Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: nfe on June 06, 2010, 01:49:39 PM
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Right, I have a hankering for a guitar wth a floyd rose on, simply to let me play some daft solos in one of my bands. It will probably only get used in the studio, and it'll only be for a few songs, so I don't want to spend a fortune, but I still want a decent guitar. I've long considered building a warmoth of some kind, so maybe that's teh route to go down?
Somewhere in the region of £500-800 bucks, I think.
Ideas, guys?!
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For that money, I'd search for a second had guitar, on which the floyd bridge is a good one. OR, what I would do, buy one of these: http://www.felineguitars.com/shop/shop_guitars.html (http://www.felineguitars.com/shop/shop_guitars.html).
What I've read about Feline's work, you'd certainly get a really well playing axe. They're all ALMOST within your price range 8)
-Zaned
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I've actually spoken to Jonathan a few times about building a guitar, and feel a wee bit bad I've ended up plumping for other things.
If I was buying from a luthier who would build to my own spec though, I'd end up way over budget :lol:
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Jonathan mentioned on another thread this morning that he'll sell that brown sunburst Gunslinger for £599 if anyone's interested:
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=21421.0 (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=21421.0)
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I think the best thing with a 'floyd' (not really a floyd) you can get for that price, and almost any other price for that matter, is an 80s or early 90s RG.
The guitars were very well made from decent woods and come with Edge 1s, whcih are as good as OFRs/scallers/gotohs, easily.
I have an 89 RG560 and the 21 year old edge on it is still rock solid.
Best part - I got mine for £100. You can normally expect to pay 300 to 400 for a 560/50/70 thats in good nick, but as mine proves, they can be found lower and they're probably the best bang-for-buck metal guitars on the planet.
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I've actually spoken to Jonathan a few times about building a guitar, and feel a wee bit bad I've ended up plumping for other things.
If I was buying from a luthier who would build to my own spec though, I'd end up way over budget :lol:
Did you look at the link I posted?
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seems a few of us have been looking at similar things. Gunslingers and tha'.
I've been looking at a few gunslingers and charvels. I don't know much about what is good or not when it comes to these guitars.
What I have found that is interesting, sort of, is the Kramer Pacer Classic. which is a new gibson/kramer pacer.
(http://www.kramerguitars.com/images/Model-Spec-PacerClassic.jpg)
that things is £249
Licensed Floyd and probably cheaper end of electronics.
Body is Mahogany though, which intrigues me.
If you got that, and a floyd rose original to replace the trem, you'd still be under budget.
if you change the pots and BKP it you'll bit at a mid point in your costings i guess.
whats gettin' at me is, is it worth putting a better trem etc on a guitar that only cost £249 to begin with, and how good is the body and neck? I can't find much about these really, and people seem to complain about them being poor set up rather than anything else.
I prefer the body shape to the gunslingers and charvels that are 1H1S with floyds and such.
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Another good guitar to look for is a secondhand
LTD m350 or m300
they are awesome for the money
mahogany body maple neck thru licenced floyd they sometimes go for as little as 250 but 300ish is the average asking price
theres a white washburn in a local shop which looks decent for about 200 if i remember correctly
it was quite similar to a RG bridge hum neck single
ill take some pics on my way back from work tomorrow and get more details if you want
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One of the new charvels? really can't go wrong at the price. guy over on rigtalk has sanded his down to the wood and is oiling it up, going to look superb
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I'll chip in a good word for Maverick F1's - if you shop around on ebay you can get one in good condition for under 200 quid, maybe a bit more if you want a fancy colour. At that you could replace the pickups and trem within budget, though personally I was quite happy with the trem on mine anyway.
Plenty of good options, it probably depends what sort of neck you get on with best as much as anything.
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You can't go wrong with a Jackson Dinky IMHO.
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I'm selling my Japanese Charvel for alot less than the lower end of your budget! :lol:
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This.
(http://machinehead.co.uk/images/sh2-lg.jpg)
http://machinehead.co.uk/product_info.php/cPath/38_116/products_id/2290
It's so rare too. I owned one and I really REALLY regret selling it.
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I bought an Ibanez RG320FM to experiment with a locking trem and that has the supposedly dreaded Edge III trem. It's never let me down and cost less than £300.
Alternatively for a little over your budget £900 I believe you could buy a custom job from these fellows.
http://www.stormshadowguitarworks.com/HOME.htm
I've been tempted to try one but I've had other priorities, seems too good to be true but I've not found anyone saying anything bad about them yet.
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i think he means his budget is £500, which converts to 800 bucks (i read it wrongly first time too).
I would say don't cheap out too much on the floyd- you want to make sure you're getting a decent floyd, or it eventually won't hold tuning, and probably won't sound too amazing either (cheap sustain block). you can get guitars with FRT-1000s in your price range (i think they're asian-made OFRS to the same spec, but I could be wrong), you could maybe sneak an ibanez rg1570 if you're lucky, too. Up to you, really.
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Thanks for the ideas guys. I had an old RG once upon a time and it was a swell guitar, certainly.
I think lots of ebay hunting is afoot.
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How about get a ibanez xiphos, it has a edge 3 in it and then whip in some BKP, admittedly it will cost more than you would like to spend, but sounds sweet
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Early/mid 90s Jackson Professional, the Japanese built ones. I have a 92ish Fusion and it's bulletproof. Licensed FR is rock solid, only needed a pickup swap (I stuck a DIMarzio in it in 93, not BKPed yet).
Personally I don't like the 6 string RGs, or rather the necks - the Jackson is a bit fatter & flatter. YMMV, obviously! :)
Note: I've seen a couple of Concept series on evilbay. These are fantastic too.
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I picked up a 1990 RG560 for 200 recently, shop around bargains are to be had!
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One of the old 80's Charvels? I've got the thru neck HSS one the model 6. It's superb, even better after Feline put bkps in it and re- fretted it.
You should be able to pick one up for under £500. It's a buyers Market now.
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Another +1 on Jap RG's.
Ive got a 91 RG550, plays mean, original Edge trems are every bit as good as OFR's.
Really want one of the Desert Yellow 20th anniversary ones now though.
also the old kramers are good, can find them pretty cheap sometimes. I have a focus 1000 which is the japanese version of the baretta, single HB and OFR. Stay away from the striker series though, and also the newer gibson made ones are apparently really pox and should be avoided.
I picked up another kramer a while back, George Lynch protoypte from before he swapped to ESP.
(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee282/muzz989/DSC04316.jpg)
family shot of my floyds
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I've a possibility floating about which I'll hopefully be able to go for, the details of which will be revealed if it works out...