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Anybody here study any form of Martial Art?
It's something I've always wanted to do since I was a young teenager, I've just never got round to joining any dojos/classes.
My main problem is actually deciding what to take up. There is a Karate school near me which also holds classes in Karate and Kick Boxing. They also do weapons training in Bojutsu and Tonfa as well. Taekwondo and Tai Jutsu is also an option too.
Anybody here experts in martial arts? Just looking for some pointers in the right direction.
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Sifu Ben knows his shizzle.
I did Japanese Ju sitsu for a long time with a bad federation. I looked into getting back into something but i dont really have time
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It's important to decide why you want to do a martial art, is it for self defense, a form of exercise, or an interesting way to spend your Thursday evenings?
That will help you choose which is right for you.
FWIW I've done Tai Chi and Iaido.
Here are some links that can explain things better than I can:
(I recommend turning down the cheesy music on the videos!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iaid%C5%8D (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iaid%C5%8D)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byAgl-b2xFs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byAgl-b2xFs)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_chi_chuan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tai_chi_chuan)
http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=nprZhmfpH40&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=nprZhmfpH40&feature=related)
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Unfortunately, opinions about the "best" martial art are as varied as the best BKP for "teh Brootalz"...
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For my part I've studied Wing Chun for the last 10 years.
Before that I trained in Lau Gar kung fu, Shotokan, and a little Taekwondo.
From my experience, I'd say that you should visit as many clubs as you can. Also, make sure that you like your sifu/sensi/instructor - if you like the art you're going to be spending a lot of time and money with them, so you need to get on...
Mark.
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Thanks for the reply guys, I'll check out those links!
There are several reasons I wanted to take up a martial art. 1. for self defense, 2. to build my fitness up and 3. because I have a genuine interest in martial arts and always wanted to learn some form of it.
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I used to do Wado Ryu a while back. It's a traditional karate with none of the kung fu style arm waving........ it's more about knocking out teeth :lol:
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I used to do Wado Ryu a while back. It's a traditional karate with none of the kung fu style arm waving........ it's more about knocking out teeth :lol:
Careful with your generalisations, sir...
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From my experience, I'd say that you should visit as many clubs as you can. Also, make sure that you like your sifu/sensi/instructor - if you like the art you're going to be spending a lot of time and money with them, so you need to get on...
Mark.
Perfect advice.
I've done a few and advise you not to bother asking anyone which is "best"
Find a place with people you like, reespect each other and are supportive. Have F.U.N.! :D
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I used to do Wado Ryu a while back. It's a traditional karate with none of the kung fu style arm waving........ it's more about knocking out teeth :lol:
Careful with your generalisations, sir...
;)
Ha ha, my old housemate used to do Kung Fu and one day came home and shown me some of his moves, I just had to kick his arse all over the front room to show him what's what. :lol:
I quite like Kung Fu, there was a big club at uni and they were always good to watch.
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This is the best form of self defence:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv1bM0pp_o4
So just play more guitar and don't waste your time on Martial Arts. You'll think you can defend yourself but just get hit from behind by a bottle. At least with a Telecaster you can spin round very fast with it at arms length thus creating a large circular safety zone.
Yoga and running will take care of the rest :D
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Muay Thai (thai boxing) for a few years and a year of Kung Fu. Enjoyed both a lot, thai boxing is more accessible and easy to get to grips with, but brutally effective (emphasis on brutally). Kung Fu gives you more of that traditional martial arts experience, is also great fun but has a steeper learning curve.
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Ha ha, my old housemate used to do Kung Fu and one day came home and shown me some of his moves, I just had to kick his arse all over the front room to show him what's what. :lol:
Kinda like saying all guitars sound the same, because they're all guitars...
Kung fu (or more accurately, wushu) can be found all over China, and can be very internal a la Tai Chi/Chi Gung, or external, and very hard - Lau Gar for example is very much like Japanese martial arts.
Kung fu is too great a generalisation and a poor lable to apply to Chinese martial arts.
Mark.
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Kung fu is too great a generalisation and a poor lable to apply to Chinese martial arts.
Mark.
Agreed.
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I've also been thinking about taking up Martial Arts but the fact that I'm 38 and overweight makes me wary. I don't like the idea of having my fat arse kicked by school-kids. I went to one Karate class many years ago that was full of kids (forced to go by their parents) and middle-aged women (who were training like it was aerobics). I've lots of options, having done some searching for local clubs, just about every MA is available with 20-30min drive. I also know a guy who teaches Muay Thai, though we haven't spoke in sometime.
