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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Sean on December 11, 2005, 12:27:41 AM

Title: Gibson 50's wiring with bkp's Attn: Tim
Post by: Sean on December 11, 2005, 12:27:41 AM

Has anyone wired there bkp pickups using the gibson 50's style wiring.  How's it sound?  Tim this type of wiring should sound fine with a bkp pickup right?

(Its the bottom diagram)

http://www.dominocs.com/ToneWorks/images/50smod.gif

Title: Gibson 50's wiring with bkp's Attn: Tim
Post by: Steve-Mr Pig 2U on December 11, 2005, 12:35:38 AM

Theres no reason why it shouldn't sound good, they are no different in principle from any other passive pickup.

Title: Gibson 50's wiring with bkp's Attn: Tim
Post by: Sean on December 11, 2005, 01:42:02 AM

I had to check because this is my first time wiring a guitar and I rather not screw up!

Title: Gibson 50's wiring with bkp's Attn: Tim
Post by: PhilKing on December 11, 2005, 01:00:45 PM

Looking at it I think it sould make the tone more consistent with different volumes.  The capacitor is across the output not the pickup, so the pickup volume resistance shouldn't come into play.

Title: Gibson 50's wiring with bkp's Attn: Tim
Post by: HTH AMPS on December 11, 2005, 02:07:55 PM

I use the 50s Gibson wiring on all my guitars - I just makes them sound more open and louder.

 :twisted:

Title: Gibson 50's wiring with bkp's Attn: Tim
Post by: Sean on December 11, 2005, 03:22:14 PM

This wiring is also supposed to keep more highs and prevent mud as you turn the volume knob down.

Title: Gibson 50's wiring with bkp's Attn: Tim
Post by: Floyd Pepper on December 11, 2005, 04:00:31 PM

If 50's wiring is better why did they stop using it?

Title: Gibson 50's wiring with bkp's Attn: Tim
Post by: Sean on December 11, 2005, 04:04:58 PM

I have no idea why they stopped using it.

Title: Gibson 50's wiring with bkp's Attn: Tim
Post by: 5F6-A on December 11, 2005, 04:38:39 PM

any info Tim??
 :wink:

Title: Gibson 50's wiring with bkp's Attn: Tim
Post by: Sean on December 13, 2005, 03:35:34 PM

Yah I'm pretty intrested in this too.  Tim do tell.

Title: Gibson 50's wiring with bkp's Attn: Tim
Post by: The amazing Phil on December 15, 2005, 09:17:36 AM

We all know how sucky Gibson's management has been, I mean look at how they relegated P-90s to their budget models rather than making it an option or something...sheer madness!

Title: Gibson 50's wiring with bkp's Attn: Tim
Post by: rinse_master on December 15, 2005, 10:41:51 AM

I had this on a LP of mine (although with SD's, not BK's :oops: ) but I found it opened things up a little and the treble boost as you turn the vol down is quite handy, I took it off a little while ago but I odn't like it, gonna have to put it back.

Title: Gibson 50's wiring with bkp's Attn: Tim
Post by: B3 on December 15, 2005, 10:55:24 AM

You have to remember that although the quality of some vintage instruments has always been popular with musicians, in the 70's, modding was the done thing. Many guitarists didn't like the way that the vintage wiring worked, and so Gibson started messing with it. Other factors were controlled by suppliers, such as the type of winding wire, quality of magnets, types of capacitors etc... or just to cut production costs. Mostly though, Gibson just thought that they were keeping up with what guitarists wanted, although in reality, the management were behind the trends and/or seemed to miss the point completely. Remember when Bloomfield was playing a Goldtop, and everyone thought they were the guitar to have? Then he switched to a sunburst  Flametop but by then Gibson had already stopped making them. When Gibson started making Les Pauls again in '68, rather than just resuming production where they left off a few years before, they chose to make the P90 Goldtop! Maybe Gibson needs more working musicians on it's management team?

Title: Gibson 50's wiring with bkp's Attn: Tim
Post by: 38thBeatle on December 15, 2005, 08:49:55 PM

They've got a management team ?

Title: Gibson 50's wiring with bkp's Attn: Tim
Post by: Tim on December 15, 2005, 10:22:12 PM

I think B3 nailed it in one and when it comes to Gibson history B3s knowledge is unsurpassed!

Title: Gibson 50's wiring with bkp's Attn: Tim
Post by: 5F6-A on December 16, 2005, 04:46:35 PM

a very good article about this:
http://www.pisotones.com/Articulos/LP-Wiring/LP-Wiring.htm
it's in Spanish though..use a decetn online translator.