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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: indysmith on November 12, 2005, 11:14:41 AM

Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: indysmith on November 12, 2005, 11:14:41 AM
$190   alder RR body
$193   birdseye maple neck w/matching fretboard
$25   locking nut installed
$170   Floyd Rose
$185   red paint
$48   schaller mini tuners
$1.50   volume knob
$7.75   chrome pickup surround
$3   volume pot
$3   strap buttons

=$826.25
=£474.148

£100   Bare Knuckle Pickups VHII Humbucker, Chrome Covered
£10   Cans of white and black spray paint
£1   Masking tape


474.148+111= £586

it is all very tempting isn't it? What do you think guys? worth doing?  :twisted:
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: nuntius on November 12, 2005, 12:23:12 PM
Given you've stated some prices in dollars, you've missed two large factors out of the price..

Shipping

Customs
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: Ratrod on November 12, 2005, 01:13:29 PM
Add about 25% for shipping and customs.

Looks like a great axe! Do it!
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: willo on November 12, 2005, 02:27:19 PM
where are you planning on getting the parts from?
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: indysmith on November 12, 2005, 02:31:10 PM
yeah the price is gonna rocket after all that stuff isn't it? :P  i calculated it all this morning from warmoth prices. Its probably not actually gonna happen, I just enjoy designing my dream guitars, and figuring how much they're gonna cost - and this one seemed like a bloody good deal - a signature guitar of my two favourite guitarists in one! now yu've all gone and reminded me of reality - yu've spoiled my fun! hang your heads in shame! :twisted:
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: chrisola on November 12, 2005, 02:38:43 PM
looks cool!
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: steve on November 12, 2005, 03:04:30 PM
If you have done your maths and its something you really want to do go for it.I had great fun and learned alot more about the guitar recently when i built my own.All the best.
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: Miracle Man Matt on November 12, 2005, 04:04:10 PM
Dude I reckon you caould at least knock £200 off that

make your own body                                                   =£20
make your own neck (birdseye                                     =£60
I bought an ibanez edge lo-pro and gotoh tuners for       =£120
PAINT AT $185!!!????? get plasticote spray cans             =£20
other ancilliaries lets say                                              =£50
BKP VH11                                                                   =£100

=£ 370???

I built my first guitar when I was 16 and although its not fantastic becasue the neck was a bit thick and I have a cheap FR copy but I still play it as my main guitar.

as long as your an OK woodworker and have a router, jigsaw/bandsaw, drill, cabinetscr@per/spokeshave, plane, angle grinder then your fine.

just my Idea


MMM
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: indysmith on November 12, 2005, 04:34:45 PM
LOL - build my own? nooo way i'm afraid - i wouldn't know scale sizes, where to put the frets, how to put them in, how to carve a neck or how to make a body, how to route anything. to top it all off i have no tools other than saws and screwdrivers, lol. Plus in the end it'd be nowhere near as high quality, it wouldn't have as good hardware, the shape wouldn't be right, it'd feel horrible, and it'd never get used. Warmoth all the way I'm afraid... unless you'd like to teach me how to use the tools to build guitars - i'd LOVE to do that...
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: willo on November 12, 2005, 04:44:16 PM
I came across these guys before Indy, they split off from Warmoth 5 years ago:

http://www.usacustomguitars.com/

the sites a little less overwhelming than the Warmoth beast...
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: Ratrod on November 12, 2005, 05:11:52 PM
Great link Willo. I like their Jazzmaster and Jaguar bodies. I feel GAS coming.

Hmm, Jag with P90's and tune-o fixed bridge? :idea:
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: Miracle Man Matt on November 12, 2005, 05:44:09 PM
Well i started with no knoledge and it turned out ok.  If you build it yourself then the prices I used were for VERY high quality hardware, better than on stock guitars and its alot cheaper, pus who can say they made their own guitar from a plank? 8)

www.projectguitar.com and its accompaning forum are very helpful

It just needs some willing.

I have only made 2 and already people say I should start up a busyness which i might after I come back from Australia, and Im not THAT talented as a woodworker.  


Anyway just a thought.


MMM
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on November 12, 2005, 05:54:08 PM
That looks .... interesting. Actually, pretty cool looking.
I would never build my own guitar, either. I can't afford to do it more than once, so I let the experts do their thing!
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 12, 2005, 05:58:44 PM
Dont forget that there a number of UK makers who can assist with self assembly projects.

We are not so proud that we need to make it all ourselves
On this Forum alone we have myself, Legra guitar and Laz Gagic and a few others as well.

