Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Cattivo Ragazzo on November 22, 2005, 12:05:03 AM
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I bet he's raking it in now with all these new US dealers.. :D
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I bet he's raking it in now with all these new US dealers.. :D
You mean the new US dealers are raking it in....it'll be trade price for the dealers!
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Tim and everyone at BKP are making lots of guitarists' life better. Sounds like a very positive job. They really deserve what they earn. Not all jobs are like that.
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Tim and everyone at BKP are making lots of guitarists' life better. Sounds like a very positive job. They really deserve what they earn. Not all jobs are like that.
Well said that man.
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Have to second what Peterku said, BKP's have certainly added that certain something to my "sound".
Go Tim & the BKP Team! One more step towards world domination! ;)
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My tone is getting rich. 8)
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I spoke to Tim yesterday while ordering some Mother's Milks. I asked him hole long it took to make a the pickups. He said a couple hours to wind (and I assume wax) them and a similar amount of time to make the bobbins.
If you take that as 2 to 3 hours to make a set then £165 is well cheap for skilled labour and taking his overheads into account. I doubt he'll be buying that Ferrari any time soon.
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I bet he's raking it in now with all these new US dealers.. :D
We wish! all money is invested back into the company and spent on the tooling to make better quality components exclusivly for us.
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I'll definately go with Peterku. My tone was transformed after using BKP's and i will NEVER use another pickup for as long as i live.
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i'm going to pimp BKP some more on the HC forums once i get my engl, they all love clips of different stuff on there... will have them guessing what pickup i'm using out of a list (emgs, SD, dimarzio etc) :P
Its amazing what people say in posts like that, there was a good one where a few people said 'i like clip #2, that has to be the X2N, its the best pickup blah blah, EMG 81s are too cr@p sounding and sterile'... only trouble is, it was the EMG 81 on the clip they all picked :lol:
Easy to weed out the BS people from those who've actually got their opinions from USING different stuff!
Sidetracked, but yeah, BKP for world domination!
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I spoke to Tim yesterday while ordering some Mother's Milks. I asked him hole long it took to make a the pickups. He said a couple hours to wind (and I assume wax) them and a similar amount of time to make the bobbins.
If you take that as 2 to 3 hours to make a set then £165 is well cheap for skilled labour and taking his overheads into account. I doubt he'll be buying that Ferrari any time soon.
Nah - waxing takes longer...
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Well I'd like to think that Tim and the chaps do rake it in at some stage. S'far as I am concerned, they deserve to.
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The people who really benefit from our increased business is you guys! It has enabled us to produce the worlds first completely vintage accurate components and afford time in the studio to record all the sound clips (studio time is now booked) and give us the motivation to push the business beyond the UK.
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Yes Steve! Conquer Europe! I'm sick and tired of listening to live bands with a cr@p guitar sound.
Most bands don't even use amps anymore. They just plug it into some digital device that's plugged into the PA.
Spread the gospel of good tone!
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Yes Steve! Conquer Europe! I'm sick and tired of listening to live bands with a cr@p guitar sound.
Most bands don't even use amps anymore. They just plug it into some digital device that's plugged into the PA.
Spread the gospel of good tone!
Amen brother!
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i'm going to pimp BKP some more on the HC forums once i get my engl, they all love clips of different stuff on there... will have them guessing what pickup i'm using out of a list (emgs, SD, dimarzio etc) :P
Its amazing what people say in posts like that, there was a good one where a few people said 'i like clip #2, that has to be the X2N, its the best pickup blah blah, EMG 81s are too cr@p sounding and sterile'... only trouble is, it was the EMG 81 on the clip they all picked :lol:
Easy to weed out the BS people from those who've actually got their opinions from USING different stuff!
Sidetracked, but yeah, BKP for world domination!
that'd be an awesome idea- a lot of the guys on HC are very set in their ways
and on a side note, i can't wait to hear your pickups once you've recorded them in the studio, mr pig!
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Good Job guys, although i havent witnessed it yet :(.
I hope to soon, and hopefully at somepoint in the future, to help sort out a dealership in Greece.
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Yes Steve! Conquer Europe! I'm sick and tired of listening to live bands with a cr@p guitar sound.
Most bands don't even use amps anymore. They just plug it into some digital device that's plugged into the PA.
Spread the gospel of good tone!
