Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: hunter on July 31, 2010, 06:23:28 AM
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I am posting this here because there are also non-BKPs in the race.
Basically I played the same stuff on the same rig and settings with different guitars:
-Edwards Page Les Paul with Bare Knuckle Emerald and RebelYell
-Gibson LP Special with BareKnuckle P91/92
-Gibson SG Standard with BareKnuckle MiracleMan and stock Gibson Neck
-Music Man Axis with stock pickups
-PRS McRosie with BareKnuckle VHIIs
-Hamer Sunburst with BareKnuckle ColdSweats
-Epiphone Les Paul Classic with BareKnuckle BlackDogs
As I haven't changed any settings, some parts might sound a bit too gainy or not enough, due to PU output differences. Also a correction of treble/presence could have optimised things for some, but I wanted to keep the settings untouched, to demonstrate the PU differences. It's really hard for me to pick a favourite or - the other way round - decide which of them I could let go.
Part1: CLEAN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBg9BU1UjOM
Part2: CRUNCH http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORlsODENVd4
Part3: OVERDRIVE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO4WsjX6YCE
Part4: HIGHGAIN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYAgbIgjnVw
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awesome!
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Great, man. Thanks.
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Really really cool! I like specially the Emerald and P92 (listened yet just to overdrive)
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emerald (http://www.msgking.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/green-bunny01.gif)
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thanks for your efforts here, this is very useful.it shows well for example that the hamer c/sweats sounds lifeless
clean(no offence) but really comes alive with more distortion, as i would expect from a high output pup.
the vhII's sound darker than i imagined and probably my favourite accross all settings.
very useful reference. we need this back to back comparison in ALL settings for ALL the bkp classes; would be a real asset for the website.
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Very good indeed, I choose VHIIs slightly ahead of Emerald.
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What a F'N arsenal of guitars! I don't think there is anything be it sound,tone or band you could not cover with your selection of pickups/guitar. My favorite was the Black Dogs in the Les Paul, that is the sound of rock and roll!
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What a F'N arsenal of guitars! I don't think there is anything be it sound,tone or band you could not cover with your selection of pickups/guitar. My favorite was the Black Dogs in the Les Paul, that is the sound of rock and roll!
Well, as you might have seen, there are no Single Coils LOL. I do have a Tokai Strat with a set of Apaches though, but it was lacking two strings at the moment and I was too lazy setting it up :)
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Nice work! I have to say it all sounded good to me, and I kept forgetting I was supposed to be comparing the sounds (there's something hypnotic about listening to the same parts over and over). :D
(Not forgetting that the guitars themselves play a part in the tones) I really like the Emerald bridge - there's a tight, bright, raw, aggressive quality, I bet it's fun to play and makes you want to pick hard! Not sure it would be my choice if I only had one guitar though. The VHII sounds really BIG, warmer than I expected. Black Dog is maybe the most instant, classic sound.
Don't know if it's the pickups or the guitars, but both the guitars with Floyds seem to sound big/fat on the bass strings, less pronounced in the mids? The Cold Sweat bridge pickup has the tightness I liked with the Emerald.
The Miracle Man is probably least to my taste (which I what I'd expected). And finally, I was surprised how well the BKP-92 copes with distortion.
Now can you do it all again with the neck pickups? :P :wink:
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I really like this, great work Hunter. When I listen to the Guitarist CD demos, there's always some dude just strumming open chords on a fairly gainy sound - it usually doesn't help at all! I really like how your playing is more varied and shows a lot of different elements (melody, heavy chords, soloing, sustain)! Great work!
The one thing i don't like too much is of course Youtube, as it looses some quality.
And of course it is debatable how fair it is to compare a PRS with an Epiphone... still I feel the Black Dogs were among my favorites. I also was very happy to see how the Miracle Man sounds a lot heavier in comparison!
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Really really cool! I like specially the Emerald and P92 (listened yet just to overdrive)
Listening again, the MM sounds MEAN and the Black Dog has a HUGE amount of bass :o
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I have to say I really liked the whole thing that Hunter did, and I liked all the BKP's. Different textures, tone for different occasions. Nice work!!
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The one thing i don't like too much is of course Youtube, as it looses some quality.
I have to admit, this was recorded using the internal mic and webcam of my MacBook, so you can't really blame the youtube compression ... shite in, shite out :lol:
I should've used some decent gear, I even have a good cam and a good recorder, but not with decent audio. And the Q3 is still not in HD, so I keep waiting. It's just too much effort aligning Audio & Video from different sources, if you do many cuts in the material.
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Really great videos, Hunter. I have only watched the clean and crunch part so far, but I'll see the last too later.
For the cleans I liked the Black Dog the most and in the crunch section I can't really decide between VHII, Black Dog and Emerald.
But the greatest thing about the videos surely must be that you look a lot like Kevin Spacey :D
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But the greatest thing about the videos surely must be that you look a lot like Kevin Spacey :D
I'm not seeing the resemblance, but :lol:
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Nice playing as always ;). Surprising but I like the most the sg followed by the hammer with cold sweats (i was always putting this ceramic on side when choosing a bkp). Did not find other guitars to roar like those too.
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Had a listen to the overdrive and high gain parts.
My favourites are still VHII, Emerald and Black Dog all though the Miracle Man and the Cold Sweat did a lot better with some more gain. The P92 was quite nice as well.
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And finally, I was surprised how well the BKP-92 copes with distortion.
Now can you do it all again with the neck pickups? :P :wink:
Haha, yeah I'm not a neck PU guy, you got me there. I did use them on the cleans though. And here's some neck clippage of the RebelYell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRuqqena_E0
And yes, those P-Types are awesome. Bad ones can be not flesh, not meat, good ones are the best of both worlds. Tim's are definitely the latter. It's the prime recipe if you wanna cut through a band mix with another guitar player. I'm sure that high note in the Highgain part would have cought on feedback and sustained if I'd upped the gain a tad.
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After more listening I think I like the CS in the Hamer just as much as the BD's in the Epi. By the way Hunter, your clips have helped me decide on the CS set for my Les Paul standard.Thanks!
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Hunter - may i ask what wood combination is in that Epi Les Paul with the Black Dog?
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Hunter - may i ask what wood combination is in that Epi Les Paul with the Black Dog?
AFAIK it is Mahogany with an Alder top and a maple veneer. But I'm not a wood expert, so I base my assumption on what people told me Epiphone put in those LP Classics.