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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: MartinS on November 18, 2009, 10:15:52 AM

Title: 335 versus Fender...
Post by: MartinS on November 18, 2009, 10:15:52 AM
While my 335's with The Man, I'm playing our bass player's Mexican Telecaster. OK, the build quality's not the best in the world (for example there's some play in the pickup selector switch and the input jack's a bit wobbly) and it's somewhat body-heavy, but it feels, y'know, nice.

I really like the neck, the extra string tension, the simplicity. And I've got to say I also like the clarity of tone Fenders have.

Maybe time to spec up a Feline Jazzmaster Fender-style thang...
Title: Re: 335 versus Fender...
Post by: tomjackson on November 18, 2009, 10:32:22 AM
Yes you should get a Fenderish guitar.

I have a 335 (Tokai) and a Tele, it's really nice going from one to the other.  Generally take both to gigs, start with the Tele when I'm fresh and feel like fighting for some grunt then plug in the 335 second set and let the Humbuckers do a little of the work for me. 

Title: Re: 335 versus Fender...
Post by: Twinfan on November 18, 2009, 10:55:35 AM
I'm loving Fenders more and more, in fact Esquires in particular.  For my next gig in December I'll be taking my Fender Esquire and my custom built La Cabronita as a backup - two single pickup guitars, nice and simple.

In a two guitar band, and in my opinion, you need one Fender and one Gibson to balance the tones out.  Works well for us in Doppelganger!
Title: Re: 335 versus Fender...
Post by: MartinS on November 18, 2009, 11:02:53 AM
I'm loving Fenders more and more, in fact Esquires in particular.  For my next gig in December I'll be taking my Fender Esquire and my custom built La Cabronita as a backup - two single pickup guitars, nice and simple.

In a two guitar band, and in my opinion, you need one Fender and one Gibson to balance the tones out.  Works well for us in Doppelganger!

This is a good point, actually. Our other guitarist plays a Thinline, and I think it's important to have two different sounds.
Title: Re: 335 versus Fender...
Post by: 38thBeatle on November 18, 2009, 11:10:22 AM
Two great guitars to do the same job differently. I love 335's but also love Teles( and Strats) and I like the contrasts between them. I don't have a semi ( yet) but if I did I am not sure how I'd get on at a gig with one...but I'd have a bloody good time finding out.
Title: Re: 335 versus Fender...
Post by: MartinS on November 18, 2009, 11:49:31 AM
Twinfan - see you have a Fano JM6; sure nice-looking guitars. How do you find it?
Title: Re: 335 versus Fender...
Post by: Twinfan on November 18, 2009, 12:04:44 PM
Twinfan - see you have a Fano JM6; sure nice-looking guitars. How do you find it?

It's really nice, I like it a lot.  Mine is the Lake Placid Blue one below.

It's a very versatile guitar, but it really excels in a "bluesy classic rock" context.  It's quite thick sounding, due to the P90s, but it's still bright and articulate.  The body shape is really comfy and it looks cool slung low, where I like 'em  ;)  Unlike a Strat or a PRS doublecut, which don't quite work in a rock and roll stance!

It got a slightly lukewarm response at the BKP meet in London a few months ago, as it was primarily metal guys who were there, but there are a couple of people on here who like it  ;)

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/jm6lakeplacidblue.jpg)
Title: Re: 335 versus Fender...
Post by: MartinS on November 18, 2009, 12:11:52 PM
Nice! I like the ageing on these guitars.

I'm not into high gain stuff. I like clean/breakup territory, with some power valve responsiveness. And a little feedback now and then.  8)
Title: Re: 335 versus Fender...
Post by: Twinfan on November 18, 2009, 12:19:24 PM
In which case, you'd love it!
Title: Re: 335 versus Fender...
Post by: Philly Q on November 18, 2009, 12:19:38 PM
It got a slightly lukewarm response at the BKP meet in London a few months ago, as it was primarily metal guys who were there, but there are a couple of people on here who like it  ;)

Me, me!  :wink:  I thought it was the coolest guitar anyone brought to the meet.

