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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Lew on January 29, 2010, 05:21:15 PM
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Yo!
I've sold an amp and a guitar to fund the beginnings of a rack on somewhat of a budget!
So far I've got a VHT 2/50/2 power amp. It was on sale from Haar, 650 quid new :o :o thanks for the link Hunter!!
An ADA MP-1/mod4 mk1 from Mr.Feline.
and a Samson PB10 Pro.
I'm not going to spend 300 quid on Furman for what's essentially a glorified power strip and spike protector even if Steve Vai endorses it :roll:. The PB10Pro looks pretty good, it has a lamp on the back, lights on the front and a voltage display. Lights!!! Lights!!!
I got a p.o.s 10U rack case from spider engineering. When I've settled on all my pieces I'll get something nice but whilst I'm building it up I just need something to hold the gear.
I nearly got a late 80s Mesa studio pre from another forum but someone got there first :(
I was tempted to go for an axe-fx but I'm really not sure if that's the best option for me. I might get a used Eventide H300 or Eventide Eclipse, or maybe even a G-Force + another preamp instead of the axe pre+fx in 1. For the mean time I'm just gonna get a 2U tray and put stomp boxes in it.
Anyone got any rack gear to sell me? A nice pre perhaps? :p
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I've got a Rocktron Intelliflex LTD you can have for £70 if you want it. PM me if you want details and pics.
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Other than a very cool Rocktron Piranha valve preamp
Similar in some ways to the Marshall JMP1 but much more versatile and the sweepable mid frequency makes for lots of dialed in tones
Judas Priest were using them up till the most recent tour
Bonus is they have knobs to control the parameters
Also clean up well when you roll the volume down
Here are the two I have:
(http://www.felineguitars.com/images/blowout/piranha.jpg)
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Thanks both, but no thanks 8)
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Lew, you should come check out my axe-fx if you want to try it out. it might change your mind!
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I have a powerstrip.
8 output, max load 13 Amps, all outputs are fused.
Its a 1RU Olsen strip.
its an 8 output one of these
http://www.olson.co.uk/6a_rfn_b.htm
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I have a powerstrip.
8 output, max load 13 Amps, all outputs are fused.
Its a 1RU Olsen strip.
its an 8 output one of these
http://www.olson.co.uk/6a_rfn_b.htm
Already covered on the strip, ta 8)
Lew, you should come check out my axe-fx if you want to try it out. it might change your mind!
Ta. Something to consider when my budget replenishes!
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I like that idea of getting an Eventide Eclipse.
I could just sit for hours and listen to the delays in there ... just otherworldly sound quality. i have tried replicating that sound with the Axe but the Axe delays are too analytical. My Providence pedal gets very close, but it's limited in functionality and the last 10% of sparkle aren't there.
And then the Eclipse has a few more effects too.
I almost went for a PCM42 recently, but they are 800$ and often need a recap, and that's a bit hefty for just a mono delay. Still love the sound of them, even if they're one trick ponys.
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Here you can have a look at a pretty sweet rack I played recently:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfM0z1Yyy9Q
CAE 3+SE and some italian poweramp (similar to the VHT2502).
GCX switcher and voodoo mixer.
Some drive, compressor, phaser, chorus pedals in the GCX.
SPX990 for the circular delays.
2xBogner Cubes.
Sweet indeed, but doesn't really get the punch of a head and a 4x12.
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Nice clip!
If you want a PCM then check this out. Unreal price.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lexicon-PCM-91-Reverb-Unit-in-A1-condition_W0QQitemZ250503821184QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Outboards_Effects_MJ?hash=item3a5330f780
Yea, an Axe would be the most straight forward option, covering both pre and efx. But, for the price I think I'll just get another nice pre and something like an Eclipse, PCM or maybe even a H3000 - I've been watching ebay on them all for months and you can easily get that gear for around 800 if you shop well. An Eclipse went on ebay for 750 yesterday. I have really simple efx needs that could be covered by that and a handful of pedals.
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Nice clip!
If you want a PCM then check this out. Unreal price.
Nice, but it won't do PCM42 tones. Nothing except the PSP42 plugin comes close ;)
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Just bought a Peterson, Strobo Rack 8)
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Nice clip!
If you want a PCM then check this out. Unreal price.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Lexicon-PCM-91-Reverb-Unit-in-A1-condition_W0QQitemZ250503821184QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Outboards_Effects_MJ?hash=item3a5330f780
Yea, an Axe would be the most straight forward option, covering both pre and efx. But, for the price I think I'll just get another nice pre and something like an Eclipse, PCM or maybe even a H3000 - I've been watching ebay on them all for months and you can easily get that gear for around 800 if you shop well. An Eclipse went on ebay for 750 yesterday. I have really simple efx needs that could be covered by that and a handful of pedals.
But the PCM-91 only does Reverbs?
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I tried building a rack last summer, managed to get one I was happy with.
Couldn't lift it.. so what use was that for a gig?
Im now using a Mesa/Boogie Stiletto and 1x12 w/ Boogie MC90.. much more portable.
and a 10w Amp I made for smaller gigs.
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I have long argued that you need to put the power amps in separate rack cases - putting them in the main one is simply too heavy to lift - even with road crew.
