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Title: Check your recorders, BBC1 tonight!
Post by: hunter on November 01, 2009, 12:02:05 PM

I love the BBC!

22:20–23:20 Fleetwood Mac - Don't Stop
23:20–00:25 Eric Clapton and Steve Winwood Live at Madison Square Garden
Title: Re: Check your recorders, BBC1 tonight!
Post by: shobet on November 01, 2009, 12:16:02 PM
I've seen parts of the Winwood, Clapton gig before, it's a cracker.
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Post by: TheIronBeast on November 01, 2009, 01:00:36 PM
Awesome! I'll be watching the Clapton & Winwood gig. I have the live album which I listen to occassionally on my iPod.

Thanks for letting us know!
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Post by: darcym on November 01, 2009, 08:38:09 PM
got the clapton / winwood gig on my sky + from a few months back. It's great.
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Post by: Johnny Mac on November 01, 2009, 10:44:46 PM
Thanks Hunter, I've set my BT Vision box  :)
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Post by: gwEm on November 01, 2009, 11:45:09 PM
watching a bit of it now. clapton was on rare form that night!
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Post by: Afghan Dave on November 02, 2009, 12:17:13 AM
My God is that performance dull or what...  :? I'm a Clapton fan but I just can't take the plodding coma inducing dullness.  :(
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Post by: Philly Q on November 02, 2009, 12:23:32 AM
I quite enjoyed it - wasn't expecting the Hendrix stuff!
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Post by: Baby Evil on November 02, 2009, 09:45:54 AM
Loved both the FM docu and Clapton Winwood concert.
The latter was very good imo, great selection of tunes, great playing, with my eyes closed I would have sworn it could have been 1970.  Especially the Hendrix stuff was very well done, and that's particulary tricky.

Jan
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Post by: Tellboy on November 02, 2009, 11:47:27 AM
It was better than I expected although I tend to agree with Afghan Dave that it would have been a good idea to wind it up a few gears for a couple of numbers. I would like to see EC play some numbers on his Gibsons instead of relying on the TBX/active mid boost stuff - IMO it's not the same - listen to the Royal Albert Hall Joe Bonamassa DVD, Further on up the Road (JB sound much better than EC IMO).

With Fleetwood Mac -  (1) how tragic that Peter Green tried acid and (2) wasn't Stevie Nicks cute (before she lost half her nose sniffing coke) PDT_030
Title: Re: Check your recorders, BBC1 tonight!
Post by: hunter on November 02, 2009, 02:34:18 PM

I switched Clapton/Winwood off after 20 minutes. It was very tasteful and all, but so boring, no fire. Tastefully boring. It's all too harmonic, the sound too mellow blend in, the notes too pleasant, the vibrato and bends too nice.

Sorry to scratch on a legend here, but Clapton just doesn't have it anymore for me.

 :(
Title: Re: Check your recorders, BBC1 tonight!
Post by: Tellboy on November 02, 2009, 02:40:49 PM

Sorry to scratch on a legend here, but Clapton just doesn't have it anymore for me.

 :(

I used to be his biggest fan but completely agree with you.
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Post by: Philly Q on November 02, 2009, 02:49:22 PM

I switched Clapton/Winwood off after 20 minutes. It was very tasteful and all, but so boring, no fire. Tastefully boring. It's all too harmonic, the sound too mellow blend in, the notes too pleasant, the vibrato and bends too nice.

Sorry to scratch on a legend here, but Clapton just doesn't have it anymore for me.

 :(

Good job you didn't hang around for their version of "Voodoo Child", I found that pretty plodding.  The early part of the show was better, "After Midnight" was a lot more lively than usual I thought.

I've never been a big Clapton fan, but I do enjoy his playing in the live videos I've seen.  And I also like the EC signature/mid boost tone, even though it's not the most dynamic guitar sound in the world.
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Post by: dave_mc on November 02, 2009, 06:20:26 PM
I switched Clapton/Winwood off after 20 minutes. It was very tasteful and all, but so boring, no fire. Tastefully boring. It's all too harmonic, the sound too mellow blend in, the notes too pleasant, the vibrato and bends too nice.

sweet, guess which eejit switched on about halfway through voodoo child. :lol:

i thought it was lacking a bit of fire, maybe, but i still like clapton. I don't have a problem with nice tones and playing.  :?
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Post by: Philly Q on November 02, 2009, 07:54:44 PM
sweet, guess which eejit switched on about halfway through voodoo child. :lol:

It's hard to listen to that song and not think of Hendrix (or SRV) just tearing it up.  It's supposed to sound apocalyptic. 

