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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Ted 'N' Leo on October 02, 2009, 09:53:33 PM

Title: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: Ted 'N' Leo on October 02, 2009, 09:53:33 PM
...and no! It's not that horrific Janie Hendrix-money-induced-wet-dream, but the Gibson Nighthawk.

http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Designer/Gibson-USA/Nighthawk.aspx

I think it looks quite tasty! 50s neck, P90 in the neck position etc etc. Seems to tick the right boxes!

Opinions?
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: WezV on October 02, 2009, 10:24:37 PM
i have always loved the nighthawks - but that just has none of the features that made it so different to every other gibson in the first place... a nighthawk in shape only.

still nice though ;)
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: camf on October 02, 2009, 10:25:18 PM
Ooh yeah... that looks DIIIIIIIIIRRRRTTTTTY
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: Twinfan on October 02, 2009, 11:27:36 PM
I like that, very nice  :)
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: Philly Q on October 02, 2009, 11:28:32 PM
It's a shame they've taken away some of the features like the angled pickup and trapezoid bridge - but at least it's more customisable I guess.

As someone who finds LPs too bulky and heavy, it's quite appealing..... bloody pricey though.  :(
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: sgmypod on October 02, 2009, 11:46:24 PM
reminds me of the bluesbird
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: WezV on October 02, 2009, 11:49:10 PM
the guild one - yeah, its quite like that... not something you would say of an original design nighthawk
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: sgmypod on October 02, 2009, 11:52:09 PM
(http://www.soundstown.com/photos/GibsonNighthawk01.jpg) I liked the originals
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: camf on October 03, 2009, 12:10:22 AM
Me too with the originals... tried to buy one earlier this year but I thought it was a little bit over priced. Nice guitars though.
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: FernandoDuarte on October 03, 2009, 05:32:10 AM
Well, if I remember right the original was 25.5" scale what took many guys out of the deal... At least here in Brazil, people who bought it was trying to have something that sounded somehow alike a LP without all the weight and they argued about the fender scale...
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: Matt77 on October 03, 2009, 08:55:53 AM
Someone was kind enough to lend me one for 2 weeks when I was in the Middle East a few years ago. I really liked it but the build quality was pretty poor. I thought long and hard about getting Feline to build a Nighthawk for me before I approached them about the Lion. I think they look really great
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: darcym on October 03, 2009, 09:38:49 AM
I thought this model was dead and that Gibson had dropped it for good.
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: _tom_ on October 03, 2009, 10:49:20 AM
Ugly, it just looks like an inbred Les Paul!
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: AndyR on October 03, 2009, 02:47:13 PM
Have to say it, I thinks I agrees with tom...
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: maverickf1jockey on October 03, 2009, 04:07:28 PM
I think it's quite an impressive pisstake that the guitar looks and probably plays nothing like the originals.

There was one of them in a music shop near me with a maple fretboard and clear pickup bobbins that looked quite cool, to me at least. I didn't have the money to splurge on it so I didn't bother giving it a test run, sorry.

From what I could see of it; the one I saw, would likely play something like a modern telecaster with humbuckers.

I want gibson to bring back the superstrat that they did in the '80s (can't remember the name but it looked like a rickenbacker that had been built for some hair metal/shredder - type person.).
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: bucketshred on October 03, 2009, 06:42:28 PM
The new Nighthawk is more of a mix of the original Blueshawk and Nighthawk. Very nice looking guitar. I'd buy one if I wanted something classy looking for a Jazz/Blues gig or something like that.

Paddy
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 03, 2009, 07:56:24 PM

I want gibson to bring back the superstrat that they did in the '80s (can't remember the name but it looked like a rickenbacker that had been built for some hair metal/shredder - type person.).

