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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Ratrod on September 30, 2009, 11:26:20 AM

Title: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: Ratrod on September 30, 2009, 11:26:20 AM
Squier just released a John 5 signature Tele.

Very cool guitar.

http://www.squierguitars.com/news/index.php?display_article=118 (http://www.squierguitars.com/news/index.php?display_article=118)

http://www.squierguitars.com/products/search.php?partno=0301005506 (http://www.squierguitars.com/products/search.php?partno=0301005506)

(http://www.squierguitars.com/products/prod_images/guitars/0301005506_md.jpg)

Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: Ian Price on September 30, 2009, 12:18:34 PM
I saw one of these in guitar village last week. Looked pretty decent although I must admit that I didn't like the MIM John 5 model. Very odd pickup choices and strange switching system. If I remember correctly it went something like:

Twisted Tele neck
Enforcer bridge

No pick up selector
Two independent volume controls
No tone control
Kill Switch

I also don't like that bridge plate - call me a traditionalist and you'll be about right!
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: AndyR on September 30, 2009, 12:37:18 PM
So, er, no GAS then today Ian? :lol:
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: Philly Q on September 30, 2009, 01:04:37 PM
I do like the black-and-chrome look, not sure about the control layout though.
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: Ian Price on September 30, 2009, 01:07:24 PM
So, er, no GAS then today Ian? :lol:

Only for a strat Andy, only for a strat. Dave was kind enough to send me a link to one that guitars4you have in stock. It's great.

I agree with Philly on the look of this one - black and chrome looks nice.
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: AndyR on September 30, 2009, 01:13:23 PM
In principle, black and chrome is ok for me, but I've yet to see a guitar (including this) where it does it for me...

I'd have big issues with the controls as well - I NEED a tone control, intrinsic part of my playing on any electric. And I don't think the pickups are very pretty to look at personally, and the bridge looks odd... etc

In fact there's so much making this "not one for me", that I only just noticed the coloured headstock!! :lol:
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: Ian Price on September 30, 2009, 01:23:57 PM
I only just noticed the coloured headstock!! :lol:

I don't like this either. I actually prefer the paddle headstcok on the other John 5 models. Very strange seeing that I like traditional stuff on a tele  :?
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: TheIronBeast on September 30, 2009, 01:46:26 PM
I'm not a fan of the John 5 telecasters. I sure would love to have his tele collection though!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPGjhuD2wkE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPGjhuD2wkE)
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: Ian Price on September 30, 2009, 02:47:25 PM
I'm not a fan of the John 5 telecasters. I sure would love to have his tele collection though!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPGjhuD2wkE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPGjhuD2wkE)

I'm assuming that's the link where he shows you his whole vintage collection? Can't check it out as I'm at work  :(. Very, very jealous of him though!
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: Plexi Ken on September 30, 2009, 03:02:58 PM
It's an interesting guitar, I think it's the first bound body Tele from Squire, hope to see more  8)

Oddly the Fender J5's have a large '60s C neck, the Squire has a thin modern C, which seems odd to me. No tone control is just crazy  :? And no (Mr Van Halen) volume isn't tone  :wink:
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: Ian Price on September 30, 2009, 03:14:31 PM
No tone control is just crazy  :? And no (Mr Van Halen) volume isn't tone  :wink:

No tone = no tone.

Total Guitar reviewed the J5 and to my surprise said that after a while they didn't miss having a tone control. I think I would miss it.
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: gwEm on September 30, 2009, 03:16:02 PM
no tone is fine on a humbucker guitar IMO.. looks cool
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: AndyR on September 30, 2009, 03:52:15 PM
Nah, even on humbuckers I want tone controls. That's not saying anyone else is wrong, and I do indeed use the volume in it's "tone" capacity as well, especially on teles, but I've always set my amps up expecting to use both the volume and tone controls on the guitar...

I could get used to a no-tone-control guitar, but it wouldn't be nearly as versatile for me, and I'd have to completely rethink my use of amplifiers... and I'm far too old fer that :lol:
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: Twinfan on September 30, 2009, 04:01:18 PM
I've discovered the tone control more and more recently - they can be really useful, obviously!  :lol:
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: Ratrod on September 30, 2009, 04:01:31 PM
I never needed a tone control on a humbucker guitar. If there's no treble bleed cap on the volume you can roll of some treble with that.
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: Philly Q on September 30, 2009, 04:22:06 PM
In fact there's so much making this "not one for me", that I only just noticed the coloured headstock!! :lol:

And of course that headstock swung it back the other way.... so now you want one!  :P
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: gwEm on September 30, 2009, 04:39:59 PM
Nah, even on humbuckers I want tone controls. That's not saying anyone else is wrong, and I do indeed use the volume in it's "tone" capacity as well, especially on teles, but I've always set my amps up expecting to use both the volume and tone controls on the guitar...

I could get used to a no-tone-control guitar, but it wouldn't be nearly as versatile for me, and I'd have to completely rethink my use of amplifiers... and I'm far too old fer that :lol:

I found it hard to get used to a master volume - this has separate neck and bridge volume, which is kind of cool for me - so touche ;)
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: AndyR on September 30, 2009, 05:43:59 PM
That's actually quite funny gwem - cos what you don't know is that with humbuckers, I want/need the two volumes - and two tones actually :lol: (I felt a little out-of-my-depth on my Explorer when I first got it - only one tone...)

How the hell I switch from master volume to dual volume, I've no idea, but it just feels natural going between fender and gibson.

The only single coil guitar where I feel stuck with master vol and tone is my Danelectro - the bridge and neck are so different, I need two tones, and two vols really (for the middle position). The originals have them, dual-pots, but haven't got round to tracking some down yet...

On this John 5 thing I could get used to the two vols easy... but no tone? :(
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: gingataff on September 30, 2009, 05:50:18 PM
H-H Teles just look wrong to me without a Floyd Rose

;)
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: CaptainDesslock on September 30, 2009, 08:45:23 PM
wait what????

No tone?? NOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The tone control is more important to me than the volume control (which is always at 10 for me) but I'm constantly using the magic tone button, moreso than I ever thought I would.
Title: Re: More Tele GAS inducing content.
Post by: camf on October 02, 2009, 09:32:49 PM
If there is mucho tele love around, I'm selling my Feline Tabby. It's probably the best made guitar I've ever owned but much as I love what Feline do, I just can't make it with tele's... my bad! It is a fab guitar and needs a good home. Let me know if it's of any interest to anyone. Could be willing to trade for the right guitar or amp.

Cheers.

cam