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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Twinfan on March 30, 2010, 08:56:28 AM
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I've just dug out Live After Death and had it playing constantly last night while I was cleaning the house. It took me back 20 years to when I discovered it the first time :D
What a band, what a live video, what a stage!
"I want to be able to go to my hearing Doctor back home in London, and say - Doctor, Long Beach f*cked up my hearing for good, alright?!!!!"
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I listened to this a few weeks back after watching Flight666.
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It is their best live album by a long shot. I love Live After Death! It's the tour of my favourite Maiden album too (Powerslave). They are such a great live band too, they always give a solid performance. I've seen them twice but wish I could have seen them back in 1984.
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I was lucky enough to actually see them on this tour (Manchester Apollo IIRC). It was my first ever gig. My father dropped me at the front door (I was only a nipper) & picked me up afterwards. Great show.
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That album was where it ALL started for me... I know & love every second intimately. :D
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Me too Dave, me too!
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I used to spend hours staring at all the tiny photos on the inner sleeves of the record & leafing throught the booklet that came with it (I had the gatefold double-vinyl album - fantastic package) :)
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You're making me feel old guys!! :lol:
Me and my muso chaps saw them on that tour, and, er, we thought it was... umm... a bit boring! :lol:
The crowd were into it and all, but we just felt a bit left behind.
We'd seen them at Reading, the year before I think, when Lemmy and stuff jammed with them, and they were BRILLIANT. (I also saw them with Paul Di Anno, supporting the mighty Priest on the British Steel tour, but that was a little support set, and, to be honest, we didn't didn't think much...)
Anyway, Live after Death came out, I had to get it of course. It was fabulous value, and I thought it was ok... but for me it just didn't match up against the other two big rock live doubles at the time - Talk of the Devil and World Wide Live from Ozzy and the Scorpions, which seemed to have more tunes and songs to my ears.
It's Live after Death that made me realise I'm not really into dugga-dugga-dugga heavy rock/metal... There were some good bits (including "scream for me Long Beach!" :lol:) but they seemed few and far between amongst the riffing ...
So, I'd just about got over the fact that Guns and Roses, who I missed completely, and I regard as "youngsters", seem to have started off many younger people on here... And now I find that the album that turned me off metal is what got some of you, er, "more mature" chaps into music... hence it's making me feel old(er) :lol:
I'm having a few days off at the mo, I promise I shall get that gatefold sleeve double album out and give it a listen and a bit of a fondle tomorrow morning while waiting for the delivery man... who knows, I might see/hear hidden depths...
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As a big Maiden fan, I'm very jealous you saw them with Di'Anno (and Mr. Clive Burr!), Andy! :lol:
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Anyway, Live after Death came out, I had to get it of course. It was fabulous value, and I thought it was ok... but for me it just didn't match up against the other two big rock live doubles at the time - Talk of the Devil and World Wide Live from Ozzy and the Scorpions, which seemed to have more tunes and songs to my ears.
All three of those are great live albums! I'd have to agree about World Wide Live and Talk of the Devil (by far my favourite Ozzy album, generally I much prefer Maiden to the double-O).
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What a coincidence. Me and a work mate were talking about Live after Death on the way home form the pub last night.
It's my favourite Maiden album by a long shot.
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As a big Maiden fan, I'm very jealous you saw them with Di'Anno (and Mr. Clive Burr!), Andy! :lol:
I even got a drumstick from Mr Burr... and covered in sweat by Mr Harris...
More importantly, I was right at Mr Tipton's feet for possibly one of the best gigs I ever saw, certainly the best metal gig anyway. And it formed my life-long attachment to Judas Priest, through thick and thin, whether I likes me metal or not... :lol:
Iron Maiden were pretty good though. The amount (and type) of kit they had, and the time slot they had, really was "struggling support band"... but watching them, they did feel like an important act somehow. I didn't think much of Steve Harris at the time, he seemed incredibly arrogant and far too up front for a bassist... but on the other hand, he was about all the stage show they had!!
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Live After Death is one of my fave albums - the first section recorded at Long Beach Arena shows the band at the top of their game. The guitar tones are awesome, really really awesome.
The second part recorded at Hammersmith otoh is really not that great by comparison - shame.
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I just watched the Flight 666 doc tonight-great fun to watch. I've never really been a fan but I do respect them and I can see that they love what they do. Long may they continue doing it.
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I was lucky enough to actually see them on this tour (Manchester Apollo IIRC). It was my first ever gig. My father dropped me at the front door (I was only a nipper) & picked me up afterwards. Great show.
I was at that gig!
You probably saw me, I was the one with long hair and a denim jacket.
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I managed to listen to it the other day (once I'd figured out how to use my turntable - try using the on/off button at the back, andrew... :roll:).
It is indeed a very good live album. I think I agree with HTH about the Long Beach stuff being better, but the Hammersmith recordings are good as well.
I did manage to work out why they don't/didn't grab me as much as they could/should. It's poor old Mr Harris's bass-playing :lol:. It's very good bass-playing, and I couldn't come near it personally, but it gets a bit repetitive for me when he's going "dugga-dugga". I think it's all down to the fact that he's a fingers man in a riffing band. I love some of the stuff he does, but the "dugga-dugga" parts are too up-front for my tastes, and I think I'd prefer the bassist using a plectrum if he's going to play those parts for that long.
But having said all that, a) they wouldn't sound like Iron Maiden without his bass playing, and b) I suspect they wouldn't have got famous without his drive and musical input... so big respect to the bloke :D
The guitar playing on this album, and the sounds they were getting, are superb though...
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I agree Andy. 'Arrys bass playing can get a bit repetative at times, but I think he more than makes up for that with his playing on Rime of the Ancient Mariner!
Dave Murray's guitar playing is also very, very good on Live After Death. Dave is probably my favourite rock/metal guitarist.
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Dave Murray's guitar playing is also very, very good on Live After Death. Dave is probably my favourite rock/metal guitarist.
It's funny - I was a bit Murray fan back in the day, but listening to the stuff again now I'm in awe of Adrian Smith's melody and phrasing!
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...it gets a bit repetitive for me when he's going "dugga-dugga". I think it's all down to the fact that he's a fingers man in a riffing band. I love some of the stuff he does, but the "dugga-dugga" parts are too up-front for my tastes, and I think I'd prefer the bassist using a plectrum ....
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A pick? ... A pick you say?!! How could you? :)
My first hero in music was Steve Harris (my first real instument had to be a Fender P Bass + Badass Bridge)
(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff180/Afghandude/fenderpbassbody.jpg)
I've always really been an Adrian Smith fan. Adrian (sometimes with Bruce) has always been the "hit" maker, writing songs that carry the Maiden magic in a catchy and direct package - Wasted Years/Evil That Men Do etc...
I hated when he left in the 90s
Steve can sometimes get too epic in his writing for my taste ("Alexander the Great" :?)
Maiden need the balance.
"Up the Irons!!!!!"
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Dave Murray's guitar playing is also very, very good on Live After Death. Dave is probably my favourite rock/metal guitarist.
It's funny - I was a bit Murray fan back in the day, but listening to the stuff again now I'm in awe of Adrian Smith's melody and phrasing!
Yes!!
One of my all time fav solos -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rGt-v6Yh88#t=3m25s
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I've always really been an Adrian Smith fan. Adrian (sometimes with Bruce) has always been the "hit" maker, writing songs that carry the Maiden magic in a catchy and direct package - Wasted Years/Evil That Men Do etc...
I hated when he left in the 90s
Yeah, Adrian is the secret weapon. Good singer too.
Having said that, when he left and Janick came in I thought the band got some of their energy and aggression back, even though the songwriting didn't improve....
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Yes!!
One of my all time fav solos -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rGt-v6Yh88#t=3m25s
Awesome isn't it? I love this too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmxbKmiOJlU