Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Twinfan on March 25, 2010, 11:35:15 AM
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New prototype 2 piece bridge on a Singlecut.
* Fretboard binding
* 24.5" scale length
* Two volumes, two tones
* Three way toggle
* Two piece, top wrapped tune-o-matic style bridge assembly
* Mahogany body and neck
* Maple top
Err, why don't they just call it a Les Paul and be done with it???????????
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y287/Sniper-V/5d326f2d.jpg)
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Have you ordered it yet? :lol:
I love the colour but I dunno... dare I say the top is just too extreme for me, and it's too glossy. I really like lived in guitars, as gorgeous as loads of PRS guitar are I would spend too much tiome cleaning them instead of playing them. I had an offer to swap my old looking '57 R.I LP for some cracking PRSi and even a Suhr but turned it down.
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It's really just another Singlecut/SC245 variant, but I am curious about the bridge and tailpiece.
Do they now think there's some inherent tonal benefit in the separate bridge/tailpiece as opposed to a wraparound bridge? And are these parts made out of some kind of "unobtainium" which makes them preferable to Gotoh, Schaller or whatever? (I think the squared-off corners are really ugly)
Personally I've come to the conclusion that I prefer the one-piece wraparound approach - it looks and feels better, it's much less fiddly and I think it sounds better too (although it's impossible to tell for sure without trying both on the same guitar).
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It's really just another Singlecut/SC245 variant, but I am curious about the bridge and tailpiece.
Do they now think there's some inherent tonal benefit in the separate bridge/tailpiece as opposed to a wraparound bridge? And are these parts made out of some kind of "unobtainium" which makes them preferable to Gotoh, Schaller or whatever? (I think the squared-off corners are really ugly)
Personally I've come to the conclusion that I prefer the one-piece wraparound approach - it looks and feels better, it's much less fiddly and I think it sounds better too (although it's impossible to tell for sure without trying both on the same guitar).
I hadn't even noticed the tail piece, yeah that's uglier than I am and that's saying something!
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I dunno what they're playing at Phil. They're trying to steal Gibson's heritage as far as I can see, what with their PAF wire pickups and nitro finishes too.....
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I still don't like their 4 knob layout. Would get in the way
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I still don't like their 4 knob layout. Would get in the way
I was like what are you on about but then realised it's different from regular Les Paul layout. Weird.
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I dunno why but I REALLY like that! 8)
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I dunno why but I REALLY like that! 8)
Because it's very "acceptable" - it's a Les Paul copy.....
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I still don't like their 4 knob layout. Would get in the way
I was like what are you on about but then realised it's different from regular Les Paul layout. Weird.
Didn't they originally wire it so the bridge pickup volume is closest to the player's hand - so it's almost like a left-handed Gibson control harness, transplanted into a right-handed guitar! Not sure if they carried on wiring it that way, it may have been too confusing.
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Err, why don't they just call it a Les Paul and be done with it???????????
Just rubbing their noses in it after winning the lawsuit :)
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Come on Dave, stop torturing yourself - buy it and get it over with :lol:
If you're looking for an excuse .......... how about ...... you've got several top end guitars, you've recently bought a "much lower price tag, making it a great working tool that I don't have to be paranoid about taking care of" ... err... how about you want one to play when there's an "r" in the month?? PDT_007
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I don't like this PRS - if I wanted a Les Paul, I'd buy one with the right name. A Gibson.
Oh, I did!
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I don't like this PRS - if I wanted a Les Paul, I'd buy one with the right name. A Gibson.
I wish PRS would make an alternative to a Les Paul, instead of just a bloody copy.
Thinner, lighter body..... fewer knobs..... basically a hardtail version of the old Singlecut Trem, or a singlecut version of the Custom 22. Oh wait, they stopped making that too. :?
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I think its great - in fact they should go further and do a P.O.S finish 1999 reissue with 'vintage' 25' scale length.
Makes my unbound old birds single tailpiece 245 ever more valuable in my eyes :lol:
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I don't like this PRS - if I wanted a Les Paul, I'd buy one with the right name. A Gibson.
Oh, I did!
so you'd only buy a les paul shaped guitar if it has Gibson on? hmmmmm strange post that
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Didn't they originally wire it so the bridge pickup volume is closest to the player's hand - so it's almost like a left-handed Gibson control harness, transplanted into a right-handed guitar! Not sure if they carried on wiring it that way, it may have been too confusing.
i have been known to do it backwards occasionally - just because it makes more sense to me to have the bridge pickup volume closest to the bridge and work out from there.
I have switched to doing it the other way because people expect it - but after just wiring my PRS a like for a mate he got really confused.... i re-wired his LP the other way round years ago, and he got very used to it :D
I like this - would still prefer it over a gibson for the few small improvements - full width tenon, modern styling etc etc... but the bridge definately could be more gracefull and still different to a normal TOM... just looks different for the sake of it at the moment
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I don't like this PRS - if I wanted a Les Paul, I'd buy one with the right name. A Gibson.
Oh, I did!
so you'd only buy a les paul shaped guitar if it has Gibson on? hmmmmm strange post that
Sorry - came out a bit wrong didn't it! :lol:
I was trying to say if I personally wanted a Les Paul type guitar I wouldn't look at PRS. For me, if I'm spending that amount of money, I'd want a good Gibson.
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I liked the original single cut. It was different enough from the Les Paul.
This just looks so wrong on so many levels.
And that top is way over the...eeehhhhmm... top.
I'd compare that guitar to a BMW boy racer car. It's all too much and overdone and you just know the owner must be a c--k.
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i don't really see what the problem is. it's not like gibson never nicked a shape off anyone else when they thought it was more popular.
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i don't really see what the problem is. it's not like gibson never nicked a shape off anyone else when they thought it was more popular.
They had a go at making a couple of superstrats back in the hair metal days, but I can't think of too many other shapes they've actually nicked (let's forget the Jimi Hendrix "Strat".... :? :P ). They mostly just make small changes to existing models in a feeble attempt to follow trends.
Going back to PRS, I guess making "copies" is what most other guitar makers, even high-end ones, do. But I always thought PRS became successful because they didn't try to follow the pack, they just made a few variations on a couple of basic designs and stuck to them.
Now they have far too many models, most of which are just microscopically-tweaked versions of previous ones, and just when you're getting used to them they're discontinued and replaced by something else. I mean how long did things like the SC250, SC245 and CE Alder actually last? They seemed to have the life cycle of mayflies. :?
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i was thinking of the les paul junior double cut... far as i'm aware, it was brought in to counter fender's strat, which looked a lot more modern. It's not an exact copy, by any means, but then neither is the PRS (though it's probably a bit closer to the LP than the LP junior is to a strat).
I forgot about the hendrix strat :lol:
And aren't PRS's double-cut models loosely based on the LP junior/special doublecutaway shape? THe early PRSes were very close to doublecuts in looks... Seems like they're not doing anything different. :lol:
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flipping round the firebird and adding a large scratchplate.... that was one of the most fendery moves on gibsons part, of the classic designs anyway. although the original firebird was also apparently a reaction to fender... they just went and made it a lot more fendery later
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I dunno why but I REALLY like that! 8)
Because it's very "acceptable" - it's a Les Paul copy.....
Nah, I just like the finish tbh!
I'd like it if it was on a V or an Explorer or a Strat etc. Just looks a bit 'classier' on a LP style imo
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If it didn't have that ugly look tailpiece then I'd like it. Would be better if the strings went through the body.
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I actually like that, it could do with being a bit less shiny but if they release it I'll have to go and try one.
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The Guitar Centers here have many new Gibsons and PRS pieces. Unfortunately Gibson has been taking heat over inconsistent quality for a while now. I am thinking PRS can build a better Les Paul that Gibson at the moment. I like the Double Cut Les Paul. Can't find those very often. And the PRS cheaper end guitars in that $600-800 range play pretty well. No fancy pimped out looking tiger striped tops. They have a reddish pink flamed top PRS at the store. It probably plays well, but it gets about as much playing time as the other uber feminine looking Music Man pink and purple Steve Morse guitar... I can't imagine doing a cover of "Ace of Spades" with either of those guitars...
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too glossy. too shiny. makes me want playing it with silk gloves, and that's not right.
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Nope...
Wouldn't mind seeing a different colour maybe, but that top, in that colour is pretty much "Next!" in my opinion...
I see what folks are saying about the tailpiece, reminds me of Meccano for some reason - wouldn't actually bug me though.
Overall, I've got no beef with it as a guitar. I can even see how with less flame and a nicer colour, that I might even be tempted to try one. There again, I'm no big fan of PRS anyway, and I'd be quite surprised if ever end up owning one of their guitars :lol:
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They have a reddish pink flamed top PRS at the store.
If that's a late 80's Bonnie Pink Custom 24, grab it......
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Well after years of saying that I wouldn't get a P RS Single cut, I bought the 82 10 top. Now Ive got the Crawlers, BK 550K pots and Paper-in-oil caps plus a set of Snake Oil Brand strings, I'm really liking it!
Here it is with my T-Top equiped Zemaitis Clone - btw that's what a a solid tailpiece that doesn't look like a Gibson one but looks classy, should look like! It is also a bit Les Paul shaped, but slimmer and the curves are different.
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af302/philking/ZEM_PRS_JTM_Splawn.jpg)
Here they are a bit closer
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af302/philking/Zem_PRS_Splawn.jpg)
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It looks a bit shiney in those pics, but out of those two, that Zemaitis clone looks like the one to pick up and plug-in for me :D