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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: MDV on October 10, 2009, 11:33:37 AM

Title: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: MDV on October 10, 2009, 11:33:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2cytCbAK4A&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: MDV on October 10, 2009, 11:54:59 AM
Oh, and its is hideous. thats not open for debate!
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: WezV on October 10, 2009, 12:02:48 PM
odd - definately.

i dont see much innovation going on.  the extra room for bending  will help with some things just as much as it hinders other styles... so i reckon a standard neck is still the better choice over this

so its based on the idea its easier for the human hand to pull the strings down than push them up... but doing either is well within the capabilities of the average human hand so unless you actually had strength/health issues in your fretting hand its a non-issue
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Post by: Dmoney on October 10, 2009, 12:09:26 PM
that can't image that neck being good for some styles. like if you just wanna thrash power chords out its gonna be weird sliding up that fella having you hand forced round, or opened up as you go. meh.
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Post by: badgermark on October 10, 2009, 12:26:58 PM
I didn't like the way he referred to the first frets as rhythm and the high frets as lead. Seems a bit limiting to me. What If i want to play an octave riff high up the neck? The riff to cherub rock by the smashing pumpkins comes to mind.
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Post by: Will on October 10, 2009, 12:28:37 PM
What happens if you want to use the bridge pickup with the wide bends?
What about if you want to bend on the lower frets? no real advantage I guess
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: MDV on October 10, 2009, 12:30:42 PM
You can bend the high e/b and play notes on adjacent strings though. Something you cant do on a normal guitar.

But I'm very much in the it-takes-away-far-more-than-it-gives camp on this. And yeah, badger, I didnt like that either.
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: Philly Q on October 10, 2009, 12:31:41 PM
I don't buy the argument that it's easier/more natural to pull the strings down rather than push them up.  I've always felt more comfortable and more in-control bending the high strings upwards.  I guess it's a case of what you're used to, though.

The only real innovation is the ability to bend the high E and have the B or G strings still ringing, I'm sure someone could do something interesting with that.  But is it worth the bother?

Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: HTH AMPS on October 10, 2009, 01:03:43 PM
as they would say on Dragons Den - he's created a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: morgasm on October 10, 2009, 01:13:11 PM
 i think its silly. most players like to have the thumb over the neck to bend and surely having that massively wide board would make that difficult, particularly for players with smaller hands. it looks about as wide as a 7 or 8 string, and surely having one or two extra strings brings more possibilities than an enlarged empty fretboard. some interesting things could be done from being able to bend downwards, letting other strings ring and so on but i really don't think it justifies the sacrifice in playability. the body shape looks a bit like a parker fly...
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: choucas09 on October 10, 2009, 01:17:59 PM
In one way it excels, easily making the top ten of the world's ugliest guitars.
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Post by: sgmypod on October 10, 2009, 02:01:06 PM
It's a parker..*L*
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: shobet on October 10, 2009, 02:49:20 PM
It's a parker..*L*

It's a parker with a fat arse! However I can see some benefits to having the strings bending away, but on the whole I think we guitarists are a pretty staid bunch and I doubt the company will be in business long.
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Post by: sgmypod on October 10, 2009, 02:57:44 PM
if it was good enough for guitarists 50 years ago it's good enough for me.....bending outwards *L*
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Post by: Jonny on October 10, 2009, 03:50:39 PM
The only thing I like about it is the Baby Grande bridge.

And the fact he reminds me of Russell Crowe.
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: Ratrod on October 10, 2009, 03:51:53 PM
as they would say on Dragons Den - he's created a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.



+1
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: CaptainDesslock on October 10, 2009, 04:21:35 PM
"well the deductive answer to our theorem of harmonic resonance harmonizing through the central part of the guitars exothermic core would indicate I am mumbling much bullshitee."
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: mecca777 on October 10, 2009, 04:50:07 PM
Why not increase the neck on both sides so that guitarists are free to explore the limitless new possibilities of bending the low strings out from the centre instead of pulling them down, while we're at it? Or why not only put the two inner strings on a guitar and use all that amazing free bending space, while the other string rings out below/above the bent note? Or - stop me if this sounds crazy - play a pedal steel, instead of making a bulky and expensive guitar neck that lets you play a couple of extra "pedal-steel-type" licks?  :?

