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Title: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: tomm on November 11, 2009, 02:28:27 PM
hi everybody,
i want help to choose one of this two pickups.i want a  bridge p.u. that can gives me a raw distorted sound (ala white stripes,queen of the stone age,RATM) but that i can split,and have a clean twangy sound.Can a mississipi queen gives me a strong overdrived tone(can i be able to make good pitch harmonics,or harmonics behind the nut) or can a nailbomb gives me a clean twangy sound(i can split it too),and be not too metal when i overdrived it?
sorry for my very bad english.

my guitar is a schecter pt (ash bosy,25,5 scale lenght,split coil)
amp: fender deluxe reverb,or engl  screamer 50w

Thank you
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: Twinfan on November 11, 2009, 03:42:53 PM
Hi  :)

I think you would like a Mississippi Queen with a coil 'tap'.  You would use the full pickup for heavy overdrive sounds, then use the tap (basically a weaker version of the same pickup) for your cleaner sounds.

I think that would be great!
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: tomm on November 11, 2009, 06:38:53 PM
thank you for the replay...so do you think that the MQ is hot enough to give me  rude and heavy(but not metal) distorsion?
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: Mr. Air on November 11, 2009, 07:27:43 PM
I got a semi hollow 335 style guitar with Mississippi Queens in and it produces some nice distortion. You can check out the following thread to get a sound sample. http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=18151.0
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: tomm on November 11, 2009, 08:30:35 PM
thank u..you have a nailbob too,aren't you?...what are the major differences when it is distorted?can you do pitch harmonics with a missisipi queen?can it make a thick distortion?
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: Twinfan on November 11, 2009, 08:46:59 PM
The Mississippi Queen can get VERY thick if you want it to, and rude  :)  Mine certainly was!

I haven't owned one, but I would imagine the Nailbomb would be smoother?
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: badgermark on November 11, 2009, 11:10:24 PM
I can get pinched harmonics and a fat sleezy distorted sound out of my tele with mississippi queens. That's using a crunchbox distortion pedal and my tiny terror mind. It sounds massive.
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: Mr. Air on November 12, 2009, 05:20:00 AM
thank u..you have a nailbob too,aren't you?...what are the major differences when it is distorted?can you do pitch harmonics with a missisipi queen?can it make a thick distortion?

I got a nailbomb too that's correct, but I haven't had it for that long and haven't played it much so I can't really comment on it. Sorry.  :(
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: tomm on November 12, 2009, 11:06:00 AM
I can get pinched harmonics and a fat sleezy distorted sound out of my tele with mississippi queens. That's using a crunchbox distortion pedal and my tiny terror mind. It sounds massive.

Thank u...do you have some samples ?What type of tele do u have?

Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: badgermark on November 12, 2009, 05:21:20 PM
I can get pinched harmonics and a fat sleezy distorted sound out of my tele with mississippi queens. That's using a crunchbox distortion pedal and my tiny terror mind. It sounds massive.

Thank u...do you have some samples ?What type of tele do u have?



No samples right now and it's in a 72 telecaster deluxe RI. Alder body and maple neck. I love the MQs so much I'm very tempted to swap my other set in my les paul into my SG.
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: Mr. Air on November 12, 2009, 07:31:12 PM
Hey Mark

How are the MQs in a Les Paul?
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: badgermark on November 12, 2009, 07:57:33 PM
Hey Mark

How are the MQs in a Les Paul?

funny you should ask, I've just finished moving them from my LP into my SG. They sounded huge in the les paul, very balanced but thick.
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: tomm on November 12, 2009, 09:04:22 PM
last question...can you tell,if you know, what are the major differents between mq and a seymour duncan jb(sh-4)?
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: dheim on November 12, 2009, 11:54:14 PM
last question...can you tell,if you know, what are the major differents between mq and a seymour duncan jb(sh-4)?

well, the jb is an humbucker, the MQ is an oversized single coil, so they're completely different in every aspect! think of three stratocasters playing together and you'll get an idea... :) warmer and bigger than a single coil, it can handle really raw distortions as well as bluesy saturated tones and sparkling cleans.
the Nailbomb is much more similar to the JB, but it sounds a lot richer... hi-mids are more pronounced and the lead tone is the best i've ever heard in my life. it's hard to explain exactly why, but if you are a lead guitarist you can hardly get a better tone. expressive, dynamic, singing in the most literal way, bright but deep at the same time. it sounds like a JB put off the wooden box it was trapped into.

a great set could be NB bridge + MQ neck.
Muse's frontman Bellamy uses it on most guitars, and even if you don't like Muse it's very versatile and surely will give you a wide range of great rock tones. even if you don't push yourself into those metal territories Nailbomb belongs...
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: tomm on November 13, 2009, 11:39:28 AM
well, the jb is an humbucker, the MQ is an oversized single coil, so they're completely different in every aspect! think of three stratocasters playing together and you'll get an idea... :) warmer and bigger than a single coil, it can handle really raw distortions as well as bluesy saturated tones and sparkling cleans.
the Nailbomb is much more similar to the JB, but it sounds a lot richer... hi-mids are more pronounced and the lead tone is the best i've ever heard in my life. it's hard to explain exactly why, but if you are a lead guitarist you can hardly get a better tone. expressive, dynamic, singing in the most literal way, bright but deep at the same time. it sounds like a JB put off the wooden box it was trapped into.
a great set could be NB bridge + MQ neck.
Muse's frontman Bellamy uses it on most guitars, and even if you don't like Muse it's very versatile and surely will give you a wide range of great rock tones. even if you don't push yourself into those metal territories Nailbomb belongs...
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 great answer...but i want put a fernandes sustainer in the neck(yes,i'm matt bellamy fan too lol)...so i can't really choose between the mq and the nailbomb
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: tomm on November 13, 2009, 02:46:06 PM
or...what about a pig90(humbucker sized) and mq?is the pig90 too much for me?is possible to make a p90 nailbomb(humbucker sized as the mq)?
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: Mr. Air on November 13, 2009, 03:00:46 PM
Quote
great answer...but i want put a fernandes sustainer in the neck(yes,i'm matt bellamy fan too lol)...so i can't really choose between the mq and the nailbomb

As far as I know you can get a sustainer system to throw in with any pickups. So it's possible to have a sustainer and two BKPs. I also think that Bellamy uses Mississippi Queens in most of his guitars and only one or two has the Nailbomb/Mississippi Queen combo. I might be wrong though...

