Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Tech => Topic started by: MrBump on May 28, 2010, 02:26:02 PM
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If so, how did it sound?
Mark.
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Not tried it, but I've always assumed it would affect the sound, because in a bolt-on joint the neck and body are actively being pulled together, whereas in a glued joint they're just kind of sitting there.
But... there was an interview with Paul Reed Smith in Guitarist a month or two ago, and I think he said in his opinion the type of joint doesn't make much difference.
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Ritchie Blackmore glued his in - mainly to stop the 3 bolt neck from shifting around in the neck pocket
But his was glued AND screwed
I dont think it will make a HUGE difference to a well fitted neck but I thinkit may add a touch to the coupling of the two parts and add to the resonance a bit
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Surely glueing it without also screwing it would be inherently unstable as there's no tenon & far less contact area than even a short tenon Gibson joint?
Fender did offer a set neck strat in the early 90s - it was a gorgeous guitar (I nearly bought one), but the heel/joint bore little resemblence to the bolt on strats...
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Surely glueing it without also screwing it would be inherently unstable as there's no tenon & far less contact area than even a short tenon Gibson joint?
not so sure
The fender pocket has a wide base and 2 sides - the end doesnt count as end grain glue joins are very weak. anyway. Its relatively easy to get these 3 gluing faces to fit together really well and it provides more than enough surface area for a good join. it works on PRS and les pauls juniors (the lip on LPJ on the treble side doesnt add much stability over a similar join without lip). it actually ends up very similar to the surface area on a doublecut PRS - they have it extending into the neck pickup cavity, but they also have more of the neck free of the body.
With gibsons traditional tenon you have 5 seperate gluing surfaces that all need to be carefully fitted. together those gluing surface amoung to a similar area as the fender pocket - but they have the problem that its much harder to get them all fitting perfectly - and we have pics proving gibson dont always get that right. a full with tenon is much easier to fit accurately
having said all that, there are issues with gluing a fender neck in.
1. Finish - any finish or sealer on body or neck will hamper attempts to glue them together.
2. Manufacturing - often they have a little wiggle room - fine for bolt on necks but not for gluing in, you need a nice tight join - preferably one where you could dry fit the body and neck and pick it up without the body falling off.
3. heel shape - it aint pretty as it is
a lot of these problems can be overcome if making from scratch.
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Cheers, guys - interesting stuff.
I was thinking about "stratty" sounds, and thinking that the bolt on setup must make it sound in a particular way... then I got to thinking about all sorts of things, like shortening the scale length, adding P90s instread of traditional strat coils... then I had to go lie down and have a rest.
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I was thinking about "stratty" sounds, and thinking that the bolt on setup must make it sound in a particular way... then I got to thinking about all sorts of things, like shortening the scale length, adding P90s instread of traditional strat coils...
... and you ended up with an SG Special.
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^ Hah!
Well, yes. I guess...
I actually have a template for an LP Junior at home, just waiting for me to get my arse in gear...