I've just finished reading The Pyjama Game: A Journey into Judo (excellent book) and has given me an interest in Judo, which I previously wouldn't have considered. It's the front-runner ATM. I've also watched Fight Quest on DVD (which was a little repetitive but worth a watch for MA fans) and IMO the most interesting episode was on Kajukenbo. Shame it doesn't seem to have caught-on, AFAIK there are no schools in the UK. They just really nailed the this-should-be-fun aspect of MA.
I'm currently doing lots of low-level fitness and dieting in an attempt to shed weight and kettle-belling to improve my core strength, as 12 years of sitting at a PC for 10-12hr everyday has destroyed my body. Why didn't I do this 10 years ago, it would have been so much easier :lol:
Isn't Tim a Hapkido instructor?
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Did about ten years of Aikido, but it's waaaay back now... stopped when my first daughter came in...
Lot's of ladies there too, which is not a bad thing I guess.... actually it would REALLY do me good to start again...
And despite looking pretty harmless and faked at times, I can assure you that it's very efficient once you got it and it also was the most exhausting training I ever experienced... maybe you have seen some early Steven Seagal movies... then you saw some moves applied... ^^
There are simply put two ways to apply it... the no harm above all... just exhaust your enemy, which is VERY hard and implies a great deal of routine, or... apply as much damage as possible with the smallest amount of energy... which is used by the japanese police for parts (I think they name it Aikijutsu, but don't quote me on that...), mostly meaning very complicated multiple breaks at and around the joints by handles, locks and throws, sending the bigger parts off while holding some others locked... or just moving parts against there natural direction... you do the math...
also did some Shotokan karate first, but in a real bad school, which put me off....
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Also been looking into it... waiting to have the free time for it though. Mixed martial arts seems to be a decent thing, got a few mates who go and enjoy it
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I joined a Shotokan Karate club when I started uni last October and I'm enjoying it a lot. Just graded up to 7th kyu :) Great overall workout as well as learning self defence and most of all it's a lot of fun and great way to release stress! Sure a lot of the stuff you learn isn't applicable in real fights straight away, but you're building core body strength.
I used to work full time, sat on my ass in front of PC for 10 hours a day but now I cycle to lectures every day and do Karate about times a week so my fitness has improved a lot.
I also did a bit of Aikido when I was little, for about 2 years, but got bored of it and quit. I wish I kept it up now.
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what kind of training do the police do?
saw a post on another forum about martial arts and someone said when it comes to defending yourself from real life fights, martial arts being not that much use since it's set pieces and countering other styles, especially with the adrenaline and emotion of a real fight (or something along those lines)
his recommendations being kick boxing and mixed martial arts, ones with regular sparring
what you guys think?
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If you want to get good at real fighting... Go out and get in a fight.
Then do it again & again. You will learn if you like it and get much better & more comfortable at it each time.
I found I don't like it much.
If you want to do a martial art that's a different thing altogether.
Don't fool yourself into thinking it has much of a relationship to "real fighting" though.
A quick wit, situational awarness and running will serve you better if after trying out "real fighting" you find like me that you don't like it. :?
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I joined a Shotokan Karate club when I started uni last October and I'm enjoying it a lot. Just graded up to 7th kyu :) Great overall workout as well as learning self defence and most of all it's a lot of fun and great way to release stress! Sure a lot of the stuff you learn isn't applicable in real fights straight away, but you're building core body strength.
I used to work full time, sat on my ass in front of PC for 10 hours a day but now I cycle to lectures every day and do Karate about times a week so my fitness has improved a lot.
I also did a bit of Aikido when I was little, for about 2 years, but got bored of it and quit. I wish I kept it up now.
Isn't Leeds Uni Shotokan the current Dojo of Sensei Ray Wilson and his son ? I studied under him in Armley back in the 70s.
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Y'see, it's all about application.
Afghan Dave is right, in a way - if you want to learn how to fight, go out and fight.
If a martial art is about walking up and down in rows doing single punches time after time, it might not work if your life was threatened...
But martial arts, or at least traditional martial arts, are about more than the physical, and this isn't really the forum to discuss that!!!
