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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Twinfan on June 07, 2010, 09:00:09 PM
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Just watched the programme from Saturday night - how awful were the Led Zep tribute?
Truly shocking...
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Just watched the programme from Saturday night - how awful were the Led Zep tribute?
Truly shocking...
Yeah, they weren't overly great!
I was very surprised that Zep came out ontop of the pole for the best band; I thought the obvious winner would've been The Beatles
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Zep probably are the best RnR band I guess. The Beatles would win best band, period....
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The Beatles were a $%&#ing bunch of useless talentless ####!!s.
Queen, on the other hand, won Britain's Favourite Band a few years ago if I remember. At least they had talent!
The Beatles are down there with traffic wardens, telecasters, mashed potato and middle-lane drivers. Where's my shotgun?
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beg to differ roo, beatles very talented,especially as songwriters, i don't particularly like them however.
now led zep, i never did see, but the live footage i've seen of them, esp on live aid? makes me think that they
weren't that good, very often sloppy and second rate(as a live act).obviously they could write and do great studio work,but as a live act...not so sure.has any one here seen them live in their hayday? i like them very much by the way.
i'm with you all the way on queen though, who epitomise(d) a top live outfit and could write/record.
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beg to differ rhoo, beatles very talented,especially as songwriters, i don't particularly like them however.
now led zep, i never did see, but the live footage i've seen of them, esp on live aid? makes me think that they
weren't that good, very often sloppy and second rate(as a live act).obviously they could write and do great studio work,but as a live act...not so sure.has any one here seen them live in their hayday? i like them very much by the way.
i'm with you all the way on queen though, who epitomise(d) a top live outfit and could write/record.
I used to feel the same about Led Zeppelin. Have a go at the "DVD" package from a couple of years ago, or the 3 CD "How the West was won" that came out at the same time... you might start thinking "I just wish..." :lol:
I remember Jethro Tull saying that (LZ) on a good night were very, VERY, VERY good, but on a not-so-good night could be utterly horrible (and that was in their heyday, not later on).
But I have to say that although I reckon Led Zeppelin was something very special, my favourite band is probably Queen (and The Fab Four obviously :lol:)
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i'll try and look it out andy, so many poeple can't be wrong.some bands have good nights and sensational nights
but i've not found anything better than mediocre (so far) on zep.on the live aid show page had a rotten time trying
to rip it up on his own between songs, i mean embarrasingly bad, i was shocked! i think page is overated, but he
still did some glorious stuff.as a band they're still exceptional just because of the volume of good stuff they produced.
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so many poeple can't be wrong.
WRONG
There are SO MANY examples that discount this hypothesis, from Nazi Germany, through fast food outlets to the multitude of arseholes who drive in lane 3 of the M25 between J10 and J8, thereby reducing a 4-lane motorway to a 2-lane motorway.
Just because something is popular doesn't make it any good!
This is one (admittedly of many) of my major gripes about people banging on about the $%&#ing Beatles. The one solitary redeeming feature of those tosspots would be Ringo's Thomas the Tank Engine gig. There, I said it.
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Of the 3 in the running my personal favourite is Queen, but I just thought, for 'most' people atleast, the obvious choice would've been the Beatles!
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Roo - you're not seeing the bigger picture. The Beatles were so influential not just because of their music, which is a personal like or dislike, but the way they influenced modern culture/recording techniques/celebrity/media following/promotional techniques etc.
You can't deny that their influence shows in a lot of places, and yes they had the advantage in that they were there first, but they certainly made the best of their opportunity.
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The Beatles are down there with traffic wardens, telecasters, mashed potato and middle-lane drivers. Where's my shotgun?
Say what you will about The Beatles, but I will not stand idley by as someone disses my most sacred way of serving potatoes! :shock:
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Ah but Dave, it's easy enough to argue all of those influences (recording aside) are negative, depending on your point of view.
To use the same extreme example as Roo, Nazi Germany has had a colossal influence on modern culture, media and what you could describe as promotional techniques, too.
Lots of people's influence show's in lots of things, doesn't automatically make them good or bad.
(I like The Beatles, incidentally. Well, after they got full of drugs)
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The Beatles are down there with traffic wardens, telecasters, mashed potato and middle-lane drivers. Where's my shotgun?
