Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: WITH FULL DISTORTION on December 07, 2005, 02:10:00 AM
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Hails Guys
iīm about to leave the guitar at a guitar tech BEFORE i travel back home .
so .. the luthier told me that the problems iīll relate here toyou , are caused by some problem with the Neck length Or some problems with the Tuners.
do you agree with that?
the problems iīmhaving with my charvelfusion deluxe are :
intonation problemswhen using the floyd rose.
particularly with the G, Low E strings.
and detuning of the strings B,G, Low E.. also when using floyd rose.
itīs a 24 ' scale , with 0.11 strings. tuned to D.
post your thoughts here
HAILS
J.P
THANKīS IN ADVANCE.
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Sometimes some brands of strings will not intonate on some guitars, I think it's down to the flexibility of the metal, but I'm not sure. Try some different brands and gauges and see if that helps first. I had the same problems with my Charvel XL750 using 10-60 Boomers, drop D in Eb . Had to ditch them and use 10-52s to get around the problem!
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A wrong scaled neck is easy to identify. Measure from the nut to the 12th fret and from the 12th fret to the bridge. Both measurements should be about the same.
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24 inch is a short scale, Gibsons are 24.75, PRS 25 and Fender 25.5. Detuning with this scale length might also give intonation problems unless you have heavier strings. Do you have 11-49 (as in the D'Addario XL115) or something else?
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Hails Philking
yeah.. i guess itīs 24' SOMETHING, hahaah i never remember these things
iīm using Regular 0,11īs dadario.
and i find that THE only string that are flabby to play pluggedorunplugged is the low E. so, I THINK i can fix the flabby string problem in a tension adjustment on the springs or something like that
But the Intonation problems and detuning using the floyd rose.. i donīt know
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Sometimes some brands of strings will not intonate on some guitars, I think it's down to the flexibility of the metal, but I'm not sure. Try some different brands and gauges and see if that helps first. I had the same problems with my Charvel XL750 using 10-60 Boomers, drop D in Eb . Had to ditch them and use 10-52s to get around the problem!
iīve used both dadario, and ernie ball
i like both, iīve played sit, and someother brazilian brands, but not on this guitar
i just use import brands on this charvel. SHE dESERVES IT
ahahahahha
iīm using 0,11 dadario regular ones.
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A wrong scaled neck is easy to identify. Measure from the nut to the 12th fret and from the 12th fret to the bridge. Both measurements should be about the same.
HAILS RATROD
thankīs for the itps
WHERE exactly is the point that i shall place the measure tape instrument in both the nut and in the frets?
can you take alittle pic?
if i got wrong scale neck.. how can i correct it?
by selling the guitar and getting another one?
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the guitar is 24.75" scale, if you havent changed the neck, it has to be the same scale lenght
check the saddles on the floyd, it's old, probably havent been replaced in over a decade. same for the nut, check the block that presses the string down if its worn too much, replace it.
these are the basic things i would check first, along with a proper floyd setup.
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WHEN I GOT the guitar, i leave it in a tech and he said that the allen screws that you hold or tight to make the intonations on the saddles.. were worn.. so he replacedit.
but you think the saddlesitself could be damaged too?:
the blocks are a thing that 3 people already told me that could be the problem
Also the nut
but you mean The CLamps ?
they have STRING WEAR
iīll send you the pics of the charvel i took yesterday night
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http://s51.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3ILCQP1N90P1O36L9ULH4DS24S
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Short scale guitars with dropped tuning are often a problem
Try using 10-52 s and it may well help
Or try the top 3 strings from a set of 11-49 and the bottom 3 from a set of 10-52 (30,42,52)
A problem with many guitars here is intonation
To get a good tension on the low E you need a fat string.
Fatter strings need a longer intonation length- especially when de-tuned
Many manufacturers put their mounting posts for Floyd Roses in at a point that is not optimum.
This means that the saddles would sit in the middle of the trem with regular strings in regular tuning.
We try to fit ours so the saddles are as far forward as we dare and still get intonation.
Unfortunately the position where most companies put theirs means that when you use fatter strings you just run out of adjustment for intonation on the fatter strings.
What your tech may have to do is to move the posts back away from the neck if it is at all possible, and give you that extra adjustment
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That rocks!!!!! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
I want stickers of that!
(http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/files/feline_strings-10-52_194.gif)
BTW WFD, what tuning do you play? Maybe you need a baritone neck.
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(http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/files/feline_strings-10-52_194.gif)
Me want sticker too! ;)
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$%&#ing hails guys
on this guitar, IīM PLaying IN D standard tuning.
ilove that
FELINE.. MANY THANKīS ! i would LOVE to bring my guitar to you to set it up for me, and i would love to pay you your price and get my guitar 100%
BUT.. unfortunately ahahaha iīmnot in england... but $%&#ing thank you for the tips.
Q:)
J.P
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If the problem is that there is not enough room to intonate and moving the trem posts is not possible then the only option is to move the neck slightly further out of the body.
To do this your tech will need to unbolt the neck - drill and fill the existing screw holes in the neck using hardwood dowel (I cut my own from maple). Add a shim - I'd suggest maple and place it at the end of the neck forcing the neck further out of the body when it is put back in.
Then redrill the pilot holes and refit the neck.
Then redo the intonation and hopefully it will be enough to now get the adjustment you need.
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Hails Feline
after what you said..
i īmfeeling sad with the guitar in question...
Q:(
now i want to sell my 3 guitars and order a customone with the money
but the problem IS: I LOVE this guitar
itīs my favorite of ALL TIME
i had about 10, 15 guitars since 1996.. when i started toplay guitar(influencedby slayer,sodom,kreator, sarcofago, sepultura, and later by blackmetal bands, and now more into technical deathmetal)
and this one is one of the ones that unite a more number of characteristics that i like
now if i have to doall that routing stuff, iīll sell it and donītdothat
Q:(
iīll leave it in the tech and see what he will say
if he sayīs what you said to me(i doubt he will be SO good than i think you are) .. if he says the smae thing you said.. iīll not allow himto do that and iīll sell the 3 guitars
do you have something with a neck back shape of a fender 50īs (that rounder countour back shape of the neck. not thick,but not THIN like the ibanezs), baritone scale(for using C standard tuning), 24 Medium/jumbo frets.. like the ones in the same 50īs fender.. ..2 humbuckers direct mounted into the wood. 1 volume pot only. 3 way switch and strat body shape.
Ah.. Floyd rose with recessed cavity etc. OF COURSE.
!?!?!
and what price range!?
hAILS
J.,p
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Don't sell it, you'll regret it.