When you hit a certain level (and I don't mean that to sound condescending...) you take the art to the level that you need... when I train, I train with guys who are as experienced and as dedicated as me, and we train hard - that's not the same as fighting, but it's a tool for learning.
The guitar analogy - you need to practice before you hit the stage. The stage is a great place to learn, but you're a fool if you feel that you can do all of your learning there...
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I had a brief go at Wing Chun about 20 years ago, didn't much enjoy it, but I do find martial arts an interesting subject although I have no real interest in trying it again (I like the films too!). So this is an interesting thread from an "outside" perspective, reading your thoughts on different styles and philosophies.
A quick wit, situational awarness and running will serve you better if after trying out "real fighting" you find like me that you don't like it. :?
I'm pretty good at the first two. Guess I should keep working on the running. :wink:
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I joined a Shotokan Karate club when I started uni last October and I'm enjoying it a lot. Just graded up to 7th kyu :) Great overall workout as well as learning self defence and most of all it's a lot of fun and great way to release stress! Sure a lot of the stuff you learn isn't applicable in real fights straight away, but you're building core body strength.
I used to work full time, sat on my ass in front of PC for 10 hours a day but now I cycle to lectures every day and do Karate about times a week so my fitness has improved a lot.
I also did a bit of Aikido when I was little, for about 2 years, but got bored of it and quit. I wish I kept it up now.
Isn't Leeds Uni Shotokan the current Dojo of Sensei Ray Wilson and his son ? I studied under him in Armley back in the 70s.
I've no idea about that. I train with Cambridge Uni Karate Club. I do keep hearing about this Matt Price Sensei from Leeds though. I'll probably go train there few times during the holiday. Didn't know you did karate as well Derek thought you just did weight lifting.
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I joined a Shotokan Karate club when I started uni last October and I'm enjoying it a lot. Just graded up to 7th kyu :) Great overall workout as well as learning self defence and most of all it's a lot of fun and great way to release stress! Sure a lot of the stuff you learn isn't applicable in real fights straight away, but you're building core body strength.
I used to work full time, sat on my ass in front of PC for 10 hours a day but now I cycle to lectures every day and do Karate about times a week so my fitness has improved a lot.
I also did a bit of Aikido when I was little, for about 2 years, but got bored of it and quit. I wish I kept it up now.
Isn't Leeds Uni Shotokan the current Dojo of Sensei Ray Wilson and his son ? I studied under him in Armley back in the 70s.
I've no idea about that. I train with Cambridge Uni Karate Club. I do keep hearing about this Matt Price Sensei from Leeds though. I'll probably go train there few times during the holiday. Didn't know you did karate as well Derek thought you just did weight lifting.
Hiya Kaz . :)
I must apologise for my initial oversight, as I did not realise you were 'A Cambridge Man' :) - but should have guessed , as your manner. grace and intellect seemed to merit such.
I haven't practiced ( Shotokan ) Karate since the late 70's , albeit getting a chance to occasionally meet practitioners of Wing Chun - and other styles in the 80s. Back in the 70's , my all time favourite club, was a Shotokan club which met at an old church hall in Bradford, under the remarkable Sensei Walter Legge. Remarkable in that he was not only very adept, but also a very nice and ego - less guy. His physical appearance and mannerisms being somewhere between T.V. Detective 'Columbo' - and the craggy solidity of actor Charles Bronson. As a middle aged man, he was very tightly muscled . 'ripped' - and vigorous in his stride ; yet with this gentle and polite way of pushing you very hard. After that, many clubs became too commercial for my tastes - and much of the old 'true' spirit of Shotokan - and Karate-Do in general ( as exemplified by the example and wishes of Master Gichin Funakoshi ) seemed to erode fast.
The weightlifting (or any other physical condtioning I have since done ) still is carried out in the attitude of the Dojo and remains an extension of Karate skills and ethics. As martial artists everywhere will appreciate, you never 'forget' what you learn, nor does the spirit of your 'past art' ever leave you.
The reason I like weightlifting / strength training ( as opposed to my long past interests in Bodybuilding ) as an extension of that Dojo , is an ethos of absolute ( albeit relaxed ) concentration, NO dramatic shouts and grunts, beyond pressuring and releasing the 'air' in the abdomen , treating the body as one 'flowing' piece - and certainly NO dropping Deadlifts ! :lol: It's the same spirit as the Dojo, - for if I had to drop a Deadlift, then I had either not set my starting posture correctly ; or gone for a weight dictated by ego - that I could not truly control. Then there is the functional simplicity of squeezing every drop out of my 'Holy Trinity' of Deadlifts , Deep squats , Clean and press. One also 'practices' - not 'works out'. But one practices daily. Two sets of five reps or 3 x 3 being more the norm.