Say what you will about The Beatles, but I will not stand idley by as someone disses my most sacred way of serving potatoes! :shock:
Mash potato is evil, therefore you worship evil, this conclusion comes from the fact that mashed potato is high on the glycemic index and therefore makes you fat. The evil can be defeated by doing some exercise before consuming the evil, leading to replenishment of glycogen stores rather than storage as fat.
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There is nothing you can do to tatties nor any way to serve them that can ever be described as evil.
Except if you contaminate them with mayonnaise like some kind of tattie hating Philistine, admittedly. But that makes you inhuman and unworthy of my acknowledgement, anyway.
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Ah but Dave, it's easy enough to argue all of those influences (recording aside) are negative, depending on your point of view.
To use the same extreme example as Roo, Nazi Germany has had a colossal influence on modern culture, media and what you could describe as promotional techniques, too.
Lots of people's influence show's in lots of things, doesn't automatically make them good or bad.
(I like The Beatles, incidentally. Well, after they got full of drugs)
Quite - 'influence' is neither positive nor negative without further qualifiers! And the argument that 'without such and such, we wouldn't have [insert genre here]' is also total conjecture. Who knows WHERE music would be now without some of what we call the influential bands? I certainly don't, and I would laugh at anyone who outright claims it would be in a better or worse place under different circumstances.
It can't be denied that their timing (post-war baby boom) helped hugely, both from a sociological perspective and fitting into the then-current music market. At that time, the UK, and indeed the world, was ready and liberal enough (again, as a result of the post-war baby boom) to latch onto a popular sensation. Sadly, they were also impressionable enough and drugged up sufficiently to come to the all-too-dubious conclusion that any life form capable of a) writing and b) publicising the Frog Chorus and Yellow Submarine shouldn't be shot immediately. And don't get me started on the rest of their irritating diatribe. Every time I hear one of their songs, I get so angry I have to leave the room. And to think that people outside of Britain think that we're proud of them???
One thing I ABSOLUTELY HATE is some posh hippy tw@ putting on the Beatles and exclaiming how amazing they are. Get off your lazy arse, get a job and listen to some real music played my real musicians. You're not 'groovy', you're a $%&#ing ####!! and you always will be.
For me, Queen are infinitely the better band - not least for their vastly superior music writing and playing skills, but also in the context of the time during which they came into the public eye.
Even thinking about this is getting me angry. Time to get on with some work, I think. Grr.
PS of all of those things I mentioned, I don't mind other people having mashed potato - just don't serve it to me saying 'oh, but you haven't tasted my mash!'. All the rest really should be wiped off the face of this earth, though.
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I'd also like to point out that I'm normally a quiet, easy-going and peaceful person. Just a very small handful of things get me a little bit :shock: :D
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Roo, I dont like The Beatles either.
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roo, regarding WRONG, your quite right, i put that in(so many people wrong) to reduce the chance of me appearing an opinionated twit.your still wrong about the beatles though :x but it's fine not to like them much, i don't.
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Well, I love the Beatles and think they were very, very talented.
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Did anyone else notice the guitarist in the led zep tribute band uses a blue 1mm dunlop tortex sharp pick? Or am I really sad?
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Quote thingy not working again - what roo said about who knows where music would have been
The beatles did two main things, imo.
Utilised new available technologies in recording.
Drew from multiple genres, globally and historically.
Both of these are really as a result of technology: if its there we will use it. What its orgininally for may not be what we use it for.
Overdubbing, and comercially available international travel, ease of availability of both print and recorded music: all were new or exploding then.
Point is, someone else (and indeed many others did) would use these to make new music, the same way information technology is doing a similar thing now (the era of the semi-pro sounding home studio and libraries of music of any sort that only the filthy rich or long lived music lover could or would have before is upon us). The influence, good or bad, stems from travel and cultural exchange and better electronics, and the vacuum would have been filled by someone.
Alright, that last part is conjecture, but its highly likely.
And OK, the beatles *did* do it, but that doesnt mean that we owe modern music to them. I'd rather make the case for Les Paul, for doing most of the work to make multitrack recording, for example.
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ringo totally $%&#ing owned the thomas the tank engine gig. i'm pretty sure the first time i heard ringo's voice attached to ringo i thought it was thomas the tank engine.
i'm not a gigantic beatles fan either. I appreciate what they did for music, opening doors for other bands etc.. Though if mark's point is valid I might like to go along with it. :lol: