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Title: at the end of the day
Post by: Dmoney on January 19, 2010, 09:45:42 AM
(is isn't aimed at Bob Gnarly haha)

Does anybody else get annoyed by the use of "at the end of the day"?

everyone on the Jeremy Kyle show says it all the time. Like if you use that phrase, what you say after it is some kind of definitive debate ending comment. It's just not true! Saying "at the end of the day" doesn't mean you just won the argument! People say it every few sentences when they get vexed! It gets to me, it really does. Maybe i'm the only person that has noticed this.

Why not say something else? It's always that one thing! AAAH!

(Before you ask, I work in TV and as such, have to monitor ITV HD. which has JK on it. in HD...!)
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Bob Gnarly on January 19, 2010, 10:09:30 AM
I don't watch Jeremy Kyle so I can't comment.
Your interpretation is a bit out, replace with "the crux of the matter, for me, is..."
Is that better?


Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Dmoney on January 19, 2010, 10:11:11 AM
if you watched jeremy kyle you'd know man. my interpretation is correct.

its used every few sentences. and in public ive noticed people saying it more and more also.

it shouldn't, but it gets to me. mostly when used in abundance.


edit: I just wanted to add, I agree with you about what it SHOULD mean, the way you use it... but I don't think most people use it like that. Like it will be used before stating any point, regardless, not a defining point. I think if you're going to say "the crux of the matter, for me, is..." then the next thing out your mouth should be at least a contender for the "crux of the matter", rather than just another random bit of some argument. does that make more sense?
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Fourth Feline on January 19, 2010, 10:26:08 AM
Another contender  being the phrase : " It's one of those things ...... " .   Used as a complete(d) sentence . I also know a chap who starts many sentences with " At the end of day ... " -  so I understand your pain.

" At the end of the day , It's just one of those things ..." .  :evil:
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Dmoney on January 19, 2010, 10:26:58 AM
when in rome
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Ian Price on January 19, 2010, 10:43:25 AM
" we are where we are"

Always annoys me, talks baout stating the obivous.

"At the end of the day, we are where we are. It's just one of those things"
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: MDV on January 19, 2010, 10:54:41 AM
At the end of the day, the bottom line is each to their own. imo. YMMV.
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Plexi Ken on January 19, 2010, 12:04:06 PM
I think I first noticed it being used by footballers, it's spread all over since. Seems to go with "...  know what I mean" at the end.

"At the end of the day I get paid millions for kicking a ball not grammar, know what I mean"

The one politicians use (and drives me mad) is "look" at the start of the sentence.

"Are you going to raise taxes?"
"Look, no one likes paying taxes..."


Why say "look", what's it for?
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Will on January 19, 2010, 12:34:34 PM
I hate it when people say "I'm not being funny, but..."
Don't know why, just don't like it
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Afghan Dave on January 19, 2010, 01:05:41 PM
The most over-used and abused work in current usage....

Basically  :shock: :x
 
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: choucas09 on January 19, 2010, 01:12:14 PM
 "I'm not being funny, but..." gets on my tits too, though Jim Davidson uses it well...
One that currently gets to me is " Give it up for...", give what up? Smoking, drinking?
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: MrBump on January 19, 2010, 02:29:31 PM
What about "to be honest..."?

I mean, what's the point of saying ANYTHING unless the audience is entitled to presuppose that it's actually the truth?!?!

Sheesh!

Although, to be honest...

Actually, there's another one that I hear a lot around London - "Is it...", which I believe to be a younger, hipper version of "innit..." which was very popular about 10 years ago...  It's a yoof culture thing, I guess...
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: dave_mc on January 19, 2010, 03:28:39 PM
can't stand cliches. Jargon and buzzwords might be even worse, though.
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Dr. Stein on January 19, 2010, 03:45:01 PM
I'm sorry, but is that really the most annoying thing you can think of about the Jeremy Kyle show? Really?
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Dmoney on January 19, 2010, 04:01:25 PM
I'll be honest, its one of a few things.

Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: AndyR on January 19, 2010, 05:34:41 PM
A girl I used to work with (she was my boss) years ago always used say "At the end of the day..."

I took her to task over it because it was cover for "I know it's wrong, but that's what my boss wants... why can't you just shut up and do it wrong?"

She even agreed with me... "I know exactly what you mean, but, at the end of the day.... oh my! I do say it a lot don't I?"

We both fell about laughing. She wouldn't bluddy go out with me though :lol:

Sadly, I use at least one of the others in speech ("To be honest..."), but I have been trying to phase it out recently.

There's another phrase I use a lot at work: "We're f***ed", as in "At the end of the day, if we were being totally honest with ourselves, we're f***ed..."
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: 38thBeatle on January 19, 2010, 07:09:35 PM
I can't stand it when people start a sentence with "I mean". Nor can I stand the phrase "at this moment in time". Another pet hate is  "Worst case scenario" . Not only that, it is the way that things are said. The upwards inflection that has become the norm is irritating. I don't watch any of the soaps but do they have a compulsory " and whassats spost ter mean" in each "episode". 
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Johnny Mac on January 19, 2010, 07:41:13 PM
Good thread! My pet hate is "He/she turned round and said....Used to hear it all the time on talk sport phone ins.
Also ATEOTD see i made a new word from it.

You should hear how the younger generation talk in London. "My days!"
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Will on January 19, 2010, 07:42:19 PM
There's another phrase I use a lot at work: "We're f***ed", as in "At the end of the day, not being funny, but... if we were being totally honest with ourselves, we're f***ed..."

:D
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Antag on January 19, 2010, 07:46:05 PM
What about "to be honest..."?
It can be worse.  I had a colleague who used to say "To be brutally honest" & the guy who sat next to him used to start sentences with "The reality of the situation is...".

I launched a concerted campaign to tease them out of it.  I started every discussion with, "OK, to be brutally honest about the reality of the situation..."

Neither of them do it anymore :)
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: nfe on January 19, 2010, 07:59:56 PM
"I'm not being rude, but..." Yes you are, or you wouldn't feel compelled to excuse yourself pre-emptively.
"I'm not racist, but..." As above.
"No offence, but..." You're going to say something offensive now and want to prepare folks for it.
"With all due respect..." With no respect whatsoever, then.

All bug me.
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Will on January 19, 2010, 08:05:02 PM
"I'm not being rude, but..." Yes you are, or you wouldn't feel compelled to excuse yourself pre-emptively.
"I'm not racist, but..." As above.
"No offence, but..." You're going to say something offensive now and want to prepare folks for it.
"With all due respect..." With no respect whatsoever, then.

All bug me.

With all due respect NFE, look it up - its in the Geneva convention http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af-Id_fuXFA
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Dr. Stein on January 19, 2010, 08:13:02 PM
 :?

I say most of these things, in moderation at least.

"After considering arguments X, Y and Z, then, I conclude that..." just isn't very colloquial. "At the end of the day", "basically" or similar just says it more easily.

"To be honest" or "look" is used to express the fact that what you're about to say might be controversial in some way.

"Worst case scenario" means exactly that, and it's quite a useful phrase.

There's nothing wrong with any of these phrases, but what is annoying is when people start misusing them - that's annoying with literally anything...
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: MDV on January 19, 2010, 08:16:57 PM
At this rate, soon enough, before you know it, if this goes on like it is, we arent going to have anything left we're allowed to $%&#ing say!
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Nadz1lla on January 20, 2010, 11:35:11 PM
It's like Canadians when they put "Right?" at the end of everything, lol. My mate interviewed Devin Townsend with the aid of my Dictaphone. Devin's a lovely chap, but damn, EVERYTHING ended in "right?" to the point where I actually started to cringe every time he said it. I think it's something to do with not being able to articulate your sentences enough and you feel you have to add "filler".
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: MisterMuncher on January 21, 2010, 02:18:24 AM
Every time someone says "at the end of the day..." complete the sentence with "it gets dark". Youll only have to do it once or twice each.
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Bob Gnarly on January 21, 2010, 07:50:31 AM
Every time you say "at the end of the day" and some smart arse rudely interrupts and says "it gets dark". Say "Not in Norway during the summer". You'll only have to say it once or twice. :)
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: shobet on January 21, 2010, 08:54:14 AM
But then they can retort 'Only in the North of the country you c--k' and who will look like a fanny then?
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Bob Gnarly on January 21, 2010, 09:19:31 AM
Then you can say "Obviously" Therefore retaining your cool demeanour.

In that exchange the one who doesn't resort to petty insults is not the one who looks like a fanny. :)
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: shobet on January 21, 2010, 09:45:53 AM
I bet you'd pull a face like your constipated when you'd say 'obviously' as well. And you're still a c--k.
Title: Re: at the end of the day
Post by: Bob Gnarly on January 21, 2010, 09:51:32 AM
And you're still a c--k.

Looking at your avatar, I'd say that's pretty ironic.