As all of it ( for me ) is an extension and expression of the Warrior spirit, I 'practice' little and often - and always in street clothes and barefoot or flat soled shoes. I do not go to failure in daily practice , but instead practice often and sustainably . To be more 'effective' than one appears , without outward 'show' - and resolve to continue developing that quality of lifting / striking power that comes from the exquisite balancing of tension and relaxation.
You can leave the Dojo, but if your heart is correctly orientated - the Dojo never leaves you. :)
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Kungfu has a steep learning curve, Karate and Taekwondo are more "accessible" if you want to say so.
If you just wanna kick the hell out of things, go with Karate/Taekwondo/Kickboxing. Kungfu is great - maybe the "King" of Martial Arts, but I quit because I didn't have time for it for more than 2-3 hours per week.
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The weightlifting (or any other physical condtioning I have since done ) still is carried out in the attitude of the Dojo and remains an extension of Karate skills and ethics. As martial artists everywhere will appreciate, you never 'forget' what you learn, nor does the spirit of your 'past art' ever leave you.
The reason I like weightlifting / strength training ( as opposed to my long past interests in Bodybuilding ) as an extension of that Dojo , is an ethos of absolute ( albeit relaxed ) concentration, NO dramatic shouts and grunts, beyond pressuring and releasing the 'air' in the abdomen , treating the body as one 'flowing' piece - and certainly NO dropping Deadlifts ! :lol: It's the same spirit as the Dojo, - for if I had to drop a Deadlift, then I had either not set my starting posture correctly ; or gone for a weight dictated by ego - that I could not truly control. Then there is the functional simplicity of squeezing every drop out of my 'Holy Trinity' of Deadlifts , Deep squats , Clean and press. One also 'practices' - not 'works out'. But one practices daily. Two sets of five reps or 3 x 3 being more the norm.
As all of it ( for me ) is an extension and expression of the Warrior spirit, I 'practice' little and often - and always in street clothes and barefoot or flat soled shoes. I do not go to failure in daily practice , but instead practice often and sustainably . To be more 'effective' than one appears , without outward 'show' - and resolve to continue developing that quality of lifting / striking power that comes from the exquisite balancing of tension and relaxation.
You can leave the Dojo, but if your heart is correctly orientated - the Dojo never leaves you. :)
hey forth feline, how often you mix up your sets? I don't know much on the differences of strength building VS mass building but most of my knowledge comes from the scooby workshop site and he seems to have a 4 week cycle with each week aimed at a specific amount of reps and rest to stop his body adapting
good to hear you practice good form :)
got my hands on a book the other day by an ectomorph for harder gainers, not started reading it yet but I'm hoping I can fine tune my knowledge rather than relying on what worked for those with gifted genetics
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The weightlifting (or any other physical condtioning I have since done ) still is carried out in the attitude of the Dojo and remains an extension of Karate skills and ethics. As martial artists everywhere will appreciate, you never 'forget' what you learn, nor does the spirit of your 'past art' ever leave you.
The reason I like weightlifting / strength training ( as opposed to my long past interests in Bodybuilding ) as an extension of that Dojo , is an ethos of absolute ( albeit relaxed ) concentration, NO dramatic shouts and grunts, beyond pressuring and releasing the 'air' in the abdomen , treating the body as one 'flowing' piece - and certainly NO dropping Deadlifts ! :lol: It's the same spirit as the Dojo, - for if I had to drop a Deadlift, then I had either not set my starting posture correctly ; or gone for a weight dictated by ego - that I could not truly control. Then there is the functional simplicity of squeezing every drop out of my 'Holy Trinity' of Deadlifts , Deep squats , Clean and press. One also 'practices' - not 'works out'. But one practices daily. Two sets of five reps or 3 x 3 being more the norm.
As all of it ( for me ) is an extension and expression of the Warrior spirit, I 'practice' little and often - and always in street clothes and barefoot or flat soled shoes. I do not go to failure in daily practice , but instead practice often and sustainably . To be more 'effective' than one appears , without outward 'show' - and resolve to continue developing that quality of lifting / striking power that comes from the exquisite balancing of tension and relaxation.
