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Title: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: Matt77 on February 14, 2010, 09:31:15 AM
http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Sammy-Hagar-Red-Rocker-Les-Paul/Neck-and-Headstock.aspx

Rather than start a new thread everytime they make some fugly guitar, I'm just going to keep posting on this one. Sadly, it could be a long thread
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: MrBump on February 14, 2010, 09:37:11 AM
I can't actually see the guitar in that link, only bits of it...
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: MrBump on February 14, 2010, 09:38:45 AM
^ actually, just had a click around and found it.

To be honest (if I'm still allowed to say that...) I think it's OK.
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: AndyR on February 14, 2010, 09:47:59 AM
Ummm... apart from the "chickenfoot" square @rsey symbol on the headstock...

... I have to admit that one does look fairly goddam gorgeous in my eyes. :lol:

The stuff on the headstock would be a deal-breaker for me though.
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: Matt77 on February 14, 2010, 09:55:35 AM
Lovely guitar.... just ruined by the headstock.
A bit like going out with Salma Hayek and then tattooing "mine" on her forehead
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: phlip on February 14, 2010, 10:02:54 AM
Lovely guitar.... just ruined by the headstock.
A bit like going out with Salma Hayek and then tattooing "mine" on her forehead

Yeah what everyone else said. It's very nice looking except for the hideous headstock.
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: AndyR on February 14, 2010, 10:14:27 AM
I'm relieved it's only the headstock you had issues with there, Matt! :D

I'm not sure, even if I was Sammy Hagar myself, that I'd put something as daft looking as that on such a gorgeous looking guitar...

Hang on... don't tell me he's done that to a guitar?

Perhaps they could make him some nice gibson t-shirts with that logo and "Sammy Hagar" printed tastefully above the left breast...

(... and, of course, "tw@t" in big letters on the back)
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: Philly Q on February 14, 2010, 11:54:16 AM
I don't think he'd really want all that cr@p on the headstock, they just had to do something tw@ttish to make it a "signature" model.  And in the process ruin a standard LP in a very beautiful colour.

I think Sammy's just taking advantage of his slightly-higher profile with Chickenfoot to move up the endorsement scale.   He does like a signature model that boy:

(http://home.comcast.net/~dubglenn/images/Guitars%20002.jpg)
(http://www.musikland-online.de/pix/onlineshop/Yamaha-AES-620-SH-signature-Sammy-Hagar.jpg)
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: Ratrod on February 14, 2010, 11:58:03 AM
That headstock look hideous with that stuff painted on.

This don't look right either.

(http://www2.gibson.com/Images/Products/Electric-Guitars/Les-Paul/Gibson-USA/Sammy-Hagar-Chickenfoot-Les-Paul/Features-Images/Features-Hardware-jpg.aspx)

Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: Philly Q on February 14, 2010, 12:19:19 PM
What, the metal jackplate?  I noticed it, but it doesn't bother me.  Do they still use plastic jackplates on most LP models? 
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: shobet on February 14, 2010, 12:39:06 PM
After the sale of some of the Cabo Wabo tequila business I don't think little Sammy boy is short of a bob or two, so I imagine any endorsements are not based on financial necessity. I also suspect that he's not missing the Van Halen bucks that much either.
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: AndyR on February 14, 2010, 01:08:49 PM
It's funny, I don't know much about Sammy Hagar since his live solo album in the late 70s early 80s. We thought it was ACE, and then a year or two later I heard the Montrose album that Space Station and Bad Motor Scooter came from and formed a slightly different opinion :lol:

I heard the first Van Halen album with SH on once, when it came out, and decided Van Halen was no longer for me... for all his, er, "wotever", Diamond Dave is still the man for me... He, and the groove that the rhythm section created on those early albums (and I include EVH in that rhythm section) are what made Van Halen so special. As a guitarist, the EVH stuff was obviously "wow!" to me, but not enough on it's own.

So whatever "Cabo Wabo tequila", and, er, "Chickenfoot" might be, I'm not entirely sure :lol:
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: shobet on February 14, 2010, 01:50:23 PM
Cabo Wabo, is a Tequila brand founded in the late 90s by Hagar. He recently sold an 80% stake in it for reportedly $80,000,000. I think he has some night-clubs or something with the same branding.
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: Ratrod on February 14, 2010, 07:06:24 PM
What, the metal jackplate?  I noticed it, but it doesn't bother me.  Do they still use plastic jackplates on most LP models? 

