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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: blue on April 20, 2010, 09:41:25 PM

Title: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: blue on April 20, 2010, 09:41:25 PM
there seems to have been a spate of new guitar days here lately, led by Dave with Francine and the '64 SG.  and now, following my bargain amp day last week, it's my turn! :)

didn't intend to buy a guitar, actually went in looking for fingerpicks to try as i'm getting sick of looking after my nails!  but, i ended up putting down a deposit, and now i've brought the baby home.

it's a 1965 Gibson Melody Maker D!

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii166/blue1million/DSC00825.jpg)

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii166/blue1million/DSC00828.jpg)

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii166/blue1million/DSC00829.jpg)

i've only had it home this evening, so i'll get to know it better over the next few days.  i look forward to getting a set of 10's on, it has very light strings at the minute, but even so it's one of the most acoustically loud solidbodies i've heard.  also, i think the tailpiece will be coming off, all it really does is get in the way!  the bridge is a wrapover, so that's no problem.  the neck is chunky, but certainly not unmanageable, but it's pretty much in need of a refret.  i'll report back on just how it sounds with fresh strings and an amp properly cooking :)
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: Philly Q on April 20, 2010, 09:45:54 PM
Nice one Blue!  Welcome to the '65 Melody Maker club!  :D
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: blue on April 20, 2010, 09:51:38 PM
thanks Philly :)  it's not a guitar i ever thought about before, but now that i've come across it, i really like it
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: dave_mc on April 20, 2010, 09:52:04 PM
nice one :D

that landscape looks familiar. I don't mean that i'm stalking your house, but that's just instant northern ireland. green fields, broom-type hedges and grey skies. :lol:
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: roland_rat on April 20, 2010, 09:57:37 PM
Very nice conrats on the guitar. It really does look a nice one.

Enjoy :P
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: Philly Q on April 20, 2010, 10:01:08 PM
Interesting what you said about the acoustic volume, mine's exactly like that. 

I wonder if it really is the effect of ageing, or did it already sound great back in '65, or is it a bit of both?
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: blue on April 20, 2010, 10:02:17 PM
nice one :D

that landscape looks familiar. I don't mean that i'm stalking your house, but that's just instant northern ireland. green fields, broom-type hedges and grey skies. :lol:

haha, i know what you mean, and i just missed a tractor in that picture! :D
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: dave_mc on April 20, 2010, 10:02:40 PM
^ hehe  :lol:

^ ^ i'd say it's the cloth-wrapped stand. never underestimate that. ;)
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: d1dsj on April 20, 2010, 10:03:33 PM
Fantastic, nice find. When ever I see a genuine vintage guitar or amp I always wonder where it's been, what it's seen and what's been played. Very nice, enjoy.  8)
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: blue on April 20, 2010, 10:05:43 PM
Interesting what you said about the acoustic volume, mine's exactly like that. 

I wonder if it really is the effect of ageing, or did it already sound great back in '65, or is it a bit of both?

interesting question Philly.  unfortunately, without a TARDIS we won't be finding out! :)  it really is remarkably loud though.  i don't know how quickly a guitar ages, but my Les Paul Standard, which i bought brand new 6 years ago, does seem to be louder and fuller sounding now.
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: blue on April 20, 2010, 10:18:59 PM
Fantastic, nice find. When ever I see a genuine vintage guitar or amp I always wonder where it's been, what it's seen and what's been played. Very nice, enjoy.  8)

oh, i agree totally with that!  that's yer mojo right there! :)  it's also a bit intimidating, thinking they were probably all much better players, and the guitar's thinking "how the hell did i end up with this idiot!"  :)
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: horsehead on April 20, 2010, 10:25:57 PM
what the hell is that thing!
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: blue on April 20, 2010, 10:34:03 PM
what the hell is that thing!


it's a cr@ppy cheap beginners' guitar from the '60's that fools like me hand over silly money for these days  :D
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: Ian Price on April 20, 2010, 10:39:49 PM
Congratulations. Totally not my style but well done anyway!
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: Philly Q on April 20, 2010, 10:47:37 PM
what the hell is that thing!


it's a cr@ppy cheap beginners' guitar from the '60's that fools like me hand over silly money for these days  :D

True, but they're not really cr@ppy in the slightest!!  Dare I ask how much it cost?

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/melody02.jpg)
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: blue on April 20, 2010, 10:52:05 PM
ooo, the big question!  it was £900.  i was very unsure, but from ebay that seems to be around the going rate.  i would have preferred cherry over the fire engine red, but all the lacquer checking is very cool.  just a pity i can't see the wood grain, which i would have with the cherry.

yours looks lovely Philly, looks very well preserved!
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: Philly Q on April 20, 2010, 11:09:09 PM
That sounds about right price-wise, from what little I've seen.  Mine was £600, but that was 11 or 12 years ago.

I'd guess yours has more original parts than mine!  The scratchplate, pickup and strap buttons were original, but that's about all.  I don't think it's been refinished, but oddly enough there's almost no checking at all.  The finish on the neck is more discoloured than the body, but still in good nick.
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: TheIronBeast on April 20, 2010, 11:56:05 PM
Nice find! I am a big fan of simple guitars, always loved the look of Gibson Melody Makers and Les Paul Jr's.

Congrats on the new guitar, it looks great.
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: viking on April 21, 2010, 01:27:45 AM
Congrats!How are the Pu's?Are they single coil ,from Gibson?
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: 38thBeatle on April 21, 2010, 06:25:09 AM
Congrats. I know they are great guitars judging by the couple that I have come across over the years.
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: Plexi Ken on April 21, 2010, 10:44:11 AM
Lovely, I also a fan of 'simple' guitars (and amps too)  :oops:
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: blue on April 21, 2010, 11:02:13 AM
the pickups are single coils, and they pick up a lot of hum!  at the minute they're quite far away from the strings so a bit weak sounding, but i'll adjust everything when i change the strings.  the basic tone sounds good, just a little lacking in output.  hopefully heavier strings and a height adjustment will sort that out. 

it's just occurred to me, would this guitar be made with Honduras mahogany and Brazilian rosewood?  it's not terribly important, but it would be kinda cool if it was
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: Roobubba on April 21, 2010, 11:40:31 AM
Whoa, Philly - that looks like about 1 foot of wood between the bridge and the bottom end of the guitar!

All that wasted string space! :)
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: Johnny Mac on April 21, 2010, 12:30:40 PM
Another nice find Blue, well done. I can lend you a flux capacitor if you need to know more about it! Have fun  :D
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: Philly Q on April 21, 2010, 12:50:35 PM
Whoa, Philly - that looks like about 1 foot of wood between the bridge and the bottom end of the guitar!

All that wasted string space! :)

It's true, you could probably make a Barry Tone version of the same guitar without changing the overall length.
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: blue on April 21, 2010, 12:53:52 PM
oh yeah, Philly, it is, as far as i can tell, all original.  even the little plastic strap buttons, although the bottom one is broken. 
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: shobet on April 21, 2010, 01:02:47 PM
Congrats, that's a nice looking one.
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: Philly Q on April 21, 2010, 01:06:59 PM
oh yeah, Philly, it is, as far as i can tell, all original.  even the little plastic strap buttons, although the bottom one is broken. 

There you go then, £900 has to be a good price I reckon.  :)

You see those Maestro trems alone going for £200-£300 on eBay (vintage ones, I mean).
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: blue on April 23, 2010, 11:26:09 AM
interesting discovery #1

my plan was to take off the maestro tailpiece whenever i get around to changing the strings.  the silly little arm just gets in the way, and it won't stay tightened and keeps banging against the knobs.  in a moment of sleep deprived inspiration i thought "i wonder does the arm from a stetsbar fit that hole?"  and it does!  suddenly, the maestro is actually usable!  i may keep it on after all
Title: Re: NGD; The Madness Continues!
Post by: Philly Q on April 23, 2010, 08:35:16 PM
So how does the Stetsbar arm attach?  Is it just a screw-in?

Looking forward to interesting discovery #2.  :D