You can leave the Dojo, but if your heart is correctly orientated - the Dojo never leaves you. :)
hey forth feline, how often you mix up your sets? I don't know much on the differences of strength building VS mass building but most of my knowledge comes from the scooby workshop site and he seems to have a 4 week cycle with each week aimed at a specific amount of reps and rest to stop his body adapting
good to hear you practice good form :)
got my hands on a book the other day by an ectomorph for harder gainers, not started reading it yet but I'm hoping I can fine tune my knowledge rather than relying on what worked for those with gifted genetics
For me it's all in this book ; the one that absolutely changed my perspective and methods some years ago :
http://www.scribd.com/doc/3612825/Pavel-Tsatsouline-Power-To-The-People
Forgive ( and climb over ) the rather gimmicky marketing . The contents are pure enlightenment. I bought the hard copy version as well, but the above is handy for keeping the book 'mint'. I also get a great deal out of kettle bell usage ( The same author does a good book on that topic as well ).
If you are curious ( after reading the above ) - my own preference between using a series of 'Linear' - 'Step' - or 'Wave' training cycles - is the 'Step' cycle. All work, but in middle age - the 'Step' confers more advantages for me.
Beyond that, I had better not comment / list on the forum what / who I eventually found to be the best suppliers of 'hardware' - unless you wanted me to P.M. you away from the commercial interests of Tim's forum. Not that they conflict, but I don't want to advertise other folk's commercial interests on a free access site. :)
The above book cured me of traditional 'Bodybuilding' forever - even though there is a section in the attached book 'preview' that gives you a set / rep / % routine to gain the best of both size and strength worlds, if you so wish. I never fully understood / felt the best way to generate incredible tension, until I practiced the above - and likewise did not fully feel / understand the necessity of correct hip involvement in Olympic type deep squats / clean and Jerk / sprinting - until I spent sometime with the basic kettle bell 'swing'.
Out of secondary interest, articles and routines readily found on the internet by Dan John ( nice guy - and makes routines fun ) - Mark Rippetoe - and the guy that runs the 'Stronglifts- 5x5 ' website / forum / free e:book download are also valuable after you have understood and practiced the principles in the above..
HOWEVER , I would strongly recommend that you first concentrate on the attached item first and foremost , to better understand why all the other folks stuff works - and meanwhile be able to do it all most effectively on minimum equipment.
:D
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I have studied Sambo, Krav Maga and Taekwondo for several years and i personally found the most practical are sambo and krav maga.
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I have studied Sambo, Krav Maga and Taekwondo for several years and i personally found the most practical are sambo and krav maga.
Yes, If I started again it would be Krav Maga ; and nearly did enrol at a local 'club' last year, before other issues delayed that. I like the way that it encourages you to bring with you whatever benefits / skills you had gleaned from past disciplines. I also like how it is based on extensions of what one would tend to instinctively / naturally do - and 'cuts to the chase' of Urban self defence.
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ahhhh more reading :P
going to finish off this body builder fat burning book first, 350 pages!!! can't believe I'm up to the last chapter already
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I used to study Taijutsu; which is derived from Ninja arts and is also the discipline that the SAS are trained in, some time ago but the club I went to ended up with some attendance issues and so had to shut down in favour of a larger club that I wasn't able to get to on a regular basis.
I'd probably be blasted to pieces if I tried to re-start that one; it was very effective.
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Typical, first martial arts thread in ages and I'm on holiday :( I'll pitch in next week when I'm back
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I read it as marital aids...
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I read it as marital aids...
Well that's the 'buzz word' ...
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Dildonics is the next big thing.
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I'm not sure ; I think we should sit on that one ...
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I'm also quite skilled with "marital aids"
Though sadly I have been mostly training solo and emplying very few "Empty Hand" techniques. :(
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If anyone is near the Bristol area (specifically Dursley) and wants to try out Tae Kwon-Do a mate of mine owns/runs the Ilyokwan Black Belt Academy (http://www.blackbeltacademy.info/).
Tell Rik that Muttley sent ya. ;)
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I'm also quite skilled with "marital aids"
Though sadly I have been mostly training solo and emplying very few "Empty Hand" techniques. :(
Long ago, there was a "Private Shop" in Hemel Hempstead which advertised "Martial Aids".
