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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: gingataff on July 13, 2010, 03:25:01 PM
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Alien meets Indiana Jones.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=105822368 (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=105822368)
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ooo boy ... let's see
this ... was utter cr@p! the music is also boring
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ooo boy ... let's see
this ... was utter cr@p! the music is also boring
:lol: Don't be afraid to speak your mind PDT_002
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Iron Maiden is dead.
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amazing production values on both music and video...
but...
boring music, and as for the video - well, i kind of like the idea of a cool sci-fi sort of thing, but its sort of lame isn't it? storyline was very predictable.
wonder if we'll see more of this story ever
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Iron Maiden is dead.
surely this video is worse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipyjwp2bVgM
even if i quite like that track
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man, i think they sank even lower with this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9fbaujXsb8&NR=1
no idea why i'm posting bad iron maiden videos ;)
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man, i think they sank even lower with this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9fbaujXsb8&NR=1
no idea why i'm posting bad iron maiden videos ;)
Because they're dead. I'm going to demand the last 5 years of my fanclub dues back!
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I quite liked that! Anyway, it was better than watching Miranda on the box...
I don't particularly expect musical innovation from Maiden... It's the same old same old, but it's comfortable.
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I quite liked that! Anyway, it was better than watching Miranda on the box...
I like Miranda!
The video was meh. It's like the director's seen about 3 films - in his whole life - nicked a few ideas and thinks no-one will realise how desperately unoriginal it all is. The song was alright, but I think Maiden may be edging towards the point where they should call it a day.
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I still can't see the point in music videos with sound effects which are loud than the music for the majority of the song. The song has a really poor hook that just doesn't stick or grab at all.
I agree Maiden=Dead!
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Meh.................
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Poor old Maiden :(
They should just tour the old records now and do the festival circuit.
Paddy
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As a die hard maiden fan, I'm looking forward to the album. Videos, unless they are live, have never been maidens strong point, but the video does put the first son 'El Dorado' in context.
Up the Irons 8)
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man, i think they sank even lower with this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9fbaujXsb8&NR=1
no idea why i'm posting bad iron maiden videos ;)
I always liked Holy Smoke - last gasp era (Fear Of The Dark being THE END)
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man, i think they sank even lower with this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9fbaujXsb8&NR=1
no idea why i'm posting bad iron maiden videos ;)
I always liked Holy Smoke - last gasp era (Fear Of The Dark being THE END)
I think 'Dance of Death' is a good album, and theres the odd good track on 'Brave New World' in my opinion. I guess we all have a different taste :)
I know Davey and Ben will strongly disagree here ;)
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As a die hard maiden fan, I'm looking forward to the album. Videos, unless they are live, have never been maidens strong point, but the video does put the first son 'El Dorado' in context.
Up the Irons 8)
+1
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I'm gonna be slightly controversial and say that Dance Of Death and Brave New World are two of their best albums, IMO, of course.
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I'm gonna be slightly controversial and say that Dance Of Death and Brave New World are two of their best albums, IMO, of course.
I agree with that about Dance of Death actually
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I'm gonna be slightly controversial and say that Dance Of Death and Brave New World are two of their best albums, IMO, of course.
I agree with that about Dance of Death actually
I agree too, but I prefer Brave New World. Then I found A Matter of Life and Death a bit disappointing - I think they've got into a rut with Kevin Shirley producing, just as they did with Martin Birch.
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I think Dance of Death was a great album, tho sonically it's TERRIBLE. I saw Maiden ... 6 times? for that tour.
A Matter of Life And Death is awful; it sounds like a bunch of solo albums edited together. Dreary ... boring ... lame. It was so bad that Maiden is now denying its existence wholesale. They pulled the same trick Judas Priest did -- put out a clunker album and then rely on a 'classic' tour to divert attention from it.
Everything I've heard from the new album only underscores my belief that Maiden should be put out to pasture. It's utter cr@p.
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And El Dorado has BLATANT riff theft on it!!
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Dance of Death was a great album, Paschendale and Montsegur are both superb tracks, however A Matter of Life and Death was totally different. As far as I can remember, it has the shortest writing / production time of any album, mayber barring their debut. I think you have to put in that context, yes it is different from anything that has gone before, but does have a sense of 'immediacy', that makes it more 'human'.
El Dorado does'nt have as powerful hooks as previous singles, but will no doubt make sense in the context of the album.
Best album has to be Somewhere in Time, followd by Powerslave 8)
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And El Dorado has BLATANT riff theft on it!!
wouldn't be the first time for them..
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Brave New World = good album
Dance of Death = good album, though they're repeating their own riffs like there's no tomorrow
a matter of ... = utter cr@p.
and their debut album didnt have a short writing period. you have your whole life to write your debut. on the 2nd album you can still use some of that material, the 3rd is the band killer usually and it turned out to be one of their strongest records. now, they're just shite
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I quite liked some of the matter of life and death album (it had a couple of good songs on it) ive got all maidens stuff but i don't really think they have done a good album since seventh son.
I also don't think they had done a bad album until no prayer (controversial im sure) either. I have to say i miss Derek Riggs artwork. It had depth and texture, i find the new computer drawn stuff a bit cheesy, they've lost that mock horror feel for a more tongue in cheek fantasy image imho. its gone from 18 to PG :?
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The only maiden album that doesnt do anything at all for me is No Prayer For The Dying. Even the two Blaze ones had good tracks, even if he couldnt deliver the vocals required for them.
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The only maiden album that doesnt do anything at all for me is No Prayer For The Dying. Even the two Blaze ones had good tracks, even if he couldnt deliver the vocals required for them.
The only thing I'd say for No Prayer is that Janick brought some energy back to the band. Good though Somewhere In Time and Seventh Son are, I think they'd got a bit..... bloated.
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I also don't think they had done a bad album until no prayer (controversial im sure) either. I have to say i miss Derek Riggs artwork. It had depth and texture, i find the new computer drawn stuff a bit cheesy, they've lost that mock horror feel for a more tongue in cheek fantasy image imho. its gone from 18 to PG :?
uh, yes. i hate most of the artwork since a real live dead one. though virtual IX and BNW are ok.. BNW is a good one actually the rest is just shite.. apart of the somewhere in time tour artwork... but that's rehashed old stuff
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i actually found the dave riggs artwork a bit disturbing when i was very young.. was born in 1979, so do mean very young.. i agree that i don't think the modern covers would have had quite the same effect
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I'm sure i read somewhere that Riggs did the top part of that BNW album cover.
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The elephant in the room is Janick is such a f**king sloppy player!
What does he bring to the party apart from misguided energy twirling his guitar?
Nice bloke but I can't stand his playing. :shock:
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The elephant in the room is Janick is such a f**king sloppy player!
What does he bring to the party apart from misguided energy twirling his guitar?
Nice bloke but I can't stand his playing. :shock:
He was great in White Spirit.
I said irrelevantly. :|
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Nice CGI
Shame about the song.
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Nice CGI
Shame about the song.
HA.
Brilliant!
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The elephant in the room is Janick is such a f**king sloppy player!
What does he bring to the party apart from misguided energy twirling his guitar?
Nice bloke but I can't stand his playing. :shock:
he's a pretty damn good songwriter actually.
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Hating on Jannick is moronic. He's great. But that doesn't mean the band doesn't SUCK now!
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The elephant in the room is Janick is such a f**king sloppy player!
What does he bring to the party apart from misguided energy twirling his guitar?
Nice bloke but I can't stand his playing. :shock:
Janick, sloppy?......incendiary yes, but not sloppy. I think Mr Gers really captures the a 'Blackmore' energy which complements Dave and Adrians styles.
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Hating on Jannick is moronic. He's great. But that doesn't mean the band doesn't SUCK now!
Have you seen/heard him play a solo live? :?
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Hating on Jannick is moronic. He's great. But that doesn't mean the band doesn't SUCK now!
Have you seen/heard him play a solo live? :?
Probably 10x more than you have. But that's beside the point.
Can't you see what I'm saying? I love you, Dave! PDT_008
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Hating on Jannick is moronic. He's great. But that doesn't mean the band doesn't SUCK now!
Have you seen/heard him play a solo live? :?
Probably 10x more than you have.
You have indeed suffered for your metal honours & I will not get Taliban on yo' ass...
My love for you could only be strengthened in the furnace of disagreement... :bisou:
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My love for you could only be strengthened in the furnace of disagreement... :bisou:
When did this become a man love secks forum?! :lol:
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My love for you could only be strengthened in the furnace of disagreement... :bisou:
When did this become a man love secks forum?! :lol:
ever since Afghan joined to forum ;)
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I became a fan of Iron Maiden in 1980 and saw them for the first time on the Killer world tour. I've seen them pretty much every time they've been round since and the only bad show I've seen was on Bruce's farewell tour. I mention this only to say that I have some experience of Maiden.
What Maiden have achieved is remarkable and I would never run them down or suggest that they are irrelevant. The standard of musicianship is superb, I mean, who would you actually want to replace? Anyway, here's my take on their albums:
Iron Maiden - This album had a real raw energy about it that seemed to capture the essence of the time in which it was released. No really weak songs and the rough edges on the production only enhanced its power.
Killers - A much more polished production, though it lacked the raw edge of the original. Again, I can't say there is a bad song on here but as an album it suffers from being sandwiched between two great albums. The significant thing about this album is the introduction of Adrian Smith.
Number of the Beast - It's hard to say now, in 2010, just what impact this album had. Iron Maiden were already head and shoulders above any other Metal band but this album was just awesome and the live show was amazing. 'Gangland' and 'Invaders' are a touch weak but that's up against some incredible tracks. 'Number of the Beast' and 'Hallowed Be Thy Name' still rank amongst my favourite Maiden tracks ever.
Piece of Mind - Taken in isolation, this is a very good album but was always going to seem a bit of a let down compared to 'Number of the Beast'. Overall I really like the album and it has some really great tracks on it but to my mind, I can never forgive it for 'Quest For Fire', which is so bad as a song that it would embarrass Spinal Tap!
Powerslave - Another great album, though it didn't have the impact of 'Number of the Beast'. There were some great tracks but it was a little short on 'classics' compared to some previous standards. Like many albums it was superb when viewed in isolation and only suffers when compared to some of Maiden's other offerings. Nevertheless, it is generally seen as one of their best and the live show was, as usual, superb.
Somewhere in Time - I really didn't like 'Alexander the Great' but other than this the album is one of the best they've ever done. On this album we see the Maiden sound evolving and the song writing is becoming ever more ambitious and complex. I remember at the time, the key aspect of the album to me was the realisation that Adrian Smith was essential to the band's success. 'Stranger in a Strange Land' and 'Wasted Years' are amongst my favourite ever Maiden songs and showed what a great songwriter Adrian was but they also showed that he wasn't entirely happy in the Maiden camp at this point. This album is special to me because it was here that I really started to appreciate Adrian Smith as both a guitarist and musician. He's been my favourite member of Maiden ever since and one of my favourite guitarists. If you want to learn how to structure a good solo, you could do a lot worse than learn some of his.
Seventh Son of a Seventh Son - Looking back from 2010 it's easy to forget what an astonishing album this actually was. Here they really pushed the boundaries of what Maiden could do and many of the songs were masterpieces of construction. Pretty much all of the songs are excellent but the title track is just incredible. If it was a film, this album bould be like a Ben Hur epic. This was Maiden at the height of their powers and without a doubt, it is my favourite Maiden album. If you weren't around at the time you won't appreciate just what an incredible album this was.
No Prayer for the Dying - Oh dear, Adrian Smith has gone and the wheels have really fallen off the wagon! The title track is pretty good but otherwise this is a really weak album and the one I like the least. I own it but I never play it and this album marked a real low point in Maiden's career. I think Janick Gers was rather tainted by this album as a lot of its poor quality was unfairly blamed on him and he's never really fully recovered so he's all too often seen as an irrelevance to the Maiden line-up. There is no doubt that this album is weak and Maiden were seriously missing Adrian Smith.
Fear of the Dark - Obviously the title track on this is a Maiden classic but in all honesty, it's one of the few tracks that saves this album. There are a couple of other highlights but overall this is another weak offering and without Adrian Smith the band were looking tired and disinterested.
X Factor - Not entirely surprisingly, Bruce left and things looked bleak for Maiden. Blaze Bayley had an impossible task in replacing Bruce and the album had a luke warm reception. It was certainly very different with most of the songs being slower and more ponderous than usual. I remember at the time I didn't like it but I've listened to it since and in many ways it's actually their most ambitious album since 'Seventh Son...' and now ranks as one of my favourites.
Virtual XI - There are some really good tracks on this but there were also sadly signs that Maiden were a band again bereft of ideas. Many parts of the album had sections that are best described as 'padding' as riffs are repeated endlessly to make the album last. Not the worst they've done but not a classic.
Brave New World - Now I may be a touch biased but while the headline was Bruce's return, the signifcant move was getting Adrian Smith to rejoin the band. All of a sudden the band came to life and this is one of the best albums they've ever done with not a weak track anywhere.
Dance of Death - If anything, this was even stronger than 'Brave New World' and it seemed like Maiden could do no wrong. Every song is excellent, though the artwork for the album is very weak and to my mind is the weakest album cover they've ever done.
A Matter of Life and Death - Perhaps it was always going to be impossible to write a third classic album on the bounce but this is undoubtedly a step back. I remember that the press were hailing it as a masterpiece and this prompted Maiden to play the whole album, in order, on their tour. They should have done that with 'Seventh Son....' but did it with this instead and while it was, as usual, a good show and the album had some great tracks, it was nowhere near the two previous albums.
The Final Frontier? I have an open mind at this stage. I can't say I'm overly struck on the title track but I think that is mostly to do with the fact that Bruce's vocals sound rather more strained than usual, though the riffing is excellent as always. I do like El Dorado, which isn't like me at all as I'm not normally keen on their single releases. Nevertheless, I do think you write Maiden off at your peril and I am full of admiration and respect for them, not only for their track record and contribution to Metal, but also because they haven't sat on their laurels playing ancient material over and over again.
This post has been significantly longer than anticipated and no doubt many will disagree with me but it's my take on Maiden as a life long fan.
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Well said Doadman, looking forward to the new album as well 8)
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There was a time, when dinosaurs rule the earth...
Classic!
What were they thinking.
I really love the first two albums, although the bruce is the superior singer there's just something about the way Paul sang those songs.