Recently there was a pickup thread where a guy wanted a Bellamy setup as well and he found a link to a site that was quite detailed about Bellamy's guitars.
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: dheim on November 13, 2009, 06:15:42 PM
or...what about a pig90(humbucker sized) and mq?is the pig90 too much for me?is possible to make a p90 nailbomb(humbucker sized as the mq)?

the pig90 is ah high output beast... i've got one in neck position and it's thick and hot as hell... quite dark. i've got no personal experience about the pig90 in bridge position but i IMAGINE it has got a killer tone too...
as regards the second part of your question i think you haven't got it well...  :P pig90 is an overwound p90. you can get p90s in p90 housing OR in humbucker size. that's the MQ.
so a nailbomb sized as a MQ is substantially a nailbomb...
if you meant if it's possible to have an MQ wound to match a nailbomb in output, why not? just ask Tim, he'll do it for you.
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: tomm on November 14, 2009, 09:00:55 AM
i was thinking about a p90ish nailbomb hehe...but yeh...a mq with the nailbomb output should  be coll..about the matt bellamy setup,i don't think it's possible to keep two bkp and have a sustainer too....look at the musewiki site...in the gear-manson guitar page...he has two or three guitars with sustainer and he has the nailbomb in the bridge...
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: Mr. Air on November 14, 2009, 09:08:34 AM
i was thinking about a p90ish nailbomb hehe...but yeh...a mq with the nailbomb output should  be coll..about the matt bellamy setup,i don't think it's possible to keep two bkp and have a sustainer too....look at the musewiki site...in the gear-manson guitar page...he has two or three guitars with sustainer and he has the nailbomb in the bridge...

I'm quite sure i visited a website a week ago where you could by a sustainer kit to throw in your guitar and not needing a special pickup. I have just looked for it, but couldn't find it  :?

I might be wrong on the nailbomb issue  :)
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: tomm on November 14, 2009, 10:00:07 AM
this is the kit.i don' know if you must use the fernandes humbucker/single coil.....
http://www.fernandesguitars.com/sustainer/sustainer-kits.html

in this matt bellamy's guitar he has two p 90 and the sustainer...but the sustainer is "alone"
http://www.musewiki.org/007_Manson

in this guitar he has the nailbomb and the sustainer...but the single coil,is the fernandes single coil
http://www.musewiki.org/Red_Glitter_Manson

so i really don't know
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: dheim on November 14, 2009, 05:32:11 PM
i was thinking about a p90ish nailbomb hehe...but yeh...a mq with the nailbomb output should  be coll..about the matt bellamy setup,i don't think it's possible to keep two bkp and have a sustainer too....look at the musewiki site...in the gear-manson guitar page...he has two or three guitars with sustainer and he has the nailbomb in the bridge...

I'm quite sure i visited a website a week ago where you could by a sustainer kit to throw in your guitar and not needing a special pickup. I have just looked for it, but couldn't find it  :?

I might be wrong on the nailbomb issue  :)

i don't think you're right... i looked for something like that for AGES and i realized it simply can't be done.
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: tomm on November 14, 2009, 06:37:01 PM
so you only can use their pickups as a drivers?
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: Mr. Air on November 15, 2009, 03:41:56 PM
I'm almost 100% possitive that a saw a website where they sold the sustainer system and said that now you didn't need any specail pickups, but could have it work in any guitar. But maybe I got it all wrong (like the Nailbombs  :lol:)
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: dheim on November 15, 2009, 06:34:21 PM
I'm almost 100% possitive that a saw a website where they sold the sustainer system and said that now you didn't need any specail pickups, but could have it work in any guitar. But maybe I got it all wrong (like the Nailbombs  :lol:)

it would be great but 1) i couldn't find any trace of this system on fernandes website 2) i'm not sure of what could happer to a regular neck pickup when used as a driver, with current flowing through it... wanna try on some BKP? :)
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: tomm on November 15, 2009, 06:55:04 PM
I'm almost 100% possitive that a saw a website where they sold the sustainer system and said that now you didn't need any specail pickups, but could have it work in any guitar. But maybe I got it all wrong (like the Nailbombs  :lol:)

Are you sure that is a fernandes sustainer? maybe a sustainiac or a e-bow...but they are different
Title: Re: Help me,please. Nailnomb or Missisipi Queen
Post by: Mr. Air on November 15, 2009, 07:42:00 PM
I'm almost 100% possitive that a saw a website where they sold the sustainer system and said that now you didn't need any specail pickups, but could have it work in any guitar. But maybe I got it all wrong (like the Nailbombs  :lol:)

Are you sure that is a fernandes sustainer? maybe a sustainiac or a e-bow...but they are different

It wasn't an E-bow for sure. I remember a picture of the electronic parts and some writing that went like: Now you can experience the sustainer without buying a pickup. You can just buy the electronics.

Well like I said earlier. I might be mistaken. Seems very odd that I can't find the website again.