I always assumed it was those little sticks held together with a bit of chain.
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i did ninpo for a long while, just took it up again, great martial art, but only in that it works for me, did some wing chun too, liked it a lot, they seemed really straight forward and practical, almost, sciency, treating body parts as levers, apply pressure here against the direction mobility etc appealed to the engineer in me
but you have to try loads, and there's no one best one (except mine :P)
im also interested in silat/kali. if you watch the bourne films thats the "style" that was used
ninpo is ninjtsu, but don't believe all that wearing black, mystical esoteric powers cr@p. the real ninja were peasants in mountainous and forest regions. they weren't assasins either. more like intelligence gatherers. think er.. SAS, can raise all hell but prefer not to even be seen inthe first place.
its brutal and nasty and doesnt look fancy in the slightest. it also isnt for everbody, there's no quick results and it can take 8 years plus to reach Dan. you wont be walking into the street and kicking peoples arses, in fact you can get thrown out for that.
stick at it for the long haul and you'll find your less likely to get into fights and more likely to avoid them. this is a good thing :)
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I've taken Kyokushin in the past and I'm currently taking Muay Thai/BJJ. I would say that for fitness and practical application a good boxing club would be great. Cardio workouts are insane in boxing clubs and in a fight a cross to the jaw and running are your best bet.
The club I belonged to in Winnipeg put on 2 tournaments in consecutive years with fighters from a variety of styles. And an art like Kung Fu that has a lot of "arm waving" in practice or forms becomes much less flamboyant in the ring and more like "kick boxing", for lack of a better description. One of the Kung Fu guys actually won fastest knockout prize. Kyokushin guys, for the most part, did the best as those leg kicks they use will really take it out of you. I made dvds of both tournaments and it's interesting to watch these vastly different styles become very similar in the context of a fight. I do think that MMA is really changing martial arts though... but that's a thread on its' own.
As far as off the beaten track martial arts I think the knife fighting art they used for The Hunted (with Tommy Lee Jones) was really interesting. One of the trainers for the movie had a good quote saying that in a knife fight one guy is going to the morgue and the other to the hospital. Good to keep that in mind in any street fight. (P.S. I've never been in one... I avoid those situations)
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The issue there Bird is that when you fight under a ruleset you do what wins under those rules. If you watch our guys fight at events with head punching or throwing it's a very different affair.
The "arm waving" usually represents clinch entries and throwing techniques, which is why they look odd.
However, kung fu is a generic term, and many styles have no arm waving, and some look fairly similar to karate.
Here's Taizhuquan, a Fujian Kung Fu system which is the root art for the styles that karate is descended from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8D3k17Ep08
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The issue there Bird is that when you fight under a ruleset you do what wins under those rules. If you watch our guys fight at events with head punching or throwing it's a very different affair.
The "arm waving" usually represents clinch entries and throwing techniques, which is why they look odd.
However, kung fu is a generic term, and many styles have no arm waving, and some look fairly similar to karate.
Here's Taizhuquan, a Fujian Kung Fu system which is the root art for the styles that karate is descended from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8D3k17Ep08
Knew you were itching to join in, Ben!
Mark.
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On a slightly different note. As someone on the outside, looking in at what's available, I've always wondered about 'internal' martial arts - is it for real? Do chi, ki, etc exist?
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On a slightly different note. As someone on the outside, looking in at what's available, I've always wondered about 'internal' martial arts - is it for real? Do chi, ki, etc exist?
Interesting question.
I think that people get confused with what "chi" actually is. Too much Star Wars mythology bullsh!t going on, I think.
Chi is about the essential stuff around us that we need to survive - air, water and food, sleep etc. You use all of these thing for health, not for breaking bricks with fingers etc.
I tend to think of chi as a model - it doesn't actually have to exist for it to be used for your benefit. Afterall, who's ever seen a Quark?
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Afterall, who's ever seen a Quark?
I have. They have it in Sainsburys.
(http://www.answerfitness.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/appel-farms-quark.jpg)
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[snip] Too much Star Wars mythology bullsh!t going on, I think [/snip]
Then why can't I find the droids I'm looking for :? :lol:
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[snip] Too much Star Wars mythology bullsh!t going on, I think [/snip]
Then why can't I find the droids I'm looking for :? :lol:
... these are not the droids you are looking for...