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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: MrBump on January 02, 2010, 09:52:31 AM

Title: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: MrBump on January 02, 2010, 09:52:31 AM
This is quite cool - I like the early models!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fgwRycQ46E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fgwRycQ46E)

Mark.
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: Andrew W on January 02, 2010, 10:28:45 AM
Thanks for sharing that.  I love watching how designs change and evolve to try and meet the cultural tastes of the time.  I think I prefer the earlier ones too but then all my favourite guitar shapes were designed before 1960 which shows how progressive I am. :)
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: Mr. Air on January 02, 2010, 11:24:10 AM
I like 'em best when they start looking like Gibsons SGs - that would be in the early 70s. I dig some of the earlier bodies that looks a bit like jazzmaster/jaguar or something in that erea, but the headstocks are defenitely not my thing.
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: Ratrod on January 02, 2010, 11:56:51 AM
That reminds me.....

I still need to re-set-up my SG400. And I'm still trying to decide between 10's or 11's.

Totally digging that white 3000. What a beauty.
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: d1dsj on January 02, 2010, 12:23:31 PM
Cool link, thanks for that.  8)
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: gwEm on January 02, 2010, 01:03:31 PM
never realised there was a shorter period of single cutaway les paul alike designs
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: HTH AMPS on January 02, 2010, 03:57:30 PM
I'd like to try one of the earlier ones just for kicks - bet they're rare as hens teeth though.
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: MrBump on January 02, 2010, 04:08:07 PM
Did you notice the cut away fingerboards on some of the older models, in that 1980s Jackson style?

Pretty progressive for the early 1970s, I think!
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: HTH AMPS on January 02, 2010, 04:21:58 PM
heres one of the first LP-jr types that Yamaha built, great deal for someone...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/YAMAHA-SG-45-72-Made-Modified-with-TV-jones-PU-182_W0QQitemZ320468429580QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item4a9d682b0c#ht_500wt_956

Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: MrBump on January 02, 2010, 05:15:58 PM
heres one of the first LP-jr types that Yamaha built, great deal for someone...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/YAMAHA-SG-45-72-Made-Modified-with-TV-jones-PU-182_W0QQitemZ320468429580QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item4a9d682b0c#ht_500wt_956



Oooh, that's nice...  Wonder what it will go for?
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: choucas09 on January 02, 2010, 05:40:53 PM
Yeah that Yam is nice. Look at this weird one amongst his other items.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/YAMAHA-SX-60-Mid-70s-made-very-rare-guitar-MIJ-1152_W0QQitemZ220532894808QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item3358c8ec58#ht_679wt_941
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: MrBump on January 02, 2010, 06:01:28 PM
Yeah that Yam is nice. Look at this weird one amongst his other items.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/YAMAHA-SX-60-Mid-70s-made-very-rare-guitar-MIJ-1152_W0QQitemZ220532894808QQcmdZViewItemQQptZGuitar?hash=item3358c8ec58#ht_679wt_941

Looks like a Danelectro Sitar guitar.

Still cool though.  I think that I'd like to browse some second hand stores in Japan... I suspect a great guitar could be found...
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: Philly Q on January 02, 2010, 08:11:03 PM
That was cool.  There were a few oddities in the '80s and '90s I'd never seen before!
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: d1dsj on January 02, 2010, 08:41:19 PM
I had one the YSG models in blueburst, my mate has it now and it's a really great guitar. I believe it was designed by none other than Paul Reed Smith. It has got a PRS look about it for sure. I still have the SG3000 and it's a monster of a guitar. I've moved the strap button from the back of the neck to half way around the top horn and it's loads better, even the weight distribution is better. One of these days I'm going to have it re-finished in either white or gold.
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: mikeluke on January 02, 2010, 11:04:30 PM
Wot? Like this one?

(http://i585.photobucket.com/albums/ss291/lucky_luke61/Yamaha%20SG3000/GoldtopSG3000v3.jpg)

;-)
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: d1dsj on January 02, 2010, 11:58:28 PM
Nice! Yep either like that or white. Here's the boys  :)  One is my sons (got it him for his 16th birthday - when he was just 6months! ha ha) so I'll have mine re-fin'd.
(http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u76/d1dsj/DSC00337.jpg)
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: mikeluke on January 03, 2010, 07:42:33 PM
2???

That is just greedy!!

:-)
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: d1dsj on January 03, 2010, 08:23:57 PM
Yeah but one IS my boys!  :D

These guitars are without doubt some of the best built, playing and sounding guitars ever. Yes they are heavy, but no more than most maple capped L.P customs I've come across. By moving that strap button has made the guitar much more balanced and comfortable. The spinex pick ups are truely great, I ended up putting mine back in and it sings.
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: mikeluke on January 04, 2010, 08:11:11 PM
I'll try that one.... "It is for the son...., honest!"

"Err, what do you mean, 'how much was it?'"

:-)
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: DavidRees on January 04, 2010, 08:55:58 PM
an old SG500 with Bare Knuckle Manhattans
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: d1dsj on January 04, 2010, 09:13:04 PM
I'll try that one.... "It is for the son...., honest!"

"Err, what do you mean, 'how much was it?'"

:-)

Lol, worked for me :lol:
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: Bob Johnson on January 05, 2010, 10:27:15 PM
Yamaha SG's are really great so it's nice to see them get a little attention on this forum. The early 1500's and 2000's are my personal favourites. They are really quite prevalent in this neck of the woods so I get the chance to work on one or two of them regularly. The build quality is outstanding and having played in two bands where one of the guys has had a Yammy SG I'm well aquainted with what they sound like. Thanks for the thread and the link.
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: HTH AMPS on January 05, 2010, 10:46:00 PM
I've played a couple of old Yamaha SGs over the years and they can be great guitars - not so keen on the blingy looks though.
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: Philly Q on January 06, 2010, 12:05:04 AM
It's one of the very few guitars where I think the bling, including the gold hardware, looks just right.  I love the ebony board and those inlays on the SG2000 and SG1000. 

Having said that, I think the SG3000 goes a step too far with the abalone binding.  Still a lovely guitar, but a bit too much for me personally.
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: MrBump on January 06, 2010, 10:00:42 AM
^ I sort of agree - there's something about the 1970s vibe of the things that takes bling well.

If I were going to have a custom guitar commissioned, it would be one of these - I reckon it could be a corker.

Mark.
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: Philly Q on January 06, 2010, 01:10:24 PM
If I were going to have a custom guitar commissioned, it would be one of these - I reckon it could be a corker.

Now there's a thought - a thin-bodied one, in green, with a set of Emeralds!  :D
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: MrBump on January 06, 2010, 05:30:17 PM
Sounds good to me!
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: d1dsj on January 06, 2010, 06:53:52 PM
I can see what some of you feel about the blingy nature of the 3000, but I have to admit I love it. It's strange because when I see most guitars with abalone trim around the body it normally turns me off, however when I saw Dave Meniketti with Y&T for the first time at the Odeon in Brum back in the 80's with a black sparkle one I just had to get one someday! Another guitar I do like with the abalone binding is the Washburn Eagles, again from the 80's.
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: Philly Q on January 06, 2010, 08:17:59 PM
I can see what some of you feel about the blingy nature of the 3000, but I have to admit I love it. It's strange because when I see most guitars with abalone trim around the body it normally turns me off, however when I saw Dave Meniketti with Y&T for the first time at the Odeon in Brum back in the 80's with a black sparkle one I just had to get one someday! Another guitar I do like with the abalone binding is the Washburn Eagles, again from the 80's.

That's exactly who (and when) I associate the 3000 with, too!   :D
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: d1dsj on January 06, 2010, 08:22:38 PM
 :lol: Excellent!
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: Philly Q on January 06, 2010, 08:29:37 PM
Oh, I should say it wasn't the Birmingham Odeon for me, it was Bristol Colston Hall on the same tour!
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: d1dsj on January 06, 2010, 08:51:06 PM
Oh, I should say it wasn't the Birmingham Odeon for me, it was Bristol Colston Hall on the same tour!

Gotcha.... that takes me back, great days  :lol:
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: mikeluke on February 08, 2010, 08:27:08 PM
Guys - would appreciate a view from the Yam lovers out there - trying to sell that SG3000 in this thread (have a pickguard to cover the wear near the neck pup) - any views on value? Tried twice on eBay but got no takers. Couple of tyre kickers though!

Looking for a fair price (not being over optimistic) - just wondering if it is my view of the price or just that the market for a blingy guitar is quite small. IMHO I think that it is worth somewhere around £1200-1300. (1985 original model with coil taps)

Thanks for any opinions

Mike
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: d1dsj on February 08, 2010, 08:39:01 PM
I think the market for these guitars is relatively small. I would say the value at the moment is probably more around the £1000 mark. Yamaha owners know how good they are, but most people after a Les Paul type guitar are still going for a Les Paul. When I got mine, I knew I wanted one, I already had a couple of LP's, and decided I wanted an Sg3000 (had to be a 3000... bling or no bling) and I still want an old Ibanez Artist AR300. Also, it's not the best time to sell at the minute, too close after Christmas I think. I saw a mint one go a few months ago for about £1350, but it was before Christmas and it was exceptional condition.
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: Philly Q on February 08, 2010, 09:00:43 PM
I still want an old Ibanez Artist AR300.

They seem to go for a lot too... or at least, people try to sell them for a lot.

I had some ridiculous idea of finding one on eBay at a crazy bargain price that no-one else would've noticed.  :roll: :lol:
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: d1dsj on February 08, 2010, 09:13:19 PM
I still want an old Ibanez Artist AR300.

They seem to go for a lot too... or at least, people try to sell them for a lot.

I had some ridiculous idea of finding one on eBay at a crazy bargain price that no-one else would've noticed.  :roll: :lol:

Yeah same here. I had a brand new one back in the day and really regret selling not long after buying it from Musical Exchanges in Brum. It was first real guitar and it was beautiful, sold it along with my MINT late 60's Marshall Small box Plexi  :(    :lol:oh well.
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: Philly Q on February 08, 2010, 09:38:04 PM
Yeah same here. I had a brand new one back in the day and really regret selling not long after buying it from Musical Exchanges in Brum. It was first real guitar and it was beautiful, sold it along with my MINT late 60's Marshall Small box Plexi  :(    :lol:oh well.

Ouch, that must hurt.  :(

I fell for the AR300 when I saw the "Catch The Tiger" ad in the very first issue of Guitar Player I bought, in 1981.  I ended up buying a Hamer Special - similar looking with a sunburst top, but a lot less blingy.  That was my first proper guitar, I still have it although it's in a bad way.

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/ibaneztiger1.jpg)
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: d1dsj on February 08, 2010, 09:48:49 PM
Ah cr@p Philly... that looks like the one I had.... all flamey and beautiful!!! Excuse me whilst I go away and cry for a bit........  :(
Title: Re: History of the Yamaha SG
Post by: gwEm on February 08, 2010, 11:21:48 PM
that adverts practically a lolcat