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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: BigB on December 28, 2009, 10:41:27 PM

Title: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: BigB on December 28, 2009, 10:41:27 PM
Woke up this morning (err... actually, wasn't exactly in the morning anymore - but anyway...) and found a surprise (well, wasn't exactly a surprise neither - but anyway...) on the living room table. Yeps, my BGF50's and 4-way switch. Breakfest, a quick shower, and there we go. A couple hours and mistakes (first forgot a jumper, then had a short...) later, restringed the guitar and finally plugged it - not without some anxiety, I have to say... - and...

OMFG !!!

Instant silly grin on my face - couldn't let the axe down for the next 3 hours :mrgreen:

I thought the stock pups where "not that bad". Sorry, I was wrong : they were that bad - and even worse. Or could it be that the BG are that good ?

Tim, I have to apologise. I really doubted when you told me to go for the blackguards flat 50's. I shouldn't have - they are exactly what I really wanted and was unable to properly explain.  I just can't believe how these pups can go from woody, almost acoustic clean to nasty, mean, grinding overdrive to chunky, bity,  yet warm and fluid distortion. These pups ROCK - I just love them, can't say more.

...

Mmm... Yes Fernando, I know : pics or it never happened - so here come the pics :wink:

What's that ? Could it be... ?
(http://alostnet.eu/tele/blackguard/imgp1157.jpg)

Yes, obviously:
(http://alostnet.eu/tele/blackguard/imgp1159.jpg)

Ready, steady, go:
(http://alostnet.eu/tele/blackguard/imgp1160.jpg)

Guts:
(http://alostnet.eu/tele/blackguard/imgp1163.jpg)

One of them looks better:
(http://alostnet.eu/tele/blackguard/imgp1164.jpg)

Finally managed to make it work - now just needs new strings:
(http://alostnet.eu/tele/blackguard/imgp1167.jpg)

Done:
(http://alostnet.eu/tele/blackguard/imgp1169.jpg)


PS : I have to say the 4-way switch is really fine too - not as overpowering as I feared, and really has an interesting bucker-like-yet-still-telecasterish tone. Really cut it for good old BOC riffs (Dominance&Submission anyone ?) I never thought one could play on a single-coiled tele.

 
Title: Re: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: FernandoDuarte on December 28, 2009, 10:53:48 PM
Great that you liked it!!! :D
Title: Re: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: Plexi Ken on December 28, 2009, 11:25:24 PM
This doesn't help my BG GAS one bit  :wink:
Black Tele with white binding, pure class  8)
Title: Re: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: BigB on December 29, 2009, 12:20:28 AM
This doesn't help my BG GAS one bit  :wink:

Mmm... Was just trying to imagine this guitar with its new pups on a cranked plexi. Must... really... ROCK !

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Black Tele with white binding, pure class  8)

Thanks  :)

Truth is, I needed this to match our bass player's B&W Rick with white binding and the singer's black LP with white binding :mrgreen:
Title: Re: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: badgermark on December 29, 2009, 01:28:57 AM
Damn you that is a fine telecaster, and I surely don't need another one. But I want it.

Good stuff on getting the right pickups, i'm sure it's an aural beast.
Title: Re: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: 38thBeatle on December 29, 2009, 09:53:26 AM
It is great to hear that you have found the right set for you. I can see myself getting another Tele just to enable me to try some blaggards one of these days.
Title: Re: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: AndyR on December 29, 2009, 10:02:03 AM
There's something about BG Flat 50s, isn't there? :D

And yes that tele does look sooo good... almost gives me GAS... hang on! I've got one exactly like it already :lol:

(I was just about to get it out of the case actually - it drew the short straw on "which guitar goes away so that we can put the christmas tree up")

You're almost tempting me to get my second set of BGs out of the Japanese 52 and stick em in the 62 - but then the Yardbirds would end up in "the wrong guitar" in my mind (the one that doesn't get used very often...)
Title: Re: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: PhilKing on December 29, 2009, 10:12:52 AM
I have black guards in 2 tele's (62 MIJ and a real 57 tele).  They both sound great, but the set in the 62 is the new 52 wind, which has a different set of windings for both the bridge and the neck.  If it is possible, the new set sounds better than the old set.  The neck is a bit more tele-ish (the regular black guard neck is more strat-ish to my ears).  However, all the black guards series (both flat and staggered pole), sound great.  But then again, they are BK's!
Title: Re: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: horsehead on December 29, 2009, 10:37:44 AM
Blackguards are spot on!

