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Title: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: ToneMonkey on March 28, 2010, 03:48:18 PM
Just noticed this (while looking for last nights match of the day)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/events/theaxefactor/
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: Philly Q on March 28, 2010, 04:12:32 PM
It's certainly a "different" list.  Won't be very popular with the shredders.  :wink:

(http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/events/theaxefactor/images/axefactorbadge.png)
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: Ratrod on March 28, 2010, 06:33:14 PM
Don't know half of 'em.
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: maverickf1jockey on March 28, 2010, 06:46:14 PM
Only about two or three that I rate in any way whatsoever.

Kurt Cobain?
Matt Bellamy?
Jeff Buckley?
They are not what I would class as great guitarists.

Also where the hell are the blues players?

How can you have a poll for great guitar players that omits the big three British blues players; Beck, Clapton and Green?
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: Fourth Feline on March 28, 2010, 07:27:07 PM
I saw a list on the link ; but rather strangely, it did not contain a lot of those people  who I recognise to be guitarists .  :lol:

 It reminded me of a similar poll run in 1978.  I sat in the works canteen with my mate Dave ( an avid 70's Rocker ) - awaiting the results to be announced on a B.B.C lunchtime T.V magazine program.

You should have seen Dave's face when some bloke called 'Eric Clapton' - got placed behind 'Woody' from the Bay City Rollers ...     :evil:

AAAARggggghhh !   :lol:
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: Philly Q on March 28, 2010, 07:40:43 PM
I don't care that they haven't included my favourite players.  They're obviously not blues/rock/metal fans, but that's OK.  I'm more interested to see who they have included.

It's a list compiled by people who love guitar-based music but don't necessarily know (or care) about the technicalities of guitar playing.  Good for them I say.
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: badgermark on March 28, 2010, 07:50:37 PM
That's an excellent list of guitarists. They are all (except Slash and Hammett) good guitarists who deserve some recognition. I have no idea who I'll vote for, as there are a good 5 or 6 of them that are my favourite guitarists.
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: Plexi Ken on March 28, 2010, 08:29:21 PM
How can you have a poll for great guitar players that omits the big three British blues players; Beck, Clapton and Green?

Quote from the site...

Forty years on from their heyday, Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton continue to top 'Best Guitarists' votes. But what about Jonny Greenwood or Slash? Surely John Squire and Johnny Marr are every bit as influential as the greats from the 60s and 70s? Contemporary fret wizards are often over-looked, so we've come up with The Axe Factor - an endeavour to find the best guitarists of the last 30 years.
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: Fourth Feline on March 28, 2010, 08:52:14 PM
I don't care that they haven't included my favourite players.  They're obviously not blues/rock/metal fans, but that's OK.  I'm more interested to see who they have included.

It's a list compiled by people who love guitar-based music but don't necessarily know (or care) about the technicalities of guitar playing.  Good for them I say.

Fair comment Philly.  :)

I must confess , that the first and most obvious one for me ( As in had directly entertained me ) was Prince. I bought the 1999 album on it's initial release - and  the meltdown at the end of 'Let's go Crazy' made me a bit giddy at the time.

I still think the best thing he ever did - was  Sheena Easton .  :wink:
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: nfe on March 28, 2010, 09:14:22 PM
With the exception of one or two (And right enough, the few whom I'm not familiar with) I think they're all great players. As it happens, outwith jazz and classical music, there's very, very players from earlier whom I prefer to many of those, though there are lots of players from within the last 30 years who I like more than any selected.

Johnny Marr would be my pick.
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: maverickf1jockey on March 28, 2010, 09:55:13 PM
How can you have a poll for great guitar players that omits the big three British blues players; Beck, Clapton and Green?

Quote from the site...

Forty years on from their heyday, Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton continue to top 'Best Guitarists' votes. But what about Jonny Greenwood or Slash? Surely John Squire and Johnny Marr are every bit as influential as the greats from the 60s and 70s? Contemporary fret wizards are often over-looked, so we've come up with The Axe Factor - an endeavour to find the best guitarists of the last 30 years.
Didn't see that bit but Slash always places well in these polls anyway so why is he arbitrarily included?
Not only that but they have totally sidestepped people like Paul Gilbert or Steve Vai who are seriously big name players; regularly performing to sellout crowds in their respective bands.

Also why are the players almost exclusively taken from 'cool' bands?
Many of them are talented songwriters but not traditional guitar heroes by any stretch of the imagination.
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: dave_mc on March 28, 2010, 10:15:45 PM
i see they're running it like politics, where you don't actually want to vote for anyone.

(navarro or slash would probably be my pick out of those)
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: Will on March 28, 2010, 10:32:24 PM
i see they're running it like politics, where you don't actually want to vote for anyone.

(navarro or slash would probably be my pick out of those)

:lol: fair comment.

Noel Gallagher? ugh
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: Dmoney on March 28, 2010, 11:32:26 PM
I like some of the music those guys have been involved in.
J Mascis, John Squire, Stephen Malkmus. A lot of the music associated with those guys isn't my thing at all.

Then I'm not into blues played by Clapton or anyone, but I do like blues a lot.

Charlotte from Ash? what? urgh.
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: nfe on March 29, 2010, 02:29:29 AM
How can you have a poll for great guitar players that omits the big three British blues players; Beck, Clapton and Green?

Quote from the site...

Forty years on from their heyday, Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck and Eric Clapton continue to top 'Best Guitarists' votes. But what about Jonny Greenwood or Slash? Surely John Squire and Johnny Marr are every bit as influential as the greats from the 60s and 70s? Contemporary fret wizards are often over-looked, so we've come up with The Axe Factor - an endeavour to find the best guitarists of the last 30 years.
Didn't see that bit but Slash always places well in these polls anyway so why is he arbitrarily included?
Not only that but they have totally sidestepped people like Paul Gilbert or Steve Vai who are seriously big name players; regularly performing to sellout crowds in their respective bands.

Also why are the players almost exclusively taken from 'cool' bands?
Many of them are talented songwriters but not traditional guitar heroes by any stretch of the imagination.

Because it will predominantly be voted for by people who are into popular music. 99% (I don't even reckon that's much of an exaggeration) of the nations population haven't ever heard of Steve Vai or Paul Gilbert.
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: shobet on March 29, 2010, 09:10:55 AM
So which pole are they getting, is it Lech Wałęsa, the dead Pope or some peroxide blonde cleaning woman who has a penchant for putting her makeup on with a shotgun?
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: Fourth Feline on March 29, 2010, 09:39:39 AM
So which pole are they getting, is it Lech Wałęsa, the dead Pope or some peroxide blonde cleaning woman who has a penchant for putting her makeup on with a shotgun?

 :lol:

Damm !

The three most obvious ( yet qualified ) omissions from the list.  :o

My vote hovers somewhere between Prince - and the cleaning lady.  Same make up artist too .  :)
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: dave_mc on March 29, 2010, 11:48:19 AM
Because it will predominantly be voted for by people who are into popular music. 99% (I don't even reckon that's much of an exaggeration) of the nations population haven't ever heard of Steve Vai or Paul Gilbert.

democracy doesn't work, people!
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: Philly Q on March 29, 2010, 11:52:46 AM
Because it will predominantly be voted for by people who are into popular music. 99% (I don't even reckon that's much of an exaggeration) of the nations population haven't ever heard of Steve Vai or Paul Gilbert.

democracy doesn't work, people!

Are you advocating a dictatorship, Dave?  :wink:
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: MrBump on March 29, 2010, 12:19:11 PM
Because it will predominantly be voted for by people who are into popular music. 99% (I don't even reckon that's much of an exaggeration) of the nations population haven't ever heard of Steve Vai or Paul Gilbert.

democracy doesn't work, people!

Are you advocating a dictatorship, Dave?  :wink:

Dictatorships are fine, as long as I'm in charge.
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: Roobubba on March 29, 2010, 02:17:51 PM
Pole... it's close, although in some cases on that list, a spike may be preferable...
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: dave_mc on March 29, 2010, 03:47:25 PM
Are you advocating a dictatorship, Dave?  :wink:

nah, i kinda subscribe to the churchill quote.
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: dheim on March 29, 2010, 03:54:15 PM
dictatorships could even work (after all there's not much difference between receiving orders from a bunch of pricks or from a lone prick), as long as someone with a bit of sense is in charge. me, for example... :)
unfortunately my country is living a seamless transition from an oligarchic regime to autocracy, and given the utter idiocy of the autocrat in question results are fearsome.

(http://www.calvizie.net/images/docs/berlusconi_bandana.jpg)

off topic but true nonetheless...
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: Dmoney on March 29, 2010, 04:18:09 PM
your country is being taken over by Harvey Keitel?

(http://www.tvscoop.tv/harvey-keitel-thumb-405x282.jpg)
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: dave_mc on March 29, 2010, 08:45:56 PM
he looks more like a permatanned pirate.
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: Crazy_Joe on March 30, 2010, 12:27:16 AM
I voted John Squire from Stone Roses, love them. But honestly the list was fairly average.
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: Keven on March 31, 2010, 02:56:48 PM
I voted prince.

yes. Prince. he's a stunning player in his own right, and quite the composer arrenger producer evil mastermind. and few people can claim to have two stage names!
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: Philly Q on March 31, 2010, 03:05:32 PM
There are about half a dozen players on that list I really like, but I voted Bob Mould. 
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: cerpintaxt on April 01, 2010, 04:21:36 PM
I just had a look at this, and after the inital "Who? Who? WTF?" moments I got to Dave Navarro, Mike McCready and Omar Rodriguez Lopez. Phew - my bases are covered and I'm happy!

My vote goes to Mike McCready from Pearl Jam. This dude's soloing style owes a hell of a lot to SRV and Hendrix, even though Pearl Jam definitely arent a blues band.
Title: Re: BBC pole for best guitarist
Post by: Frank on April 04, 2010, 07:29:30 AM
what a shameful waste of the licence fee

"best guitarist" polls exist to enable 13 year old boys to settle playground arguments and they invariably end up being topped by some talentless toneless no-hoper who can play blisteringly fast but ultimately tasteless solos with an utter disregard for sublety. Or songwriting.

music is an art form, not a bloody competition or a popularity contest