:D For the record Ratty there`s nothing wrong with using Digital devices instead of amps, & yes you can tell the difference between what P/U`s are being used with digital devices.
Tim & the boys do a great job & provide an excellent product & it`s hand made to boot, He also took gambles with his own money to start his business he deserves all the money he can make !! :D
:D 8)
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I've seen a number of bands play without an amp. Everyone I heard sounded bad. Guitars ranged from PRS's, Teles and Music man. They all sounded the same. At times I could bearely hear it was a guitar.
Dunno if it's the digital things or the PA or the guy operating the PA. It could also be the huge amount of effects they put in the mix.
Whenever I see a band with a 'normal' miced amp, it sounds like a guitar.
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I've seen a number of bands play without an amp. Everyone I heard sounded bad. Guitars ranged from PRS's, Teles and Music man. They all sounded the same. At times I could bearely hear it was a guitar.
Dunno if it's the digital things or the PA or the guy operating the PA. It could also be the huge amount of effects they put in the mix.
Whenever I see a band with a 'normal' miced amp, it sounds like a guitar.
+1
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I've seen a number of bands play without an amp. Everyone I heard sounded bad. Guitars ranged from PRS's, Teles and Music man. They all sounded the same. At times I could bearely hear it was a guitar.
Dunno if it's the digital things or the PA or the guy operating the PA. It could also be the huge amount of effects they put in the mix.
Whenever I see a band with a 'normal' miced amp, it sounds like a guitar.
I can hear the difference too, but with my Vox Tonelab SE, the sound through a PA is s-o-o-o close I'm happy with it for most things. Of course, I don't use much in the way of effects. And I wouldn't record with it either, except just messing around at home.
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Rich :lol: :lol: ...if only
Building a solid foundation is what I'm concentrating on at the moment and that means every penny is going into new tooling and constant advertising.
The biggest tip of the hat has to go to you lot.........without users/players there'd be no BKP!
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YOU SOLD US OUT TO MCFLY DAMNIT
BKP SELL OUTS!!"(*)"()(&!!!"2!!
:lol: heh, good news, at least they will sound good live...imagine the backlash on the HC & other forums if Seymour Duncan or EMG announced that Busted or McFly were using their pickups!!
I think its great, shows that BKPs are for everyone, and theres something by you guys good for any musical taste or style :)
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I was watching McFly on telly a while back...i think Girls Aloud were on the same programme (thats my excuse :wink: ), and man, they have some nice equipment. I think I saw Top Hat amps? and some other stuff, I cant remember specifically but hey, I remember being impressed.
I suppose when you're minted and famous it gets easier, the quest for tone.
I'm no McFly fan, but I always had a little bit more respect for them than Busted. I think it was that surf-music bit they put in '5 Colours...' I kind of realised then that whilst I completely do not like their music, they know what they are doing and you have to respect that! PDT_003
So what pickups are they using then? Warpigs? :wink:
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McFly have some serious gear...there's an interview in Guitar Buyer. I don't have a problem with them, they're producing product for a specific market and good for them. Hell, plenty of people I know who were into early blues and r&b had a similar problem with The Beatles in their early days....
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Mcfly are using BKP's!!!!?????
well I think I like them a bit more now I know that they actually have a taste in their equipment and they don't just jump up and down pretending to play a guitar.
I think I would like them alot more if they had a decent British name instead of that nancy American sounding one.
MMM
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I always think of Back to the Future when i hear that name!! :lol:
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I always think of Back to the Future when i hear that name!! :lol:
Ditto. :lol:
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I always think of Back to the Future when i hear that name!! :lol:
Ditto. :lol:
:D +2
:D 8)
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Mcfly are using BKP's!!!!?????
well I think I like them a bit more now I know that they actually have a taste in their equipment and they don't just jump up and down pretending to play a guitar.
I think I would like them alot more if they had a decent British name instead of that nancy American sounding one.
MMM
HEy watch that shitee man,,,You probably would'nt even play guitar,if it wer'nt for "Americans",,,Jimi,,,,YEah,,,The American set the widow for Expression!
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If BKP floats on the stockmarket, PM me 8)
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Mcfly are using BKP's!!!!?????
well I think I like them a bit more now I know that they actually have a taste in their equipment and they don't just jump up and down pretending to play a guitar.
I think I would like them alot more if they had a decent British name instead of that nancy American sounding one.