Like this one :Gibson M3

(http://bohemiq.scali.eu.org/GibsonM3/efaa_1.jpg)

as opposed to the Gibson U2

(http://sp0.fotologs.net/photo/32/15/121/guitarcenter/1183333187_f.jpg)
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: Jonny on October 03, 2009, 08:00:09 PM
I like that bridge.
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: Afghan Dave on October 03, 2009, 08:14:03 PM
(http://www.guitarsite.com/news/images/guitar/em-2fx.jpg)

Epiphone Prophecy EM-2 FX

(http://bavasmusic.com.au/store/images/images_big/prophecy.jpg)

Closest available now
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: MrBump on October 03, 2009, 09:10:12 PM
I never really got the Nighthawk either...  Although it went up in my estimation after appearing on the back of a Joan Osbourne album.  At least, I think it was a Nighthawk...
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: Will on October 03, 2009, 10:53:26 PM
Isn't the new one basically a BFG with strat layout knobs :?

I really do quite like the idea of the original's pickups though, wonder if it would all work out though
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: maverickf1jockey on October 03, 2009, 11:11:23 PM
The M3 is the beast, thanks, Feline and Afghan.

Unfortunately the Epiphone version just doesn't have the same vibe, though I do like the lightning bolt inlays.

Why did they take such an interesting and cool design and spoil it with mild and unnecessary cosmetic changes?

It's not like I have money for new guitars anyway (I still haven't got any further in finishing off the Columbus telecaster I've been working on.
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: WezV on October 04, 2009, 12:11:12 AM
Isn't the new one basically a BFG with strat layout knobs :?

yeah, but what is wrong with that!!  i think this could be a great gibson design if they priced it cheaper.  The things i like about nighthawks are the same reasons it didnt sell.  i think this could work!
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: CaptainDesslock on October 04, 2009, 05:29:59 AM
hmmm......

looks like a bloated les paul, some pepto bismal should cure that!
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: juansolo on October 04, 2009, 09:50:41 AM
i have always loved the nighthawks - but that just has none of the features that made it so different to every other gibson in the first place... a nighthawk in shape only.

still nice though ;)


Absolutely, I completely ballsed up by not buying Marauder's when he sold it. Loved the shape, the pups and the sound.

(http://www.juansolo.demon.co.uk/misc/Nighthawk.jpg)
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: GuiTony on October 04, 2009, 11:31:16 AM
This is mine ...

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_QYdDO5-bV1Y/Ssh4lmRaUGI/AAAAAAAAFNY/RsVJQKEvlAg/s800/IMG_1822.JPG)

I bought it new in the mid-90s. 

The range of sounds is incredible ... everything from powerful rock through to crisp & delicate.  I recently had it attended to by Dr Robert who got rid of the sticky neck problem that had plagued it from day 1, and did a full set-up on it too, so now it plays beautifully too.  Suffering from a bit of orange peel on the front, but it's a Gibson, what do you expect?

And no - that's not an advert, I'm just sharing!
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: CJ on October 04, 2009, 06:28:37 PM
i like the pickup configuration, though i'd want that pickup slanted the other way... what type of music does that suit? i know personally i'd like it the other way to get tighter lows and more rounded highs.
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: camf on October 04, 2009, 09:34:19 PM
Actually... seeing it again today, I think the new one looks good. I always like that pickup config. Still a lot of money though... and I think I'd prefer a Feline.
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: ToneMonkey on October 09, 2009, 11:38:12 AM
Wow, a new LP from Gibson. Just what the world needs  :?

I feel sorry for the horse they've been flogging for the last forty years, it just wont die.  :lol:
Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: Alex on October 09, 2009, 04:22:34 PM
Chambered body???

I don't know, I think this chambering is done way too much by Gibson. There must be some difference between small weight relief holes/larger electronics cavities and this almost semi-hollow construction.

Title: Re: This just re-emerged on the Gibson website...
Post by: WezV on October 09, 2009, 06:06:47 PM
Chambered body???

I don't know, I think this chambering is done way too much by Gibson. There must be some difference between small weight relief holes/larger electronics cavities and this almost semi-hollow construction.



there is a difference... and thats why gibson do some solid, some with weight relief holes and some with large tone chambers.   considering the wood stocks available it makes sense to have these different options that allow them to make the most of what is available

they all affect the sound, but not always in a bad way.   sure, they wont sound  'a proper 58 LP'... but then a modern LP with a solid body wont sound much like 'a proper 58 LP' either