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I haven't clicked all the links in the thread but I assume someone's posted this: http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Pianos/Grand/Baldwin-Custom/Jimi-Hendrix.aspx (http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Pianos/Grand/Baldwin-Custom/Jimi-Hendrix.aspx)?
Yeah the man was noted for his furious piano solos...
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He'll like the design that I'm putting together for my jig. Hopefully I should be able to make an axe to a 0.1mm accuracy.... I keep simplifying the design and hopefully soon I'll simplify it to such an extent that it'll fit in my shed :D
Maybe I should go down for a cup of tea sometime.
Interesting.
I wish I had a shed. I have to do all my work in my studio, with bin bags over the electrical stuff.
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just wanted to say...
i might try and get one of these hendrix gibbo strats if they totally cr@p out.
unless they burn them all, i imagine there is a few kicking around somewhere.
maybe owning the guitar based on the worst concept of all time will one day pay me back.
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personally i was actually looking forward to seeing the USA version, they looked a bit more interesting :(
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I haven't clicked all the links in the thread but I assume someone's posted this: http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Pianos/Grand/Baldwin-Custom/Jimi-Hendrix.aspx (http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Pianos/Grand/Baldwin-Custom/Jimi-Hendrix.aspx)?
Yeah the man was noted for his furious piano solos...
ha, also deleted from the site.
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I REALLY want one now they won't be released... (but I would never pay Gibson for it) - Funny how that works :? :lol: :lol:
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I think a idea of a Strat with Jimmy Hendrix brand awesome!!! That signature on the headstock looks cool! But not made by Gibson and not as "start pack"
(http://www2.gibson.com/getdoc/411a812c-77ed-4a98-85ea-13935d8a111a/GPLW-ENJIAWNT1-Finish-Shot-h-jpg.aspx)
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Like Juansolo already posted:
http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/gibson-launches-jimi-hendrix-piano-221720 (http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/gibson-launches-jimi-hendrix-piano-221720)
(http://mos.musicradar.com/images/Product%20News/Tech/Sep09/hendrix-piano-460-100-460-70.jpg)
(http://mos.musicradar.com/images/Product%20News/Tech/Sep09/hendrix-piano-lid-460-100-460-70.jpg)
Proof that the people at Gibson completely lost their mind.
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I'll hold out for the Tom Murphy finished/relic piano
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I think a idea of a Strat with Jimmy Hendrix brand awesome!!! That signature on the headstock looks cool! But not made by Gibson and not as "start pack"
(http://www2.gibson.com/getdoc/411a812c-77ed-4a98-85ea-13935d8a111a/GPLW-ENJIAWNT1-Finish-Shot-h-jpg.aspx)
I thought Fender had already released about 673.5 kinds of "Hendrix" Strats in every "voodoo" or "gypsy" and every other conceivable branding?
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Wow,
That guitar could've actually looked respectable if it wasn't for that stupid reversed bridge pickup! As for piano, well that's why you don't do drugs kids :lol:
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if it wasn't for that stupid reversed bridge pickup!
This is practically necessary a reverse bridge pickup on Hendrix signatures...
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Yeah, I got no problems with a reverse bridge - I've never tried it, but I think I might get used to the tone, if it was good enough for Jimi, etc... :lol:
And think about it... no-one's gonna see it most of the time you're playing!
Years ago I used to have a hot-rails in a strat bridge position. Loved the sound for what I was playing at the time, but HATED what it looked like. One day my girlfriend at the time pointed out they couldn't see it when I was playing... and I was ok after that!
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Robin Trower has used regular Strats with a reverse bridge pickup occasionally. I'd like to try it.
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I have an Irish Tour set with reverse magnet stagger and a reversed slant bridge pickup. I also have a tele with a reverse slant bridge pickup. It is a subtle change unless you reverse the magnet stagger (my tele is the 52 Blackguard set which has flat polepieces). Obviously I have no problem with the look of it!
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Pathetic Gibson... an all time low.