On the other hand, you could modify one of those things with an extra monorail bridge saddle and a spare tuner and have an extra high string that's only on the "lead" end of the fretboard. See? I'm innovating too! :D
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: Matt77 on October 10, 2009, 06:20:17 PM
cr@p idea
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: Lew on October 10, 2009, 07:30:57 PM
What a load of complete shite
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Post by: WezV on October 10, 2009, 07:35:16 PM
Or - stop me if this sounds crazy - play a pedal steel, instead of making a bulky and expensive guitar neck that lets you play a couple of extra "pedal-steel-type" licks?  :?

that is a crazy idea - pedal steels are quite pricey ;)

but then look how many better solutions there are for pedal style licks on a guitar

http://www.geocities.com/dbalde.geo/dbbigsbypp.html
http://www.rockinger.com/index.php?cat=WG081&product=2405C
http://store.hipshotproducts.com/cart.php?m=product_list&c=11

Not to mention prebending behind the nut :)

and all of them still function as a normal guitar should
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: dave_mc on October 10, 2009, 09:04:28 PM
I don't buy the argument that it's easier/more natural to pull the strings down rather than push them up.  I've always felt more comfortable and more in-control bending the high strings upwards.  I guess it's a case of what you're used to, though.

+1
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: JDC on October 10, 2009, 09:43:42 PM
I don't I want to know how much this guy has invested on this idea, if I really wanted the "advantages" of his guitar I'd get a 7 string, take off the high E and change the 6 remaining strings to E standard
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: MrBump on October 11, 2009, 08:55:34 AM
I don't think much of the idea, because it doesn't make much sense to be, bending one way rather than t'other.

However, I DO like the idea of weird, single purpose guitars, as they can often lead so some cool sounds.  For example, that guitar has a very short scale by the look of it, and I reckon that you could do some SERIOUS string bending on the upper register!  Almost like a sitar.

That could be very cool in the right context.

Mark.
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: Nadz1lla on October 11, 2009, 12:10:59 PM
I gave up watching after 10 seconds. They really need a more charismatic salesman.  :?
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: FernandoDuarte on October 11, 2009, 12:20:12 PM
cr@p idea

+1
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: _tom_ on October 11, 2009, 06:45:31 PM
I don't buy the argument that it's easier/more natural to pull the strings down rather than push them up.  I've always felt more comfortable and more in-control bending the high strings upwards.  I guess it's a case of what you're used to, though.

Same here, I find it much easier to bend upwards. Bending down feels weird.

What a rubbish idea. Nothing wrong with proper guitars!
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: noodleplugerine on October 12, 2009, 08:44:38 PM
Stupidest video I've ever seen.

The guy's annoying as hell too.
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: MDV on October 12, 2009, 09:34:02 PM
The forum has decided!

Its daft.
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: jibidy on October 12, 2009, 09:59:24 PM
as they would say on Dragons Den - he's created a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.



+1


-1 I've had the thought many times of an extended neck for bending downwards. I've even though of just taking the top E off.
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: MartinS on October 14, 2009, 01:30:40 PM
That guy blinks way too much to be trustworthy.
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: WezV on October 14, 2009, 05:52:59 PM
:lol:  the guys an inventor/luthier - give him a break.  he probably doesnt get out much ;)
Title: Re: Odd guitar content, daft novelty or clever and inovative, you decide!
Post by: il˙ti on October 14, 2009, 11:11:54 PM
I don't see how you can knock the playability without having played it. People thought fanned frets were a stupid idea until they played one and realized it doesn't affect the way you play your riffs.

I'm not jumping on it though. It has EMGs.