Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: math2014 on November 08, 2005, 03:24:59 PM
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Hi all,
I got an LC30II and i am very happy with it. But i was thinking of getting extra gain out of it, as well as a different flavor of gain possibly. I ditched the idea of tampering with OD pedals on top of my gain channel as i tried the SD1 and the badmonkey , which didnt impress me for what i was looking for (good ODs though).
I am hovering now over the idea of using a distortion pedal on top of my clean channel in order to create a 3rd gain channel on my amp.
My options
Tonebone Hotbritish
CM PlexiTone
HBE Big D
EHX English Muffin.
High gain? beeing able to palm mute to hell and get screeching pinch harmonics
Also classic marshall stack gain from mild to high gain is mostly desired (my most used setting)
And finally i would appreciate if the pedal could act well in conjunction with my Fulltone Soulbender fuzz. In other words, set the DS (hotbritish?) pedal on mild gain (light breakup) and then slam the Soulbender on top to get Jimmy Page's fuzz tones ala black dog, moby dick etc..
Looking forward to your replies
Yannis
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The most versatile unit on the list is the Big D. However, you should look into a HomeBrew Power Screamer, too. The Big D might be too tweaky for ya.
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Cheers TO,
Does it sound marshalley? ie like the hotbritish? And furthermore, does it sound like an amp through the clean channel?
Do you have any head to head experiences with the above pedals? I would be greatfull for some insight. And sorry for the flood of questions.
I wish i could try them head to head , but NONE is available locally let alone with my amp.
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I wish i could try them head to head , but NONE is available locally let alone with my amp.
You mean, like T H I S?! Mwahahahaha!!!
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Yeah that would do it ;) :shock: :shock: :shock:
thats the best pedal-shop i ve seen in my life
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TO what have i told you about using the photos of my personnal pedal collection!!I mean really.(I wish).
Whats the Power screamer like,i am quite tempted by one.
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Hey Yannis, did you go with the Black Dog's?
What do you reckon?
The PlexiTone is supposed to be a pretty versatile unit, but needs an external power supply (runs at something like 12v but has a captive power lead), as does the ToneBone. Haven't heard anything on the English Muffin, but if TO (and a few others on this forum) like the HBE gear, then it should sound quite good. ;)
I'm running a Vintage RAT, a ZW-44 and a MicroAmp at the moment, but still not happy with my sound. Ever since I tweaked all the EQ settings, the RAT sounds awful (damn that "filter" knob! Otherwise a great pedal), the ZW sounds good, but it's noisy, and there's just something about the MicroAmp I'm not entirely sure about.
What about a TS-9 or TS-808 reissue?
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Whats the Power screamer like,i am quite tempted by one.
The Power Screamer is what the Fulltone OCD wants to be when it grows up.
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I prefer using the HBE BIg D to add colour to an overdriven amp - I'm not sure it's the best OD to marshallize a clean amp - how about the HAO rust driver, good tone and one knob!!
My Wylde OD started quiet..and is getting noisier now :evil:
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Oh dear, the New York boo-teek gear wall again. I could spend months in that shop, trying everything.
Yannis, have you ever thought about the Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor? You'll add 2 channels to your clean channel. It does pretty much what you describe. And you can use it as a booster for the amp's dirty channel too. Vey Marshally tone. It's not for every amp, so I have no idea how it will work on yours but it's worth it to try one out.
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Cheers guys. Wow lots of info.
Now, i havent tried any pedals so far apart from a few mainstream OD pedals (SD1, OS2, BM, DS1)
To be honest, i dont really care to put the new pedal on top of my clean or OD channel. I just want another flavor of distortion, that can do the marshall stack thing, as well as high gain stuff. Ultimately i would like it to be a nice low OD marshall base tone, so that i can slam my Fuzz on top to get Page tones.
I am in Exeter, and unfortunately the variety of pedals here is a joke imho, so i would have to travel to Bath in order to try a BigD, or go back to Greece for xmas in order to try a Plexitone or a Tonebone Hotbritish.
BTW some pricing.
BigD 155quid (UK)
Hotbritish (160quid (Greece)
Plexitone (110quid Greece).
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TO,
Now THAT'S what I call a drool worthy selection!
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yu have to go to greece to try a pedal called 'hotbritish'?!.... this is ridiculous - i'm gonna open a few decent guitar stores. with a custom shop, and amp modification aswell. i'm determined. theres NO good music shops in this entire bloody country i swear...
(...well there must be, but they arent very prominent, and i've never found one...)
