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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: keano on November 08, 2005, 07:36:02 AM

Title: Is this the right FX order and will it kill tone?
Post by: keano on November 08, 2005, 07:36:02 AM

I am thinking of upgrading my FX pedals. In my FX Loop would be Delay, Reverb, Chorus, and GE-7 EQ(solo boost)

In front of amp would be wah, tremolo, vibe, Octaver and Boss tuner.

Is this the correct set up?
Will I lose any tone?

Delay is digitech
Reverb is digitech
Chorus CH-1

Tremolo is Keeley Version
Vibe is Voodoo Lab
Dunlop Wah

Was considering G System but lots of $ and not sure it will sound clean?

Title: Is this the right FX order and will it kill tone?
Post by: jb_from_hell on November 24, 2005, 02:41:16 AM

I'd put the pedals in the loop like this:  chorus, tremelo, vibe, delay, reverb.  In front of the amp, I'd go tuner, wah, ge-7, octave.

Title: Is this the right FX order and will it kill tone?
Post by: Brow on November 24, 2005, 08:44:32 AM

Here's what I'd do in your position

Infront of the amp I'd go:

Octave--Wah--Tuner

In the Loop I'd go:

Chorus--Tremelo--Vibe--Delay--Reverb--Delay--GE7

This not be the 'correct' order, but on 1st impression, it seems ok to me :)

Craig

Title: Is this the right FX order and will it kill tone?
Post by: HJM on November 24, 2005, 08:55:15 AM

deja vu - I'm sure I posted on this a couple of weeks ago...

Is your amp OK with pedals in the loop - you need to be able to adjust send and return levels.

The G System is great - checked one out at the Music Live show. Nice and clear, didn't colour the tone much, just great sounding effects.

Title: Is this the right FX order and will it kill tone?
Post by: Floyd Pepper on November 24, 2005, 12:35:05 PM

This site lists what equipment various bands use.  http://www.guitargeek.com/

It has diagrams showing the effects all wired up.  No idea if the order, or even the pedals are right though.

Title: Is this the right FX order and will it kill tone?
Post by: Skybone on November 24, 2005, 12:40:31 PM

Although there is a "rule of thumb" with pedals (Wah/Dist/OD/Modulation/Delay etc), and although this works well for a lot of people, there's absolutely nothing wrong with experimenting with pedal positioning and using your ears to judge whether it sounds good or not.

On saying that, I think if you were using the GE-7 as an EQ, then it's current position is fine, if you're using it as a booster, then I'd put it last in the chain from guitar to amp. There again, if it works as a booster for you in it's current position, then great.

Experimentation is the key, just don't put any OD/Dist in the loop as I've heard they don't sound very good, or do your power amp any good either.

Title: Is this the right FX order and will it kill tone?
Post by: Floyd Pepper on November 24, 2005, 04:29:44 PM

I've heard that Skybone's order is the "correct" one but, like he say about the graphic, if you use your overdrive as a boot then it'll be overdriving the chorus pedal so you'll get nasty tranny distortion.  

For delay and modulation the order depends what you want - do you want the chorus sound delayed or the delayed sound chorused?  They wont sound the same.

Title: Is this the right FX order and will it kill tone?
Post by: tewboss on November 25, 2005, 06:03:37 PM

I'd agree with these answers, but experimenting can bring new results. I'd heard that Pink Floyd wired up a wah the wrong way round.

If you get a compressor then put that in front of the wah. And Fuzz pedals should go first (not that these apply in the current case).