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Title: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Jonny on November 20, 2009, 08:01:34 PM
Check it out:

http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/gibson-dusk-tiger/

My first response was: "Eh?"

I liked the top finish, then I hated the back, then I thought what is that GODLY hideous scratchplate type thing at the bottom photo. Then I looked back at the top at the pickup surrounds and the switch plate.

UGH!

Also "and all at a more affordable price" will be fun to find out what it is.

"You have a rare wealth of creative potential lurking deep within, but until now no guitar has had the power to fully tap into it. Enter the Dusk Tiger..."

Oh come on..

Here's a full picture on GAK:

http://www.guitarampkeyboard.com/en/84790
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: gwEm on November 20, 2009, 08:17:42 PM
the pickguard is hideous, without that i quite like it
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Philly Q on November 20, 2009, 08:24:45 PM
Quote
"You have a rare wealth of creative potential lurking deep within, but until now no guitar has had the power to fully tap into it. Enter the Dusk Tiger..."

Ah, that's why I've been so utterly shite for 30 years.  Quick, where can I buy one?


Nah, seems like yet another monstrously misguided Gibson gimmick to me.  The "teeth" inlays and mismatched knobs made me laugh out loud, bless 'em.  :lol:
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: 38thBeatle on November 20, 2009, 08:39:06 PM
Not my cup of tea.
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: gwEm on November 20, 2009, 08:39:18 PM
its a sort of reinterpretation of the LP recording I guess..
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: MDV on November 20, 2009, 08:42:21 PM
Gibsons head office must be too close to the jack daniels distilery.
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: dragonfire709 on November 20, 2009, 08:56:03 PM
Why can't they just stick to what they do well??????
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: MDV on November 20, 2009, 08:56:41 PM
Why can't they just stick to what they do well??????

Agile, tokai, edwards and more do it better?
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: dragonfire709 on November 20, 2009, 09:01:26 PM
Good point, though I still lust after a black LP custom.
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: dave_mc on November 20, 2009, 09:07:40 PM
looks a bit weird... :lol:
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Ian Price on November 20, 2009, 09:08:38 PM
Absof*ckinglutely hideous. Signs of desperation at Gibson? Or do they have loads of money to burn on ridiculous stuff.
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: shobet on November 20, 2009, 09:11:50 PM
Got you all talking though haven't they.

It's ugly, but then so am I and I'm shagging an ex-playboy bunny so there!
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: d1dsj on November 20, 2009, 09:17:10 PM
Why can't they just stick to what they do well??????

Agile, tokai, edwards and more do it better?

I've yet to play a Les Paul from any maker than feel better to me than my 2. Yes I've played quite a few... tons infact of Gibson which were at best ok, but then again I've played loads of other makers LP's that were meh too.
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: MDV on November 20, 2009, 09:26:09 PM
Why can't they just stick to what they do well??????

Agile, tokai, edwards and more do it better?

I've yet to play a Les Paul from any maker than feel better to me than my 2. Yes I've played quite a few... tons infact of Gibson which were at best ok, but then again I've played loads of other makers LP's that were meh too.

Playability is a matter of opinion. Its my observation that all the above have more consistent (and on average higher) quality control standards.

I've never played your guitars, so I cant make an assesment based on them ;)
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Philly Q on November 20, 2009, 09:30:03 PM
It's ugly, but then so am I and I'm shagging an ex-playboy bunny so there!

When did she hang up her ears and tail?  1972?  :P
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: shobet on November 20, 2009, 09:56:45 PM
It's ugly, but then so am I and I'm shagging an ex-playboy bunny so there!

When did she hang up her ears and tail?  1972?  :P

I dunno, I make shite up and I have Tourette's. 
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: d1dsj on November 20, 2009, 10:01:30 PM
Why can't they just stick to what they do well??????

Agile, tokai, edwards and more do it better?

I've yet to play a Les Paul from any maker than feel better to me than my 2. Yes I've played quite a few... tons infact of Gibson which were at best ok, but then again I've played loads of other makers LP's that were meh too.

Playability is a matter of opinion. Its my observation that all the above have more consistent (and on average higher) quality control standards.

I've never played your guitars, so I cant make an assesment based on them ;)

Fair point, I will admit whilst I love mine and wouldn't sell them... are they worth 2 x, 3 x or more the cost of the likes of Tokai or Edwards etc? No is my simple answer!  :wink: 
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: MDV on November 20, 2009, 10:16:33 PM
Why can't they just stick to what they do well??????