I see Sounds Great have an awesome looking Rustbucket SP6 in stock now.  If only they weren't so expensive.

http://www.soundsgreatmusic.com/electric_guitars/guitardetail.asp?prID=5719&pk= (http://www.soundsgreatmusic.com/electric_guitars/guitardetail.asp?prID=5719&pk=)

Title: Re: 335 versus Fender...
Post by: blue on November 18, 2009, 12:33:35 PM
hmm, i think twinfan's fano is nice, but very overpriced.  and i just don't get the relic thing.  yes, old slightly battered guitars look great, but making a new one that way just seems, pointless.  except that someone will buy it!

sorry Philly, but i think that rustbucket is utterly hideous!  but, eye of the beholder and all that :)
Title: Re: 335 versus Fender...
Post by: TheIronBeast on November 18, 2009, 12:37:34 PM
I like the look of Fanos too, I would love to try one out sometime but other than Sounds Great I haven't seen any for sale in the UK.

On topic though, I play mainly Fenders and Fender style guitars. I love Strats and Esquires, my main gigging guitar is a Strat and I used to also play a Fender MIM Esquire which I regret selling because it was a very cool guitar, but I do have my WV Celtic Esquire in the works, can't wait for it to be finished so I can take an Esquire out gigging with me again.
Title: Re: 335 versus Fender...
Post by: Philly Q on November 18, 2009, 12:40:56 PM
sorry Philly, but i think that rustbucket is utterly hideous!  but, eye of the beholder and all that :)

No offence taken!  :D

And yeah, eye of the beholder as you say.  I know you like your Gibson MIIIs  - so do I, as it happens, but many wouldn't.  I mean, there are actually people out there who think blingy, pointy, flame-topped Ibanez superstrats look attractive!  :P
Title: Re: 335 versus Fender...
Post by: Twinfan on November 18, 2009, 12:44:18 PM
I've seen the rustbucket in the flesh and wasn't impressed.

But then again, it wasn't blue  ;)
Title: Re: 335 versus Fender...
Post by: blue on November 18, 2009, 12:59:51 PM
Philly, i do indeed like my MIII's! :)  and they kinda relate to this thread, since they're a sort of Gibson/Fender hybrid.  like Twinfan, i've found myself moving away from humbuckers and shorter scales to fender type guitars.  and of course i have his classic vibe esquire!  it sounds great through a Marshall, can go from agressive to sweet with a change of pick attack.  but then i got my 1970 Les Paul, and i'm falling back in love with that sound again.

i think the fendery clarity and attack is a more involved sound, if that makes sense, it has more personality and of course it suits lower gain tones.  but the girth and thump of a good humbucker is necessary now and again!  it's already been said here, in a two guitar band one of each is a great combination.

ramble ramble ramble... ;)
Title: Re: 335 versus Fender...
Post by: AndyR on November 18, 2009, 01:04:41 PM
That rustbucket is quite cute Philly - but I can't help thinking "what wood rusts?!" though :lol: - I see what they're going for, but...

I half agree with blue: I wouldn't say they're overpriced, but they're too rich for me :D

I can almost say "I don't get the relic thing" as well... except I do, I've got one :lol: (Roadworn 60s strat).

All I can say is that once I played it, I had to have it. I had to get over some of the relicking - notably the arm wear, I was happy with the dings, but the "arm wear" on relic strats, same as on the CS ones I've looked at, seems contrived to me. I'm sure there must be old strats out there with this arm-wear, but all the old ones I've ever seen have either got dings and the odd chip, or the finish has collapsed and flaked off in big chunks - no smooth wearing from excessive polishing...

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Yep - you need a Fenderish thing old chap. By the way, Mexican Fenders seem to have dodgy jack sockets, both my Baja tele and Roadworn have, but find a cute one and they are really good value - the socket's replacable :D

I've managed to hold off GASing about a semi, but it might happen one day. I think the thing is, for me, I used to own a reasonable one (one of the first Westone Rainbows that came into the UK in the early 80s), and I've tried others since, and I think I'd want to spend more on a semi than my usual sub-£1K budget for "planks" :lol:

Then add to that, my SG and Explorer are covering all the bases my semi used to, and there's no more space in the living room, and, and... but a fender and a semi are a nice pair to take on stage (I did for almost 10 years).
Title: Re: 335 versus Fender...
Post by: Mr. Air on November 18, 2009, 04:22:11 PM
I like that Fano as well, Twinfan. And metal guitars are not my style at all. I once had an Ibanez RG 320. Oh why oh why did I buy that horrible guitar??? (Guess it was because I was young and knew absolutely nothing about guitars).

I also like the idea of a two guitar band where the players uses different style guitars. In my old band I played my humbucker equiped Godin LG and the other guitar player a Fender strat. It worked out quite well. At least to me  :wink: