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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Philly Q on January 14, 2010, 10:29:36 PM

Title: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Philly Q on January 14, 2010, 10:29:36 PM
I'm not going to buy any new guitars this year

God, I hate myself sometimes.  :|

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/GroteFoto-PB3L66FRred.jpg)
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: WezV on January 14, 2010, 10:31:12 PM
bloody lovelly
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Twinfan on January 14, 2010, 10:32:42 PM
Oooh!  Nice one Phil!  Looks superb!  A Japanese one I see...

I've just had a slight pang of GAS for one of these, which I'd put a mini-humbucker in -  the new PRS SE One Korina:

(http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd272/hansomatic/IMG_0120.jpg)
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: WezV on January 14, 2010, 10:36:29 PM
the se one does look nice!

shame woogie isnt around much now - he would go crazy for that tokai - more so if it was lefty
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Lew on January 14, 2010, 10:39:05 PM
Bet that rig sounds great
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: 38thBeatle on January 14, 2010, 10:40:24 PM
Nice one Philly.
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Philly Q on January 14, 2010, 10:47:52 PM
A Japanese one I see...

Yep! :D  How did you spot that so quick?  The two-screw trussrod cover?

The only bummer is, whichever courier company delivered it obviously whacked the box at some point and crushed the volume and tone knobs (the pots popped through the top of the knobs and the reflector bits were in the bottom of the box).  :(
I don't think the wood's damaged but I need to dismantle it to be sure.


shame woogie isnt around much now - he would go crazy for that tokai - more so if it was lefty

Yeah, it didn't influence my purchase - I always loved the look of these - but I remember the one Jake had.  No neck bends for mine though!!!
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Philly Q on January 14, 2010, 10:48:56 PM
Bet that rig sounds great

Not mine!  Everything in the pic - except the guitar! - belongs to the previous owner.  :)
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: FernandoDuarte on January 14, 2010, 10:54:47 PM
Lovely SG Jr Phill!

I'm thinking in build a SG Jr or a LP Jr if I win the Unofficial Warmoth forum's raffle... Perhaps a Esquire...

Lovely this "foot on the door, punch on the face" attitude of the Juniors :twisted:
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: dave_mc on January 14, 2010, 11:25:21 PM
sweet :D

so you lasted a fortnight?
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Philly Q on January 14, 2010, 11:34:57 PM
so you lasted a fortnight?

Not even that.  Nine days, if I exclude the day I actually paid for it.   :oops:

But maybe it'll be like last year.  Not counting the Warmoth stuff (bear with me!) I only bought the 339, and that was way back in March.  Nowhere near as bad as the previous few years.

I'm not GASing for anything, so we'll see..... but this Tokai just turned up by chance so maybe it would be foolish to think nothing else will....
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: MDV on January 14, 2010, 11:42:56 PM
Speaking of; what happened to roo?

Oh, HNGD
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: LazyNinja on January 14, 2010, 11:48:30 PM
That's a sweet looking SG! How many SGs do you own now? 4?

That SE Korina looks sweet Dave... Always liked the SE Ones.
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Philly Q on January 14, 2010, 11:52:05 PM
That's a sweet looking SG! How many SGs do you own now? 4?

Just the three - the SG-155, this one (does anyone know the model number, by the way?) and my trusty green SG-X.
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: dave_mc on January 15, 2010, 12:23:45 AM
hehe, i was being charitable about the fortnight, i was going to say, "not counting when you bought it", but it looked like a stock picture, so i couldn't be sure you hadn't just ordered it today and it hadn't arrived yet.

sorry to hear it turned up a bit bashed. I'm always super-paranoid before stuff arrives that it's not going to get bashed. I've been fairly lucky so far, I don't think anything has got bashed, but there's always a first time and it happens... :(

EDIT: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tokai-USG90-SG-Junior-See-Through-White-Single-P90_W0QQitemZ250434787399QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item3a4f139847

model number is usg90, assuming you bought a newish one. :)
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: shobet on January 15, 2010, 12:31:53 AM
A white SG type guitar is a beautiful thing.
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Philly Q on January 15, 2010, 12:39:30 AM
sorry to hear it turned up a bit bashed. I'm always super-paranoid before stuff arrives that it's not going to get bashed. I've been fairly lucky so far, I don't think anything has got bashed, but there's always a first time and it happens...  :(

EDIT: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Tokai-USG90-SG-Junior-See-Through-White-Single-P90_W0QQitemZ250434787399QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item3a4f139847

model number is usg90, assuming you bought a newish one. :)

Oh lawks, I saw that ad and didn't even register the model number.  :oops:

It is indeed a newish one, in fact the guy bought it from Richtone's eBay shop just a few weeks ago.  Then he acquired a vintage SG Special so the Tokai had to go.  

So in effect, I've got a new one (albeit with broken knobs  :roll: ) a bit cheaper than Richtone's price.  But I'll be changing the electronics, of course, so I'd have had to buy US-fit knobs anyway.  Fingers crossed the wood isn't cracked.



A white SG type guitar is a beautiful thing.

It doesn't show very well in the pics, but it's almost a blonde finish, you can see the mahogany underneath (not in a Gibson "quick lick of satin undercoat" kind of way).  A bit more interesting than the solid white SG-75 I had.
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: gwEm on January 15, 2010, 12:57:37 AM
Oooh!  Nice one Phil!  Looks superb!  A Japanese one I see...

I've just had a slight pang of GAS for one of these, which I'd put a mini-humbucker in -  the new PRS SE One Korina:

good idea dave
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: gwEm on January 15, 2010, 12:58:15 AM
A white SG type guitar is a beautiful thing.

for what its worth, i also approve :)
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Twinfan on January 15, 2010, 09:04:48 AM
I take it you'll be growing some flowing locks and doing a Rick Parfitt on us now Phil?

:lol:
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: d1dsj on January 15, 2010, 10:24:16 AM
Cool guitar, one day I will get me a White SG... they just look the dogs danglies. Very nice.
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Philly Q on January 15, 2010, 10:49:28 AM
I take it you'll be growing some flowing locks and doing a Rick Parfitt on us now Phil?

:lol:

Good god no!

I had the flowing golden locks in my youth, but they're not coming back unless I win the lottery and become a gentleman of leisure.

Although I wouldn't mind doing a Rick in the sense of settling down with a nice fitness instructor 15 years younger than me....
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Afghan Dave on January 15, 2010, 10:49:59 AM
Very nice guitar Philly...

Please do the following for just for me...


Turn up the PC speakers and play this loud.... skip to 2min 40 if you're in a hurry!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5118099387094400202#

Nice...  :D
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Philly Q on January 15, 2010, 11:02:04 AM
I can't see the vid.... is it Jake-era Ozzy?
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: _tom_ on January 15, 2010, 11:11:32 AM
That looks awesome :) I'm a big fan of SGs now (probably prefer em over Les Pauls at the minute :o) and love that white/single p90 Jr look :)

Can see myself being tempted into selling one of my LPs and buying something like that if any come up!
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Afghan Dave on January 15, 2010, 11:15:34 AM
I can't see the vid.... is it Jake-era Ozzy?

Yup...
(http://i29.tinypic.com/2s996pt.jpg)
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: tomjackson on January 15, 2010, 11:31:19 AM

Nice Guitar!
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Plexi Ken on January 15, 2010, 11:59:04 AM
That's so cool  8)  My finger's hovered over the buy-it-now button on the cherry version in Richtone's ebay site a few time. I'm trying to justify it as I have no SG and nothing with P90s... 2 for 1  :oops:

This clip was on the beeb a few days ago and didn't help cure the GAS,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekta6EKhb2g

My usual question, what's the neck thickness like. IIRC, Tokai use an in-between, medium size?
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Philly Q on January 15, 2010, 12:15:43 PM
My usual question, what's the neck thickness like. IIRC, Tokai use an in-between, medium size?

Initial impression was that it's pretty chunky, like my Tokai SG-155.  Definitely heftier than the Gibson '61 Reissues, about the same sort of size as a Standard, I'd say (although the necks on the various Standards and Specials I've owned did vary a bit!).
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Ratrod on January 15, 2010, 12:30:22 PM
That is a seriously nice guitar.

Time to start a punk band or seomething, Phil.

Although I think that's not your cup o' tea but it's the perfect guitar for the job.
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: AndyR on January 15, 2010, 01:18:08 PM
Ah! Excellent, it won't be me first to succumb this year, then... :lol:

I'm intending not to buy any, but there is danger of two possibles (which I am suppressing all thought of, even as we speak...)

Looks cute (though I'm not a huge fan of white guitars), and a single P90 beast sounds like a very useful weapon to have...

Hope it checks out ok after its bash.
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: JDC on January 15, 2010, 02:42:11 PM
Speaking of; what happened to roo?

Oh, HNGD

I've got him on my steam friends list if you want me to send him a message, he's pretty busy most days

was talking to him last night and he still has the original strings on the roocaster
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Philly Q on January 15, 2010, 03:01:10 PM
That is a seriously nice guitar.

Time to start a punk band or seomething, Phil.

Although I think that's not your cup o' tea but it's the perfect guitar for the job.

Thanks, but you're right, no punk band for me!  :D  It would look cool with a sticker or two, but I'm probably a bit too conservative for that.

I actually love the lead tone from these single P-90 guitars - I think of them as Leslie West guitars, although he never had an SG as far as I know (he did put a dogear in a V, though!).
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Mr. Air on January 15, 2010, 05:29:31 PM
That guitar just looks overly nice. White SGs really rock and the dog ear really adds some mojo. Strap it on next time you're going out, Philly, and you'll be the stud of the night  :lol:
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: bucketshred on January 15, 2010, 06:05:49 PM
That Tokai is sexy, might have to convert my Epi so single humbucker spec with a big scratchplate!

Paddy
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: roland_rat on January 15, 2010, 08:17:37 PM
Very nice. I will be intrested to here how you get on with this one. Enjoy!
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: dave_mc on January 15, 2010, 08:27:51 PM
Oh lawks, I saw that ad and didn't even register the model number.  :oops:

It is indeed a newish one, in fact the guy bought it from Richtone's eBay shop just a few weeks ago.  Then he acquired a vintage SG Special so the Tokai had to go. 

So in effect, I've got a new one (albeit with broken knobs  :roll: ) a bit cheaper than Richtone's price.  But I'll be changing the electronics, of course, so I'd have had to buy US-fit knobs anyway.  Fingers crossed the wood isn't cracked.

haha, no worries. Good luck with the electronics, and fingers crossed the wood's ok :)
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Philly Q on January 16, 2010, 10:00:26 AM
OK, I took it all apart this morning and nothing is damaged except the knobs.   :good:

Nice workmanship!  There's a full-width tenon which extends 5cm past the end of the neck into the body so hopefully it'll be a bit stronger than the typical SG neck joint.  Shielded control cavity too.   :)

Now to start thinking about pimping it.....
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Twinfan on January 16, 2010, 11:12:06 AM
New knobs, a nice P90 and a nice tone cap.  That should be all you need!

The pots are usually pretty good  :)
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Philly Q on January 16, 2010, 11:50:20 AM
New knobs, a nice P90 and a nice tone cap.  That should be all you need!

The pots are usually pretty good  :)

That's an interesting point, I usually replace the pots automatically but I should give these a chance before leaping to buy CTS.  The wiring is very neat, at least!

It's also getting an aluminium bridge, I'm not crazy about the zinc lightning-bar one (with wound G compensation).
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: _tom_ on January 16, 2010, 12:02:50 PM
Where did you get it from, Philly? Just a 2nd hand ebay job? I'm already planning my next SG after seeing this, I want the same one :lol:
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: Philly Q on January 16, 2010, 12:41:46 PM
Where did you get it from, Philly? Just a 2nd hand ebay job? I'm already planning my next SG after seeing this, I want the same one :lol:

Yep Tom, mine is secondhand from eBay, but the guy only bought it a few weeks ago.  And this is where he bought it:

http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/Rich-Tone-Music-Ltd__W0QQ_sidZ38660718?_nkw=tokai+sg&submit=Search (http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/Rich-Tone-Music-Ltd__W0QQ_sidZ38660718?_nkw=tokai+sg&submit=Search)

Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: PhilKing on January 16, 2010, 04:55:50 PM
great guitar - I love white SG juniors - with that amp and some cranking you'll have great fun
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: dave_mc on January 16, 2010, 08:07:25 PM
sweet, good news, philly :D
Title: Re: NGD..... and it's not a Tele.
Post by: nfe on January 16, 2010, 08:39:17 PM
SG Juniors are great. Crackin' guitar. Get Sabbath'd oot yer napper.