My preamp /FX rack is about 6u high and weighs about the same as an amp head
My power amp weighs the same.
Same story when Pete Townsend had Marshall make him 8x12 cabinets - looked cool but a nightmare to move
Split them into 4x12s and its easier.
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That's good advice, I'll definitely be doing that! The power amp alone weighs more than most heads I've had... weird!
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That's good advice, I'll definitely be doing that! The power amp alone weighs more than most heads I've had... weird!
That's because it is stereo and has two Output Transformers. ;)
So how're you're liking the 2502?
By the way, if you wanna check bias, you can do that with a multi meter, I snagged once the advice from Steve off the VHT forum:
"You don't have to install 1 ohm resistors to use a DVM. There already is a resistor in each plate circuit in the form of the output transformer primary resistance.
To read the bias for each tube, first read the resistance of each half of the OT primary - Red to Blue and Red to Brown leads (power off for a while) and then the voltage drop with BOTH standby switches on after warm-up - Red to Blue and Red to Brown.
The resistance is typically around 38-40 ohms. Normally the voltage reading will be in the range of 1.35 - 1.5VDC. So for example: 1.5/39=0.038 or 38mA.
Observe all of the usual precautions...!
smf"
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Not had a chance to try it yet, the pre-amp will be here tomorrow though! It'll be good to hear where the tones take me, I'm guessing I'll need another preamp to cover some more tones but hopefully the ada will be hair metal paradise 8)
I'm trying to track down a Mesa studio pre - I've had a couple pms on other forums from people basically saying ' I have one but I wont sell it easily!' what am I ment to say to that lol... I'm not going to pay more than its worth so eff off! :lol:
The spider engineering rack case I bought is total shiteee, total waste of money - the build quality is embarrassing, it's more likely going to be used as a dirty laundry bin than a rack.
Still looking for a cheap way to get those 80s rack delay and verb tones too! I'm watching pcms and there are a few cheap mpx-1s about on ebay. I could just buy a Providence pedal, but not enough lights :p
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Get a TC Electronics 2290 for delay !
Or look at a TC Electronic D2 or Line 6 Delay Pro if you want a dedicated delay unit
Lexicon reverbs are nice although I am pretty happy with my TC Electronics one
The G major isn't bad , although I have a G Force in my "Upstairs rack"
Yamaha SPX90s were all the rage in the late 80s but I felt they had flaws in some areas
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hah I can't afford a 2290!! They are like 2 grand on the bay!
Just did a search on D2 - I can afford that!! :lol: Is it just the delays from the G-Force or something?
edit - it's based on the 2290! Hmmmm!
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Nice one Jonathan! The TC d-2 seems perfect for what I want! Just bought one :o
That's the rack as built as it's going to be for a while then!
Samson PB10PRO
Peterson Strobo Rack
TC Electronics D2
ADA MP1
VHT 2/50/2
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You'll be pleased to find that the ADA MP1 (Mod4Mk2) has an IEC socket on the end of it's shortened mains cable - this will plug straight into the Samson with no modification required
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Cool, I'll open the package up in a bit 8)
This rack is so bad, the handles on the sides are attached from the inside and they go so wide you can't fit racks in the middle as the space is too narrow.... :lol:
WTB a 2u and 4u rack case!!
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I have a 3u full aluminium one with removable front and back that used to house my Marshall power amp
The extra 1U will come in useful or give extra air circulation?
It's also not excessively deep which is good news with something weighty as a deep case means the weight is all at the front and it's harder to carry
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I'll have a think and get back to ya. Good idea about the breathing room - Nolly suggested the same.
Did you use this mp-1 much? Did you make the presets?
I'm sat down with a cuppa and the Wagener, Nuno and Gilbert settings :D
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I'll have a think and get back to ya. Good idea about the breathing room - Nolly suggested the same.
Did you use this mp-1 much? Did you make the presets?
I'm sat down with a cuppa and the Wagener, Nuno and Gilbert settings :D
No - I used to use it when it was a stock MP1 and then I sent it off to be modded and acquired a load more MP1s at the same time ( I traded one of my guitars with the owner of ADAdepot (now sadly died) and ended up with more ADA stuff than I could shake a stick at)
So I tended to dial in a tone for that evening from one or other of the units and play a bit but never really saved any patches.
Trouble is that I dont have as much time for playing as I'd like - work takes it's toll
Then I got carried away with the Egnater stuff and have ended up selling most of the ADA stuff
Beware of the pro patch settings that you've got for the stock MP1 - they will sound very different on the modded unit.
You may have to use your ears rather than the settings on the list
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Good point, I'll plonk em in and change to taste!
The Nuno setting sounds really good! Gonna take bloody ages, this :lol:
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Good point, I'll plonk em in and change to taste!
The Nuno setting sounds really good! Gonna take bloody ages, this :lol:
Once you get the hang of it - changing the settings on the MP1 gets pretty quick
I found the Mod4 version gives a lot more mids so you may have to have a lower midrange setting for certain players tones
It certainly captures that late 80s tone though, although there is so much gain available with this mod it can get a bit noisy.
Most great tones can actually be had with the gain/drive levels lower than you would think which helps keep the noise floor under ontrol.
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Managed to find a Mesa Studio Pre :D
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put a short clip in 'players'