Great guitar BTW
Title: Re: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: BigB on December 29, 2009, 02:37:55 PM
There's something about BG Flat 50s, isn't there? :D

And yes that tele does look sooo good... almost gives me GAS... hang on! I've got one exactly like it already :lol:

 :mrgreen:

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You're almost tempting me to get my second set of BGs out of the Japanese 52 and stick em in the 62

Well, having your opinion about how both sets compare in the same guitar would be rather interesting, indeed. But I'd feel sorry to push you into messing up with your current setup :wink:
Title: Re: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: Ratrod on December 29, 2009, 05:00:27 PM
That's a very classy Tele.

Glad you like the BG's.
Title: Re: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: BigB on December 29, 2009, 05:12:43 PM
Damn you that is a fine telecaster, and I surely don't need another one. But I want it.

Yours (well, at least the white and black custom with MQs) doesn't look bad neither  8)

Title: Re: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: Philly Q on December 29, 2009, 05:36:25 PM
Really cut it for good old BOC riffs (Dominance&Submission anyone ?) I never thought one could play on a single-coiled tele.

Blimey I haven't heard that for years!

The guitar's looking great.  :D
Title: Re: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: BigB on December 29, 2009, 06:25:22 PM
Really cut it for good old BOC riffs (Dominance&Submission anyone ?) I never thought one could play on a single-coiled tele.

Blimey I haven't heard that for years!

One my all-times favs... Killer riff.

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The guitar's looking great.  :D

Thanks.

The good news is that now it also sounds great  :D
Title: Re: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: Andrew W on December 29, 2009, 07:02:13 PM
I'm really pleased this worked out so well for you!
Title: Re: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: badgermark on December 29, 2009, 07:47:47 PM
Damn you that is a fine telecaster, and I surely don't need another one. But I want it.

Yours (well, at least the white and black custom with MQs) doesn't look bad neither  8)



I know, but i still get a hankering for a double bound, rosewood board tele with piledrivers. Damn GAS comes and goes like a yoyo.
Title: Re: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: BigB on December 29, 2009, 08:42:44 PM
I'm really pleased this worked out so well for you!

By the way, a GREAT thanks to you all guys - Andrew, AndyR, gwEm, PhillyQ, Elliot and anynone else I'd forgot - that helped me deciding for these pups. I was really prepared to have to send them back for something hotter, so to me it's a very pleasing surprise. And a lesson FWIW : Thou Shall Trust Tim :lol:

Also and FWIW... There was a recent thread about BKPs "hotness" where someone answered that BKPs were about tone, not output level.  One thing that really surprises me is that, while they are just a tad hotter than the stock pups (one or two Kohms at best), the BGF50s are WAY louder . And it's not only a matter of perceived output - the stock pups just couldn't push my bjr into the slightest overdrive, where the BGs seem to push it, well,  not quite as hard as the Crawlers (which are more than twice "hotter"), but not far.

So, ok, I'm willing to believe that 1 or 2 more Kohms are enough to make a difference for the preamp, and that this, added to improved clarity and definition, makes for the perceived increase in output level - but still, I think there's something else too. Mojo, perhaps ? :mrgreen:

Title: Re: NPD (spoiler : tele content inside)
Post by: BigB on December 29, 2009, 08:46:55 PM
Damn you that is a fine telecaster, and I surely don't need another one. But I want it.

Yours (well, at least the white and black custom with MQs) doesn't look bad neither  8)



I know, but i still get a hankering for a double bound, rosewood board tele with piledrivers.

Was what I first planned, and it turned out that BGF50s really do the trick. But if someone is willing to offer me another double bound rosewood board black tele with PDs on it, please do :mrgreen:
 

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Damn GAS comes and goes like a yoyo.

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