Agile, tokai, edwards and more do it better?

I've yet to play a Les Paul from any maker than feel better to me than my 2. Yes I've played quite a few... tons infact of Gibson which were at best ok, but then again I've played loads of other makers LP's that were meh too.

Playability is a matter of opinion. Its my observation that all the above have more consistent (and on average higher) quality control standards.

I've never played your guitars, so I cant make an assesment based on them ;)

Fair point, I will admit whilst I love mine and wouldn't sell them... are they worth 2 x, 3 x or more the cost of the likes of Tokai or Edwards etc? No is my simple answer!  :wink: 

That said (to my previous) THE best les paul I've ever played was a gibson. A friend of mine hunted for one for years; hes a very bright chap and not the sort to let himself be fooled into thinking the guitars automatically good by a name, only enchanted (knowingly) by its image and rock heritage, and went hunting for the best LP he could find. 5 years into the hunt he found a few on the same day that were candidates and called me out for a second opinion. Out of those there we chose the same one (he just said "what do you think of these?" and sat there impassively so both our decisions were only influenced by the guitars). It was a kickass guitar, still stands out in my memory as one of the best guitars I've played.

But its the exception to prove the rule, in my experience.

So, yes, I believe completely that you *can* have a couple of kickass gibsons: I've seen it with my own ears. Even to the point where, for that little extra mojo that makes all the difference, one can spend far more on them.

I just think you have a better chance at getting a better guitar, in terms of objective quality measures, with several non-gibsons.
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: CaptainDesslock on November 20, 2009, 11:14:36 PM
is this more innovative than their Little Wing guitar series?
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Afghan Dave on November 20, 2009, 11:53:03 PM
Isn't that fancy wood from Madagascar?

Well it looks shitee to me.. :?
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: gwEm on November 21, 2009, 12:07:08 AM
they could have done something really cool with this:

(http://www.guitarphotographer.com/gibson%20les%20paul/1973-Gibson-Les-Paul-Recording-Natural-Big.jpg)
too bad they made such a mistake with the styling, though somehow if i would see a Dusk Tiger in a shop I would give it a go
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: choucas09 on November 21, 2009, 12:28:12 AM
I'm totally with the above from gwEm. The Recording was not pretty, but so funky.
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: WezV on November 21, 2009, 12:36:34 AM
gwem speaks the truth - thats what they should have done instead of the 52 tribute which lp would have hated
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Will on November 21, 2009, 12:47:04 AM
Make the recording normal sized (looks a bit big to me), Keep the weight in check, and make it rear route, and I think they would stand a chance of making more money than with the Tiger.

For an extra bonus, maybe a flame maple veneer for the bling bunch
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: tomjackson on November 21, 2009, 09:24:19 AM
I Kinda Like it. 

It's a bit like an ugly bird with a nice pair, you still want to take her home but perhaps not parade her in public too much :?
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Jonny on November 21, 2009, 12:40:09 PM
I Kinda Like it. 

It's a bit like an ugly bird with a nice pair, you still want to take her home but perhaps not parade her in public too much :?
That's actually quite a good analogy.
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Philly Q on November 21, 2009, 12:46:07 PM
I Kinda Like it. 

It's a bit like an ugly bird with a nice pair, you still want to take her home but perhaps not parade her in public too much :?
That's actually quite a good analogy.

In a Nuts/Zoo kind of way, eh lads?  :wink:
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: AndyR on November 21, 2009, 01:33:53 PM
I voted "Dislike", but I'm prepared to believe that could change if I saw one in the flesh... (prepared to believe, that is, not actually believing it at the moment! :lol:)
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Davey on November 21, 2009, 02:01:30 PM
Got you all talking though haven't they.

It's ugly, but then so am I and I'm shagging an ex-playboy bunny so there!

depends on if it's a recent one.. or one fro the 50's

about the guitar.. i like the top. i really do.. ditch the 5th fret inlay and the pickup surrounds/scratchplate/selector surround and it would be a pretty.. even if a bit unorthodox LP.. now it's just freakin HIDEOUS
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Jonny on November 21, 2009, 03:40:12 PM
It'll probably be LP Traditional money or even more, and it doesn't even have a top.
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: froglord on November 21, 2009, 05:39:21 PM
"Simply the most astounding innovation in the history of the guitar ..."