MMM
HEy watch that shitee man,,,You probably would'nt even play guitar,if it wer'nt for "Americans",,,Jimi,,,,YEah,,,The American set the widow for Expression!
It's nice to get a well constructed, intellectual response from our american cousins :wink:
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I think they'd sound better if they had a british name - Like McDonald :lol:
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It's true! Many people felt the same way about the Beatles as they do about McFly now! Personally I like them all. Not many people realize how forward thinking the Beatles were - They thought 30 years forward and stole all McFly's and Oasis' ideas.
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B3, you don't say much but when you do it's pure class :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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HEy watch that shitee man,,,You probably would'nt even play guitar,if it wer'nt for "Americans",,,Jimi,,,,YEah,,,The American set the widow for Expression!
Troll ?
Troll that can't spell ?
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HEy watch that shitee man,,,You probably would'nt even play guitar,if it wer'nt for "Americans",,,Jimi,,,,YEah,,,The American set the widow for Expression!
Troll ?
Troll that can't spell ?
Nope, Motermouth is a customer and friend of BKP.
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Motor has a point...but if it wasn't for Keith Richards girlfriend introducing Chas Chandler to Jimi, who knows what would have happened!
The US was the melting pot that created jazz, blues, counrty, rock and roll but the origins were both African and European. What happened with the Beatles, Clapton, The Stones etc was a repackaging of what had happened in the 50s, along with the roots of early rock and roll.
Without any one of many artists from Leadbelly to Robert Johnson to Lonnie Donnegan (yes, really) to Chuck Berry, Elvis......Beatles....Hendrix...Zep etc Popular music would different to how it has turned out today!
That was off the point was't it.....???
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Probably, it all started with some guy singing 'that's allright, mama' in some cotton field.
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NOt a troll, no problem then :)
To me (anyway) theres too many other influences to give the US sole credit. African, Spanish, Celtic and others.
Hmmmm I will have to have a look at the ratio of US to non US music I own. I have lots of pre 1970 US music, very little afterwards.
Post that period I have Steely Dan, ZZ Top, Van Halen and a large quantity of the so called Paisley underground stuff (Long Ryders, Rain Parade and Green on Red), and even some Prince. But considering the amount of music produced the states (and the amount of music I buy), I must have missed somthing good (but I can't remember what).
I guess I never got (most) of the AOR & Grunge (I wont mention rap (with the silent C)).
I'm going to have to think about this (which usually means that I'm doomed ;) )
rob...
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Motormouth wrote - HEy watch that shitee man,,,You probably would'nt even play guitar,if it wer'nt for "Americans",,,Jimi,,,,YEah,,,The American set the widow for Expression!
Another american who hasn't heard of Bert Weedon and Hank Marvin. Sheesh!! :o :o Not forgetting Lonnie Donnegan, Joe Brown and skiffle, which were pre Elvis.
Motormouth, you probably wouldn't even be playing guitar if it wasn't for the Brits recognising Americans, Jimi for example, or the blues in general, unknown in his own coutnry, and exporting them back to you. Seriously, we were into guitar before Jimi and others and their music came over here, that's why they had such a good welcome, we could appreciate what we were hearing (and I'm an old sod, I speak from personal experience).
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Yeah but Lonnie Donnegan covered a Leadbelly song....and learnt most of his licks when he was doing National Service from American GIs stationed in Europe....
Ike Turner wrote Rocket '88 around 1950 didn't he?? That's about the earliest form of rock and roll I think.
Skiffle was around '55 to '57 wasn't it??
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Yes, you're spot on, but none of this was widely recognised in the US, it was, to put it politically correctly, 'ethnic' music. Only when the UK took all this stuff and fed it back to the States did you realise what you were sitting next to. The early Stones for example was virtually all 'black' music from Bo Diddley to Chuck Berry, Eric Clapton took traditional blues and popularised it, then fed it back to the US.
It's of no consequence now, and it certainly isn't a competition, but I think it's fair to say the UK was ahead of the US guitarwise in the 50's/early 60's despite the shortage of decent guitars! I well remember cheesecutter action and lusting after my cousin's Hofner archtop acoustic which seemed so easy to play, when I was about 8 years old!
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At the end of the day, who cares who started it. Were all doing it now!
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History just aint important unless you're making it!
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History just aint important unless you're making it!
Who's signature was that again?