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Indy i know it sounds silly, that there are no tonebones were i live... :(
Funny thing is that Greece is slightly cheaper for pedals than the UK and i expected the exact opposite!
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What about the Tonebone Tri-mode? It'll give you 2 more channels :twisted:
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math2014, you don't need to go to Greece to try a Plexitone. You only need to go to Manchester apparently:
http://www.soundsgreatmusic.com/effects/fxpedalDetail.asp?prID=209&sbc=^15^
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I would suggest the Radial pedals, they are quite good along with the Guyatone Metal Monster. There are a wide variety of possibilities in that box. I used it on my Diezel VH4 on the clean channel 1 and it sounds amazing. I stumbled across it as IMO the VH4 was seriously lacking gain. Since acquiring it and messing with it, I have been impressed by the various possibilities of the Guyatone.
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well for 210GBP in the manchester shop i am better off waiting for xmas holidays and the trip to Greece, since the price there is about 155-160GBP.
Has anyone tried the HBE Big D vs the Radial one?
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that link above didnt work too well, but just check out the soundsgreat website...the pedal is £149 :wink:
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Stop kidding yourself and just get the Big D, lol.
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Stop kidding yourself and just get the Big D, lol.
i did mate and it sad 209GBP :o
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Stop kidding yourself and just get the Big D, lol.
i did mate and it sad 209GBP :o
woah...thats a bit much. Its £155 here:
http://www.gntguitars.com/Home_brew.htm
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Stop kidding yourself and just get the Big D, lol.
i did mate and it sad 209GBP :o
woah...thats a bit much. Its £155 here:
http://www.gntguitars.com/Home_brew.htm
oh no, BigD is 155, the tonebone is 210, damn i misquoted, i wanted to say that Tonebone hotbritish is 209GBP at soundsgreat... so its too expensive.
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YO! Make sure u try out the EMMA ReezaFRATzitz DS peddal. At £119 for www.soundsgreatmusic.com its a bargain. I tried it with my IT strat through a Lany LC15 and it sreamed. Definately a high gain marshall-esque sound. IT was sick, im getting one for my DSL 50 on the clean channel :) sweet as boi!
Joe
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check out this link http://www.soundsgreatmusic.com/effects/fxpedalDetail.asp?prID=357&sbc=^15^ for the Emma pedal, the bias knob really works too :)
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I got the BigD eventually, wow the pedal really digged into me... terrific piece of kit!
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Ooh anyone got any clips of the EEMMA thing into a clean valve amp? I'm always lookin for somethin else :lol:
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I got the BigD eventually, wow the pedal really digged into me... terrific piece of kit!
AWESOME!!! I WANT CLIPS PLEASE
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I got the BigD eventually, wow the pedal really digged into me... terrific piece of kit!
AWESOME!!! I WANT CLIPS PLEASE
Its like 10 pedals in one + a booster!
I am trying to find an easy and cheap way of recording man, i only got a laptop around
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ah, fair enough - i know that feeling! I guess yu'll be recommending it then by the sounds of things? i'd really like one actually. You wouldn't believe how much Ben preaches about it's greatness on the forum, AND on MSN. It's like he's being endorsed by them!.....o wait.....he is :roll: lucky lucky boy :P
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Ooh anyone got any clips of the EEMMA thing into a clean valve amp? I'm always lookin for somethin else :lol:
Mr Brow, Paging Mr Brow ...
He's got one one of those in his ENORMOUS pedal board! And he has a killer recording rig!
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ah, fair enough - i know that feeling! I guess yu'll be recommending it then by the sounds of things? i'd really like one actually. You wouldn't believe how much Ben preaches about it's greatness on the forum, AND on MSN. It's like he's being endorsed by them!.....o wait.....he is :roll: lucky lucky boy :P
Endorsing them or not, what he and Joel told me, is what i heard on the pedal, so i heard it and bought it, it was money well spent imho.
A few things i noticed.
1. Works with both clean and OD channels
2. It is super silent (no hiss)
3. You can still hear your amp through the clean channel with some added mid-range growl and tightness
4. All positions on the 5-way switch give you usable and VERY good tones.
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hmm, iintersting, i have that same amp but i'm happy enough with the level of gain on it. are you into higher-gain music i take it?
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I wish i could try them head to head , but NONE is available locally let alone with my amp.
You mean, like T H I S?! Mwahahahaha!!!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/Brow%20in%20NYC/30thSt6.jpg)
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Thank you for that pic!!!! now i know, how heaven looks like!!!!
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Stop torturing me with that pic! :evil: