Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: tomjackson on January 02, 2010, 11:24:15 AM
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Do they make a difference? I'm thinking of one for my 335.
Who makes them?
cheers
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You can get them here from Gotoh: http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailpieces/Electric_guitar,_non-trem_tailpieces/Gotoh_Aluminum_Stop_Tailpiece.html (http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Bridges,_tailpieces/Electric_guitar,_non-trem_tailpieces/Gotoh_Aluminum_Stop_Tailpiece.html)
It should give a bit more brightness and twang.
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^ what Ratrod says. I found they give a difference in tone, and a difference I like.
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Tonepros also do one - http://www.tonepros.com/products.htm
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I like the effect that it has and pretty much try to use them all the time
We get them from Gotoh and they are great
We have managed to finally get some chrome ones as everywhere seems to offer nickel but not chrome assuming that everybody is using for a vintage correct axe.
A little pricier but worth it for the tone
Tonepros also do one - http://www.tonepros.com/products.htm
The tonepros one is a bit expensive
I tend to favour using a Gotoh one and using the Tonepros split tailpiece studs to anchor it down 100% - works great
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Never tried them, but have been meaning to try the Faber aluminium tailpiece for some time now. I remember someone on the LPF comparing the Faber with a Pigtail tailpiece and was pleasantly surprised at how close they were (considering the Pigtail stuff costs a fortune).
FABER:
http://www.tokaiguitar.de/produktdetail.php?id=17&nonav=1
http://cvgshop.com/product_info.php?products_id=53&osCsid=88baf5431b026015868b5142005eff9c
PIGTAIL:
http://www.pigtailmusic.com/Products.php#50sTailPiece
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Tonepros also do one - http://www.tonepros.com/products.htm
The tonepros one is a bit expensive
I tend to favour using a Gotoh one and using the Tonepros split tailpiece studs to anchor it down 100% - works great
And the Tonepros tailpiece is made by Gotoh anyway!
+1 to the Gotoh tailpiece with Tonepros studs.
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what tonal change do you guys hear with the lighter tailpiece?
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Thanks for the link HTH, they seem to sell them in gold! I will have to buy one in a few months to test it on my new guitar :)
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1960 LP junior. the wraparound bridge is exactly 28 grams... feels like nothing in the hand.
the guitar sounds amazing for many reasons but i am convinced this is one of the important ones:
(http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e31/WezV/LPJ/bridge3.jpg)
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what tonal change do you guys hear with the lighter tailpiece?
I've got one on my Swamp Ash SG.
I'm pretty cynical about these things, but even I could detect a small amount of extra top end 'zing', and definitely more sustain.
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what tonal change do you guys hear with the lighter tailpiece?
I've got one on my Swamp Ash SG.
I'm pretty cynical about these things, but even I could detect a small amount of extra top end 'zing', and definitely more sustain.
I've got an aluminium wraparound on my LP Jr. It definitely made a very noticeable difference when I fitted it, it seems to emphasise both bass and treble somewhat (but not in a harsh, piercing way) and the guitar is louder acoustically.
Not sure about sustain on mine, it may have actually decreased a little, but that may be because the note rings louder initially so it seems to tail off quicker.
For comparison, I have an identical Jr which still has the original zinc(?) bridge. It sounds less lively but on the other hand seems a bit more focused and "solid" when playing chords, there's more chunk in the midrange. I do have an aluminium bridge for that one too, it'll be interesting to see if it ends up sounding like the first one or if they're just different anyway.
I suspect the aluminium tailpiece isn't something that automatically "improves" a guitar, it's more like a way of fine tuning the tone which may suit some guitars but not others. I've got 2 or 3 of the Gotoh tailpieces which I'm going to try on all my T-O-M guitars (eventually!).
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none of those descriptions sound like anything I want or need on my Les Paul - its spot on as it is.
however, its one of those nagging things I've been meaning to try so I will undoubtedly get one at some point.
what about the replacement bridges then? - are those more lightweight and therefore 'better' (subjectively) ???