No, it's the knobs. The LP I had, had the pots mounted on a metal grounding plate so they were all at a 90 degree angle to the guitar.
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: Philly Q on February 14, 2010, 09:33:17 PM
Ah, I see what you mean.  Mine had a grounding plate too, but I think the knobs ultimately ended up parallel with the carve of the top.
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: _tom_ on February 14, 2010, 09:59:47 PM
Apart from the headstock I don't really see the problem with this guitar? :?
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: MisterMuncher on February 15, 2010, 12:10:12 AM
It reminds me of nothing so much as the old Slash sig. Epiphone, which had a similarly gorgeous red flame top, sadly marred with some utterly bollocks transfer on the lower bout.

For a bit, I thought thon headstock logo was a metal plate held on under the Tuner ferrules, which at least could have been removed. No such luck. Gibson, why must you so these things to us?
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: Sifu Ben on February 15, 2010, 11:12:41 AM
It's a fairly simple graphic on the headstock. People are going seriously overboard here. It's not like it's the reverse V. It's a failry nice guitar, and if you don't like the headstock logo, put a sticker over it.
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: Jonny on February 16, 2010, 11:38:10 AM
I was gonna bitch at pricing for a few sentences but £1,699 isn't that bad actually.
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: Matt77 on February 16, 2010, 12:31:46 PM
it just could have been good.
"Why must they meddle?" is my point.  :?
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on February 16, 2010, 01:00:42 PM
I like the look of the guitar - except the logo on the headstock

We have just done a refinish on a Les Paul in a similar colour - came out great

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/willcherrylp.jpg)
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: Matt77 on February 16, 2010, 01:03:07 PM
that's nice.
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: AndyR on February 16, 2010, 01:55:41 PM
Very nice. I like red guitars :D
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: Ted 'N' Leo on February 16, 2010, 05:58:29 PM
Very nice Feline, i've always fancied a cherry red Les Paul, like George Harrison's 'Lucy'.
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on February 16, 2010, 07:04:13 PM
Very nice Feline, i've always fancied a cherry red Les Paul, like George Harrison's 'Lucy'.

That was the picture he gave me to go by when he asked for the refinish
It looks a bit darker in real life - and the grain looks even better
We did the refinish to hide where a Bigsby had been too!
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: Philly Q on February 16, 2010, 08:52:49 PM
I do like LPs in non-sunburst translucent colours!  They're just unusual enough to really catch your eye and seem like something special.
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: Matt77 on February 16, 2010, 08:55:45 PM
I like a lot of the discontinued Les Paul Class 5s for the same reason
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: Keven on February 17, 2010, 06:25:59 AM
Very nice Feline, i've always fancied a cherry red Les Paul, like George Harrison's 'Lucy'.

That was the picture he gave me to go by when he asked for the refinish
It looks a bit darker in real life - and the grain looks even better
We did the refinish to hide where a Bigsby had been too!

wow. that's such a great job. it's really a shame i'm overseas. you brits (forgive me) really seem to kick ass in terms of good guitar making-fixing-repairs. i've already told MJW amps this on the forum. but damn. if i had a chance to go to ''britland'' i'd swing by your shop and get myself the les paul gibson can't build.
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: Ted 'N' Leo on February 17, 2010, 06:18:43 PM
Very nice Feline, i've always fancied a cherry red Les Paul, like George Harrison's 'Lucy'.

That was the picture he gave me to go by when he asked for the refinish
It looks a bit darker in real life - and the grain looks even better
We did the refinish to hide where a Bigsby had been too!

Ah, on closer inspection i can just barely see the one of the screw holes under the TOM on the left hand side, nice job!
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: AndyR on February 18, 2010, 01:34:24 PM
Are you sure? I looked real hard the other day, the minute I read about the bigsby, and then I realised I was looking at reflections of stuff.

I looked a bit longer after that and ended up deciding that I'm not convinced I can see any marks or screw holes in that photo.

:D
Title: Re: Gibson's latest abomination
Post by: Ted 'N' Leo on February 18, 2010, 06:02:27 PM
Could just be a reflection i'm seeing then. Fair does! I still contend its a great job though!