Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Nadz1lla on February 13, 2010, 04:36:01 PM
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I tried one of these today...
(http://www.projectmusic.net/ekmps/shops/projectmusic/images/schecter-black-jack-atx-c1-electric-guitar-aged-white.jpg)
Schecter C1 Blackjack ATX
I have to say, even with the stock pups, it was a really nice sounding guitar, and an absolute pleasure to play! The satin finish and ebony fretboard are just so nice to get on with, neck is quite fat which after playing my Jackson 7 and even my NJ Warlock was quite a different feel, but I liked it. Playing on an Ebony board really is like playing on glass, as someone here described it.
So here's the next big question.... 6 or 7? Hmmm.... Plus I like both colours. Hell, looks like I'm going to have to save up a LOT of money and get both, lol! Probably get the 6 in black and the 7 in aged white.
Tonally, I didn't manage to crank up the amp I put it through. I'm always a bit self concious when playing in shops anyway, but this place didn't even have a booth so I played quite low volume. Even so, I got the EQ where I wanted it and this guitar sounded beautiful, I can tell it's going to absolutely own with some BKP's and a decent amp in the mix. So I guess my search is over! It's a nice, understated looking guitar with a lot of sound going on, and it sustains forever.
Now I just have to get the money..... :? :x
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Really good lookin guitar - especially in that finish. I've got a mate who swears by his Schecter, loves it to bits.
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I've tried a few Schecters recently albeit in the cheaper ranges than that one and they appear to be superb value for money.
That one looks very nice and I like the white. Given that I usually hate white guitars thats a good thing ;)
I've got to agree on Ebony boards my Les Paul has Ebony and dot inlays and it's such a lovely feeling board to play.
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Aye I had heard that they were astounding value for money. They had a few cheaper ones in there, like the Omen Extreme, but I was dragging my lady around town and I didn't want to bore her to tears by making her hold my coat for 4 hours whilst I noodled around in a music shop, hehe. They had quite a few that I wanted to try in there, a fair range of C1's and similar. I was mainly after a Mahogany bodied axe really, string through body for that sustain and more chance for the wood's tone to shine through. If I could have my perfect axe it'd probably be the ATX Schecter with a Korina body instead of Mahogany, but due to having no money and actually liking the tone of this one, I think it'd be silly for me to go overboard and get a custom made. At least until I am financially comfortable again, anyway, heh.
I am thinking when this axe is finally mine, I'll slap a PK in the bridge and a CS in the neck.
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I've always been really impressed by Schecter guitars at any price range.
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I've always been really impressed by Schecter guitars at any price range.
+1. They always seem well made and solid, looks great too! I'm sure you'll enjoy that one 8)
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When a guitar hits you like that my experience has been buy it, raise the money by fair means or foul. Not only have not regretted such purchases, but I think the pleasure augments. Having a fair few guitars some don't get played so often, but then I rediscover the reason why I bought them in the first place. And if I hadn't bought the guitars the money would disappeared somewhere else. My advice is go forth and multiply.
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Yeah, I love the Schecter range - a wee bit 'metal' for my tastes, but if I was in the market for that trpe of guitar I'd definitely be interested...
Actually, I posted about the Robert Smith model a while back... I think that guitar split the pack somewhat, albeit unevenly!!!
Mark.
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Yeah, my experience is the same as choucas09 - when one hits you like that, it's kind of "yours". I've got a couple where I think "what am I doing with this thing?", then I get it out to convince myself I shouldn't have it... and I fall in love all over again.
I have to say, I do like the look of this one. And that's from a chap who usually a) doesn't go for strat-shaped guitars that aren't strats, and b) like, phlip, tends not to consider white guitars as quite the thing :lol:
This made me smile:
but I was dragging my lady around town and I didn't want to bore her to tears by making her hold my coat for 4 hours whilst I noodled around in a music shop
They put up with a lot, don't they? But I have to say, I've learnt to quite enjoy holding her coat and bags while sat outside fitting rooms in return :D
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Yes, unfortunately my situation is this:
Monthly pay - £650
Rent - £650 (although I share this with the Mrs)
Bills - £150(ish)
Food - £200
Credit Cards - £7000 (combined, not monthly, lol)
Petrol - £150(ish)
So no guitars for me for a very long time. Although if I get the job I just had an interview for my pay will be going up to something like £900 per month. Not loads, but enough that I can actually start making a dent in the cards. After they're paid off I'll be saving up for a new Guitar. Man this is going to take a looooong time, heh. :lol:
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thanks for the report. this is giving me confidence in my future purchase, although it'll be in the 8 string format
have you tried EMG's before? if so, how different are they from blackouts? i really didn't agree with anything the emg's gave me. i screwed them down so far down into the body of my guitar before it got bk'ed and i still found it had too much output. will i survive with blackouts long enough for me to raise the funds for a pair of riff raffs ? :D
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Schecters were amazing guitars for the money when Souncontrol were bringing them into the country themselves, but I think they struggle to be worth it since the prices rocketed with a third party to get a cut.
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Keven - Whilst the Blackouts are vastly superior to the EMG's, they're still not quite BKPs, heh. Tonally they're pretty nice, but for me on a personal level, all they do is give me an idea of the potential tone of the Guitar. When those BKP's are in, it'll sound nigh-on perfect.
EMG's - I find they are usually lacking in tonal quality. Seems to me they build them for power output and brootalz, but don't put any emphasis on a particular "tone". They're alright for a while but they always seem like they are lacking the hallmarks of a truly great pickup.
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I've only limited experience of EMG's, but I think you hit the nail right on the head there. It makes you wonder doesn't why manufacturers who are looking to make remarkable guitars settle for an obvious weak link in the chain. So many good guitars on the shelf out there don't have the pups they deserve.
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I don't think most manufacturers are looking to make remarkable guitars, they're looking to sell guitars, lots of them if possible. And EMGs are a selling point - a lot of players, especially in metal bands, actually like 'em.
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Keven - Whilst the Blackouts are vastly superior to the EMG's, they're still not quite BKPs, heh. Tonally they're pretty nice, but for me on a personal level, all they do is give me an idea of the potential tone of the Guitar. When those BKP's are in, it'll sound nigh-on perfect.
EMG's - I find they are usually lacking in tonal quality. Seems to me they build them for power output and brootalz, but don't put any emphasis on a particular "tone". They're alright for a while but they always seem like they are lacking the hallmarks of a truly great pickup.
that' what i found with the EMG's. too much power, too little clarity and response. i know blackouts aren't BKP's, but at least they're closer to passive pickups than EMG's (from your description and from what i've read around)
I'm definitely getting GAS now :D