You can't imagine Clapton or Winwood "standing up next to a mountain, and chopping it down with the edge of their hands".  Chopping bean sprouts maybe.  :|
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Post by: Ian Price on November 02, 2009, 08:05:24 PM
 :)

I do think Clapton has got a bit polite in his playing over the years. The Cream reunion concert is a classic example of this. I did however really enjoy his Robert Johnson documentary thing.
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Post by: Afghan Dave on November 02, 2009, 08:05:53 PM
Voodoo child dragged along in a way I could never have imagined...

Little Wing had none of the magic touch I've always loved.

I'd recommend giving them both some dirty cocaine or at the very least some Sanatogen to pep-em up before I'd sit and listen again.

I love EC when he has even a little "bit" of fire  :? He's not too old - Buddy Guy still gives it 100%
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Post by: shobet on November 02, 2009, 09:49:27 PM
You can't imagine Clapton or Winwood "standing up next to a mountain, and chopping it down with the edge of their hands".  Chopping bean sprouts maybe.  :|

More like shooting it down with their expensive Purdey shotguns whilst out grouse shooting.
Title: Re: Check your recorders, BBC1 tonight!
Post by: dave_mc on November 02, 2009, 11:32:14 PM
sweet, guess which eejit switched on about halfway through voodoo child. :lol:

It's hard to listen to that song and not think of Hendrix (or SRV) just tearing it up.  It's supposed to sound apocalyptic. 

You can't imagine Clapton or Winwood "standing up next to a mountain, and chopping it down with the edge of their hands".  Chopping bean sprouts maybe.  :|

hehe, yeah, i know.
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Post by: Tellboy on November 03, 2009, 10:09:50 AM
I'd recommend giving them both some dirty cocaine or at the very least some Sanatogen to pep-em up before I'd sit and listen again.

That's what probably f***ed him up in the 1970s...well perhaps not the Sanatogen.

Clapton was at his best when he was trying to establish and proove himself. Once he had achieved 'God' status and had money/drugs etc. he definitely lost an edge from his playing. Also as has been mentioned in another thread when he was in Cream he had to work with two talented musicians and couldn't afford to sit on his arse like he sometimes seems to do now.

I read recently that Jim Marshall still has a letter from Clapton in the 60's apologising that he had fallen behind on his HP payments on his Marshall amp
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Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 03, 2009, 10:45:59 AM
The Fleetwood Mac programme was great (it was supposed to be about the Buckingham/Nicks era so I'll let them off for skimping on Peter Green content)

Both videos are still available to watch on the bbc iplayer on the web
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Post by: choucas09 on November 07, 2009, 04:47:17 PM
I didn't see the Clapton/winwood gig so I can't comment on that, but I can't agree with the consensus on his playing post Cream. Admittedly he went through quite a long lean patch, but I think his straight ahead blues playing actually got better post 80's. Example below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxTWQD91b5c
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Post by: 38thBeatle on November 07, 2009, 05:51:36 PM
I watched the Clapton/Winwood gig and enjoyed it but then I don't expect a man in his sixties to play with the fire of a guy in his twenties.
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Post by: gwEm on November 08, 2009, 12:37:34 PM
The early part of the show was better, "After Midnight" was a lot more lively than usual I thought.
+1
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Post by: Tellboy on November 08, 2009, 04:18:26 PM
I watched the Clapton/Winwood gig and enjoyed it but then I don't expect a man in his sixties to play with the fire of a guy in his twenties.

I don't think that it's an age related thing - I think he changed to his present style of playing well before he left his 20s. I know there are legions of fans who love his later music/style - many of these are not aware of (or would probably not like ) his earlier stuff.

P.S. Pipe and slippers are not mandatory when you leave your 20's  :lol: :lol:
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Post by: Tellboy on August 20, 2010, 09:50:29 AM
Sorry to resurrect this post after 9 months but I just happened to listen to a couple of early John Mayall tracks which reminded me why I was such a big Clapton fan in his early years.

These solos seemed to have so much fire in them compared to his later work. By todays standards they are nothing special but when they were recorded (around 1966 when he was 20/21) they were ground breaking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECu22gc_9bI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECu22gc_9bI) (Key to Love - John Mayall)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOmMs50m0nA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOmMs50m0nA) (Double Crossing Time - John Mayall)
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Post by: Lew on August 20, 2010, 03:58:57 PM

Sorry to scratch on a legend here, but Clapton just doesn't have it anymore for me.

 :(

That's hardly a revelation! People have been saying that since 1970 :-p