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what about the replacement bridges then? - are those more lightweight and therefore 'better' (subjectively) ???
Replacement tune-o-matics? A far as I know, Tonepros and Faber bridges are made of cast zinc, the same as most bog-standard bridges. Callaham make one out of machined solid steel.
Pigtail make an aluminium T-O-M (and a normal zinc one), I don't think anyone else uses aluminium.
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Dead Mint Club and Montreux Guitars both make aluminium tailpieces.
Full disclosure: I am a Montreux dealer.
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I've just received and fitted the Faber Aluminium bridge. For those interested here are my initial impressions over the Gotoh stock zinc tailpiece. Same strings were used in the interests of continuity:-
Much lighter, probably a 3rd of the weight of the stock bridge
Nicely made and nice matt finish
Slightly woody with more acoustic zing
Lighter, less full mids
quicker attack
Overall a more vintagey (based on the old 335's ive played), airy semi tone all though the difference is not night and day. Some may prefer the fuller sounding tailpiece.
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I've just received and fitted the Faber Aluminium bridge.
Did you order direct from Tokai.de, Tom? I ordered a Faber bridge/tailpiece from them a month ago and it hasn't turned up yet. :?
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Hummm am I understand correct? this aluminium bridge loses a little of the "punch"??
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I've just received and fitted the Faber Aluminium bridge.
Did you order direct from Tokai.de, Tom? I ordered a Faber bridge/tailpiece from them a month ago and it hasn't turned up yet. :?
Yes, I ordered direct, I had to send a paypal payment in Euro's with a reference number in the subject. It took about a week from order to delivery so time to get in touch with them!
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Hummm am I understand correct? this aluminium bridge loses a little of the "punch"??
Not really, the puch is still there it's just a little less full. There's a little more clarity and focus.
But I'm talking a very small amount of difference, something I'd probably only notice for a while just after swapping over.
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I've just received and fitted the Faber Aluminium bridge.
Did you order direct from Tokai.de, Tom? I ordered a Faber bridge/tailpiece from them a month ago and it hasn't turned up yet. :?
Yes, I ordered direct, I had to send a paypal payment in Euro's with a reference number in the subject. It took about a week from order to delivery so time to get in touch with them!
Yeah, that's how I paid too. I did email the chap last week and he said he'd sent it. I'll give it a few more days, because I thought maybe he was really saying "I'd forgotten all about it but I have sent it now". :?
Hmm, this is annoying, those parts aren't cheap. I don't know if PayPal buyer protection applies for non-eBay transactions.
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I've just received and fitted the Faber Aluminium bridge.
Did you order direct from Tokai.de, Tom? I ordered a Faber bridge/tailpiece from them a month ago and it hasn't turned up yet. :?
Yes, I ordered direct, I had to send a paypal payment in Euro's with a reference number in the subject. It took about a week from order to delivery so time to get in touch with them!
Yeah, that's how I paid too. I did email the chap last week and he said he'd sent it. I'll give it a few more days, because I thought maybe he was really saying "I'd forgotten all about it but I have sent it now". :?
Hmm, this is annoying, those parts aren't cheap. I don't know if PayPal buyer protection applies for non-eBay transactions.
if you used a credit card, your card company will sort any 'goods not received' disputes out for you - they effectively own said goods until you pay your CC bill.
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It was straight from my bank account via PayPal, unfortunately. :(
Usually when I make higher-value PayPal purchases I fund them with my credit card, but this time I forgot for some reason.
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I really like the RS Guitar lightweight TP on my Les Paul but Prefer the standard zinc ones on ES guitars. The lighter TP on the LP added bags of sustain and clarity and almost an acoustic vibe, but seemed to take away from the tone on my ES-339.
Just my $0.02 worth.
:)
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Hummm am I understand correct? this aluminium bridge loses a little of the "punch"??
Not really, the puch is still there it's just a little less full. There's a little more clarity and focus.
But I'm talking a very small amount of difference, something I'd probably only notice for a while just after swapping over.
Cool!