Sometimes a mix of Ebay, luthier and self assembly can work well

Just my £0.02
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 12, 2005, 06:01:30 PM
Quote from: Miracle Man Matt
Dude I reckon you caould at least knock £200 off that

make your own body                                                   =£20
make your own neck (birdseye                                     =£60
I bought an ibanez edge lo-pro and gotoh tuners for       =£120
PAINT AT $185!!!????? get plasticote spray cans             =£20
other ancilliaries lets say                                              =£50
BKP VH11                                                                   =£100

=£ 370???


Wow - where are you buying your body wood - £20!!!!!!
That would be way cheap for a piece of American Red Alder.

Here is another vital ingredient to the mix: (we actually stock this if anyone is interested)
(http://www.melvynhisc--k.com/MYOEGcov.jpg)
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: willo on November 12, 2005, 07:33:57 PM
Quote from: Ratrod
Hmm, Jag with P90's and tune-o fixed bridge? :idea:


Jazzmaster with P90s and a Wilkinson trem  :wink:

Actually, this whole build your own thing sounds remarkably interesting. I just think it is incredibly daunting, to start with a block of wood and say 'Thats going to be a guitar in a few months time'.

Still, its definitely a potential idea. Its reassuring to know that luthiers would help out if in trouble.
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: Davey on November 12, 2005, 07:44:19 PM
i'm sorry.. but that's just...

so not my thing... but frankenrhoads comes to ming LOL.. looks so damn wrong


i say call up some dudes in the UK and get a couple of quotes, then compare to the warmoth
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: Miracle Man Matt on November 13, 2005, 12:42:33 PM
I get my wood from a local timber yard (Yandals).  there isn't so much alder there though, you gotta be quite luck on that, but I prefere other woods anyway such as poplar, maple/birdseye, sepelle.

yea it defininately is a mission, there are times when you hate it (e.g. router catches and destroys a humbucker rout), and times when you love it (the body has just been cut and routed and is starting to look like a proper guitar).

Actually though Ive been very tempted to get some parts made for me as sometimes I don't have some of the tools or patience to do a really top-notch job and Feline guitars have some very reasonable prices for brilliant craftmanship, i don't know about the other two as I havn't researched their stuff yet.

MMM
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: jt on November 13, 2005, 10:53:44 PM
:D where did you get the Stencils or did you design body shapes free hand ?

 :D  8)
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: indysmith on November 13, 2005, 11:04:36 PM
Dude i didn't draw that one, i think davey gave me this link - so thanks man!!! http://www.jcfonline.com/resources/csgen/JCFCustomShop.htm
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: I M Evil on June 24, 2006, 06:11:52 PM
please use another headstock ;)
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: Davey on June 24, 2006, 10:42:41 PM
Quote from: I M Evil
please use another headstock ;)

please use an entirely diferent guitar.. and paintjob, lol
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: Petre on June 25, 2006, 01:44:29 PM
i partially agree with davey here, i think if the neck and headstock matched the body it would look killer, but atm it looks a little ghastly  :? . if u just changed fretboard to ebony and headstock to black or red it would be just fine  :)

Petre
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: Crazy_Joe on June 25, 2006, 10:59:26 PM
That headstock is ugly as!! (in my opinion)
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: Sifu Ben on June 26, 2006, 11:19:05 AM
My source for air dried ash I get off cut boards which would make 3 Dinkys (if you're careful with your cutting) or probably 4 rhoads Vs for  £28!! Big lesson of building though, get them to machine plane it for you  :cry:
 I got a really nice pre-slotted and radiused fingerboard from craft supplies for about £18.
 If you're daunted by the whole neck/trussrod/headstock thing you can always buy a neck and build your own body. A V wouldn't be that stressful to cut by hand really, and requires no contouring, so the only tools you'd need are a router and a drill press (both of which you'd probably be able to borrow from someone).
 A good source for cheap parts is www.axesrus.co.uk
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: Sifu Ben on June 26, 2006, 03:09:33 PM
That Jackson Charvel custom generator is the ultimate in time wasting toy!!!!
Not to mention the fact that I now want a blue quilt RR with bengal stencilling and zebra Pups  :twisted:
Title: VH Rhoads Guitar
Post by: deg0ey on June 26, 2006, 03:33:26 PM
Indy: You used to be cool! What the hell is up with that paint job? It looks shitee and a half - especially on a V...

If you are gonna do it, at least pick a paintjob that doesn't make your audience throw up and then go home when you use it in a gig :drink: