Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: CaptainDesslock on May 11, 2010, 05:58:50 AM
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Sooo..............................................................
Mansons' has there new BKP sets-
http://mansons.co.uk/news/news-item/62.html
(http://mansons.co.uk/news/news-item/62.html)
Tim tells me they are Bridge DC15K ceramic, neck DC12K Alnico V both twin screw coil design.
How do you guys think they'll stack up to the rest of the BKP lineup?
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Interesting...the 15k, tripple ceramic mag double hex bridge all matches with the aftermath. Maybe they're the same, or related
I do want an explanation as to why they put a hypon in 'djent' though :lol:
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Interesting...the 15k, tripple ceramic mag double hex bridge all matches with the aftermath. Maybe they're the same, or related
I do want an explanation as to why they put a hypon in 'djent' though :lol:
jeepers just posted 2 seconds ago!!?!?!?? aren't you all sleep across the pond at the moment :P?
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I sleep-post.
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I do want an explanation as to why they put a hypon in 'djent' though :lol:
So to be honest, when they say they'll "delight the player to whom the word "d-jent" needs no further explanation", that player probably doesn't exist! :lol:
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Indeed!
They arent aftermaths, very different, I checked.
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I do want an explanation as to why they put a hypon in 'djent' though :lol:
So to be honest, when they say they'll "delight the player to whom the word "d-jent" needs no further explanation", that player probably doesn't exist! :lol:
Yep, I need further explanation - what's a d-jent, or djent, when it's at home?
And, come to that, what's a hypon MDV? Is it like a hyphen for exclusive use between a "d" and a "j"?
:lol: :wink:
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Touche! :lol:
In all fairness, spelling isnt my strong suit - basically I can do it well enough to notice when punctuation is in a word, and it shouldnt be :lol:
'Djent' is an onomatopea (chances of having spelled that correctly approximate zero!) for the sound of bashing often unmuted notes in a percussive fashion with lots of stocatto (also likely misspelled!) and highly accentuated attack and short decay in the tone, especially the low end ('tight'), found in some modern metal stylings, best represented to my mind by the mighty Meshuggah.
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Ahhh! That makes perfect sense... thanks for that
And I agree, in that case, there should be absolutely no hypons or hyphens or anything else between the d and the j :lol:
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Quite welcome
Tim also alluded to a mistake in the spec - its not tripple magnet, but I dont know in what fashion and he didnt elaborate, and I didnt ask because I only really called to ask if it was the aftermath or not, and its not; very different pickups.
'Isotropic' neck pickup got my attention too - isotropic means 'the same in every direction'. It doesnt look like a homgeneous sphere. Confusing. But tim referred to it as a symmetrical wind - as in both coils have the same number of turns, the same as the majority of humbuckers out there :lol: (and I think unique for BKs; they're all asymmetric as far as I know).
Advertising 101 - give something mundane a flash sounding name and hope people are suitably dazzled and unquestioning :lol:
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'Isotropic' neck pickup got my attention too
I wondered about that too. It sounded like a sports drink or something to do with sunbathing.
Thanks for clearing it up Mark.
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Any time
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it's not the pickup that is isotropic
it's the magnet
alnico V is usually anisotropic (produces magnetic output in one direction only), while the weaker alnicos (2, 3, 4) are usually isotropic
acording to Tim Shaw, old alnico 5 bars back in the 60's pafs were unoriented, so they sound more like alnico 2
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:lol:
Fair enough, I can accept the convention in terminology (its an idiotic convention, though; if a magnet were actually isotropic, it would just be a dumb metal - for it to generate a magnetic field...the physics isnt the simplest around, we'll just say that certain properties of neighbouring atoms must be aligned, therefore non isotropic, but its not the dumbest name for anything I've ever seen). Isotropic magnets seem to be magnets where they are weakly aligned and realigneable or few are aligned, and in both cases 'isotropic' is wrong; its not. Anything that has or creates a magnetic field is definitionally not isotropic, in the proper sense of the word (like, how sciencey types use it :lol:)
I chuckled though, because tim just called that effect an "Aged magnet" - weakened artificially to take boom out of the low end.
Advertising rule 101...
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Interesting info and lots of laughs, as always on the BKP forum...
I saw these and immediately thought "Aftermaths?" and decided to check in on here what the deal is. So they don't have 3 magnets, medium output, but have an automatic staccato feature so they don't DJENTDJENT DJENT DJENTDJENTDJENT but rather D-JENTD-JENT D-JENT? Suhweetttt :lol:
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Djent is my very favourite recent musical term, and it's already a dying genre. There's only so long people can be arsed with Meshuggah rip-offs and pretentious music-students bleating on about polyrhythm without understanding what it is, I guess :lol:
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Advertising 101 - give something mundane a flash sounding name and hope people are suitably dazzled and unquestioning :lol:
Oh wait, where have I seen that concerning pickups before....*cough*
"A true beast and heavy as hell itself. Monstrous bass response coupled with mid range grind and bite.
The WARPIG............"
"Chaos in a pickup. No nonsense attitude for huge, aggressive and harmonically rich assault. The NAILBOMB..........."
"The Metal God in a pickup. Serious grinding crunch for the true believers. The PAINKILLER......"
Yeah, I'd wager those were BKP's worst offenses :P
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There can only be one meshuggah, too many pretenders dont seem to realise that.
The blurb on the bk pickups isnt exactly the same thing though, even though I was wrong and isotropic is (an eroneous) term to describe weakly magnetised and de and realignable magnets. The point remains - tim just called it 'aged', which is both simpler and more accurately desctiptive (pickups demagnetise over time), and even said why; to take out boomy low end, the manson page doesnt mention that.
I've always found the stuff on bks pickup pages very much at odds with the detailed and mechanistic descriptions of the pickups sound and how they do what they do that you get from tim directly when you talk with him about them, but one can forgive some hyped up blurb as a lead in to generate some enthusiasm and interest.