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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Afghan Dave on November 19, 2009, 10:33:41 PM

Title: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: Afghan Dave on November 19, 2009, 10:33:41 PM
I'm pretty much GAS'ed out... I don't want to buy any more guitars...

BUT.....

I want a Sea Foam Green tele or strat body to build a project around so much it hurts.... Time is not important but cost is so I don't want to order from Warmoth but buy to a budget locally.


I'd buy the paint and spray it or get it sprayed myself but it has to be accurate and vivid like the first picture below.

The second group picture shows the range of what passes for Sea Foam Green but I think the Fender originals "pop out" with that unique blue/green that is SO special.

HELP!!  :? :(
Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: Twinfan on November 19, 2009, 10:42:10 PM
Do yourself a favour Dave - get yourself a good one from this guy in the US.  The complete guitar, minus pickups and electrics, is $799.  Bargain!  :o

http://www.mjtagedfinishes.com/cart/index.php?categoryID=25&PHPSESSID=f519ffafb2ddb357637770cb4b7a8dda
Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: Ian Price on November 19, 2009, 10:43:56 PM
Cheers Afghan. I now have GAS for a sea foam strat. Lovely!
Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: WezV on November 19, 2009, 10:48:34 PM
that is a bargain, i was browsing the MJT stuff myself the other day and became quite tempted.  The relicing is at least as good as fender's top stuff

my sprayer is currently on a personal mission to be able to provide accurate fender custom colours.  Obviously its an issue of much contriversy because finished age, change, and are often diffierent depending on the mix of the day.  the colour codes are only the beginning


but he has been doing his research and hopes to offer accurate repro colours, he doesnt believe the manc guitar tech ones are close enough.   personally i go for whatever the customer wants and always ask them for an example when they ask for a fender custom colour so i can see what they mean


anyway, might be worth giving him an email to see where he is with sea foam green and what he can offer
http://www.lennonguitars.co.uk/
Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: sgmypod on November 19, 2009, 11:25:07 PM
got to ask what make is the double headed
Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: gingataff on November 19, 2009, 11:58:49 PM
Looks like Hamer to me.
Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: Philly Q on November 20, 2009, 12:00:41 AM
I don't know if this is more accurate than anyone else's info, but it might be interesting if you haven't seen it:

http://www.curtisnovak.com/restorations/FenderColors/index.shtml (http://www.curtisnovak.com/restorations/FenderColors/index.shtml)


(The V and Firebird look awesome, by the way!)

Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: Afghan Dave on November 20, 2009, 12:44:01 AM
Thanks guys...

I've found this which is a very interesting (long) in depth article on the whole subject of Fender Custom Colours

http://www.provide.net/~cfh/fenderc.html

My search seems to be pulling me down a deep and very interesting rabbit hole!!

I think this could get both very obsessive and expensive VERY quickly.
Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: Philly Q on November 20, 2009, 01:35:16 AM
It's an interesting quest, but isn't it likely that the original vintage Fender colours would have varied a bit anyway from batch to batch?  And of course they've aged, so none of us have seen them as they looked when new.

How do you decide exactly what colour you want?
Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: Afghan Dave on November 20, 2009, 01:51:00 AM
This is as close as a photoshop can colour match from that first Strat... :?


Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: Afghan Dave on November 20, 2009, 01:55:00 AM
Sh1T... I could buy a vibrator in Sea Foam but I can't find a Strat body or the friggin' paint in the UK!

(http://www.sextoytesters.co.uk/reviews/mini-seafoam-bullet.jpg)
Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: WezV on November 20, 2009, 07:17:16 AM
I don't know if this is more accurate than anyone else's info, but it might be interesting if you haven't seen it:

http://www.curtisnovak.com/restorations/FenderColors/index.shtml (http://www.curtisnovak.com/restorations/FenderColors/index.shtml)


yeah, i use that quite often to establish what people mean by a certain colour.  The only thing thats important to me is that people get the colour they expect, that is more important to me than vintage accuracy or what the bloody name of the colour is.   A good sprayer will then colour match exactly


daphne blue can be even more fun!!
Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: shobet on November 20, 2009, 08:06:00 AM
I'm pretty much GAS'ed out... I don't want to buy any more guitars...

BUT.....

I want a Sea Foam Green tele or strat body to build a project around so much it hurts.... Time is not important but cost is so I don't want to order from Warmoth but buy to a budget locally.

  • Does anybody know where I can find this colour in the UK?
  • Does anybody know where I can get this colour mixed accurately in the UK?

I'd buy the paint and spray it or get it sprayed myself but it has to be accurate and vivid like the first picture below.

The second group picture shows the range of what passes for Sea Foam Green but I think the Fender originals "pop out" with that unique blue/green that is SO special.

HELP!!  :? :(

Oh that strat! I've made a small sex wee in my pants...

But to be pedantic, I think the group contains guitars in Sea Foam and possibly Surf green
Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: Prawnik on November 20, 2009, 08:38:13 AM
I don't know if this is more accurate than anyone else's info, but it might be interesting if you haven't seen it:

http://www.curtisnovak.com/restorations/FenderColors/index.shtml (http://www.curtisnovak.com/restorations/FenderColors/index.shtml)


yeah, i use that quite often to establish what people mean by a certain colour.  The only thing thats important to me is that people get the colour they expect, that is more important to me than vintage accuracy or what the bloody name of the colour is.   A good sprayer will then colour match exactly


daphne blue can be even more fun!!


Another of the pleasures of old guitar finishes is that they varied a lot, even two guitars of the same model and year, both fresh from the factory.

In part this was because a company such as Fender would acquire paint from different sources. Fender also used different painting techniques, depending on what the production schedule was and the person shooting the paint. Also, production standards then were different.

Then let the guitar sit in a case for decades or be played every night in a steamy, smoky Florida redneck bar and two 1960 Fender Telecasters can both have original blonde finishes that look very different.
Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: Elliot on November 20, 2009, 09:50:25 AM
Here's an American order page for Duco 2253 'Sea Foam' Green

http://www.paintscratch.com/cgi-bin/makepaint2.cgi

and here's a link to the UK supplier of Surf Green that Wez was talking about - Maybe they are not super accurate, but they maybe able to help:

http://www.tonetechluthiersupplies.co.uk/Lacquers-and-Paint/Spray-Paints-and-Lacquers/Solid-Colours/View-all-products.html

Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: Plexi Ken on November 20, 2009, 11:04:07 AM
Lovin' the Firebird I in the group shot, good luck in your quest for the 'perfect' Sea Foam Green  :)
Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: gwEm on November 20, 2009, 11:31:26 AM
I do prefer surf green to sea foam, but both are great colours.

The first picture of the strat in this thread looks as though it might have been colour enhanced.

Think you should go for a tele Afgan!
Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: Philly Q on November 20, 2009, 01:35:24 PM
If you find someone who can do the spraying reasonably cheaply I'd be interested to know. 

I haven't researched very thoroughly, but it seems to cost at least as much as the body/neck itself.
Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: jpfamps on November 20, 2009, 02:34:34 PM
All the Fender green custom colours are very rare, so few people will have seen many real examples. I've never seen a genuine Sea Foam Green 60s Fender guitar.

As pointed out above, the effects of aging will vary the colour somewhat.

Clive Brown is one of the best (if not the best) vintage refinisher operating at the moment. However, if you want it aged be prepared to wait......
Title: Re: Colour codes for Sea Foam Green??
Post by: WezV on November 20, 2009, 04:48:30 PM
alos, its worth noting that the effects of ageing is much more apparent on lighter colours.  those light blues, greens and burgundy mists are where most of the disagreement exists