... says the most gushing press release in the history of marketing.
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: MisterMuncher on November 21, 2009, 09:04:59 PM
The slightly similar looking "Luna Sol" guitar that's in the sidebar on the GAK page linked there: I do believe, Gibson, that's probably what you may have been aiming for. How come the £350 guitar can nail the aesthetics so well, and the Big Boys can miss so utterly?
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: WezV on November 21, 2009, 10:40:53 PM
i keep seeing the term 'exotic hardwood' associated with this guitar... but what the hell is it!!!   i think i have a few ideas and am not really interested but it seems odd that they are not stating wood type clearly - this being the company that started giving us fancy wood names with the rather nice smartwood series now resort to a generic and meaningless tag.

maybe they imported it illegally and dont want to say the name out loud ;)
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Philly Q on November 21, 2009, 11:11:28 PM
Goncalo Alves maybe?
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Jonny on November 21, 2009, 11:31:40 PM
Goncalo Alves maybe?
It looks close to that, doesn't look exactly like it though, GA looks too smooth.

Someone needs to ring GAK and ask.
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: WezV on November 22, 2009, 12:13:57 AM
thats a distinct possibility.  its also a bit like pale moon ebony but you know damn well gibson would use a name like that in the marketing... and it would cost a lot - possibly even more than a fancy maple top


thats whats confusing me - why not say what they are using???   
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: gwEm on November 22, 2009, 12:54:27 AM
thats a distinct possibility.  its also a bit like pale moon ebony but you know damn well gibson would use a name like that in the marketing... and it would cost a lot - possibly even more than a fancy maple top


thats whats confusing me - why not say what they are using???   

maybe its thin layers of exotic hardwood, loving glued together at 90 degrees to each other for strength and tone ;)
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Will on November 23, 2009, 12:14:01 PM
I think its ahead of its time, we should wait 'til next week to judge it
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Sifu Ben on December 19, 2009, 07:40:26 PM
Spot of necromancy due to the clone thread. Now that a bit of time has passed and there's more pictures available, what do people think? I think now that there's some real photos and video footage available the plate looks nowhere near as bad, and actually is growing on me.
 As someone suggested this is really more the guitar Les Paul wanted than a '58 standard, technology has reached a point where Hi-Fi guitar output is a practical reality.
On the detail front, apparently the top is "marblewood" from Surinam, and it'll be cheaper than an LP custom or Axcess, so really not stupidly expensive.
I think people are being a bit harsh here, this is not the holy V, and they're genuinely trying to do something innovative, which i think they should be applauded for. Guitarists are a notoriously old fashioned bunch, so for a company like Gibson, launching guitars with tons of new technology on board is a bit of a bold move. Most of the "regular" LP buyers wouldn't want the tech anyway, so they can be more experimental with the aesthetics (although everyone slagged off the Darkfire, which was fairly staid, and I thought looked quite good, so they can't win).
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Davey on December 19, 2009, 09:00:11 PM
i still stand by my previous statement .. ditch 5th fret inlay and all that chrome on the body and it'd be cool
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: PhilKing on December 19, 2009, 11:12:08 PM
I saw one in real life last night and it looked horrendous!
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: dheim on December 19, 2009, 11:23:15 PM
i still stand by my previous statement .. ditch 5th fret inlay and all that chrome on the body and it'd be cool

+1.

the dark fire was really cool. they could have done the tiger with a more traditionally shaped, angled chrome pickguard and even chrome rectangular pickup rings and it would have been cool.
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Matt77 on December 20, 2009, 09:40:04 AM
Over 100 reader's comments on Gibson's website and pretty much all slagging it.
My girlfriend said wait until Billy Gibbons buys one; everyone will think it's cool then
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: AndyR on December 20, 2009, 09:50:36 AM
My girlfriend said wait until Billy Gibbons buys one; everyone will think it's cool then

:lol:

These wives and girlfriends can be annoyingly perceptive sometimes!
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Afghan Dave on December 20, 2009, 09:54:21 AM
My girlfriend said wait until Billy Gibbons buys one; everyone will think it's cool then

 What a VERY wise girlfriend you've got there...If I were you I'd be getting worried that every time you argue she "just might" have a point.  :? :lol:
Title: Re: Gibson Dusk Tiger
Post by: Frank on December 20, 2009, 10:06:17 AM
It's not just the DUsk Tiger. I was in a music shop yesterday and the whole Gibson range just looked ... wrong. I don't know what their designers are thinking lately, they're churning out £2000 guitars that look like kiddy toys.