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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: martinw on August 15, 2010, 08:10:34 PM

Title: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: martinw on August 15, 2010, 08:10:34 PM
Just finished reassembling my Start with a new body from the guy I got my Tele body from. I decided I wanted to try out a hardtail body, as I don't use the trem.

I've always believed that the trem is part of the Strat sound, even when not used, and don't like them flush with the body. However, having them floating is a major pain for gigging when you have to change tunings.

So, £84 and a few hours later, I've discovered I might like hardtail Strats! The wood is American Western Red Alder like the Tele, and I've oiled and waxed it. All the parts, apart from the bridge (which is a genuine Fender US Standard item), are from my Highway 1, whcih I've always thought was the best Strat I've had.

The body is slightly heavier than the Highway 1, but the guitar has ended up exactly the same weight as the Highway 1 at 7.25 lbs. It sounds better than my Highway 1! I'm very pleased.  :)
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj236/matamp/Strat008small.jpg)
(http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj236/matamp/Strat004small.jpg)
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: Ian Price on August 15, 2010, 08:14:14 PM
Like it! I'm not normally in favour of natural strats but that looks pretty good to me.
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: Sifu Ben on August 15, 2010, 09:50:29 PM
Cool, I just bought an HSS trem body :)
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: _tom_ on August 15, 2010, 09:53:30 PM
Very nice :) There need to be more Fender hardtail strat models available. I still want a Tom Delonge one!
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: Twinfan on August 15, 2010, 09:55:37 PM
Nice work mate!
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: 38thBeatle on August 15, 2010, 10:37:01 PM
Looking good.My main Strat is a hardtail and I love it.
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: Philly Q on August 16, 2010, 12:43:24 AM
Another hardtail fan here.  Looks good!  :D
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: gwEm on August 16, 2010, 01:09:14 AM
interesting guitar - looks good, not too bling. i wonder how the sound is, i like the s-s-s thing alot, but wonder how a different wood (korina, mahogany etc) would sound, might give extra thickness to the tone.
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: shobet on August 16, 2010, 10:32:36 AM
it's got quite a nice 70s vibe to it Martin. I like the look of that.
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: martinw on August 16, 2010, 10:51:46 AM
Thanks all.  :)

Sound-wise, it sounds like a really good Strat. There's a bit more "firmness" to the sound, but it still retains all the twang and spank. My concerns about losing the trem were unfounded. I have a theory that the trem might have a acoustic effect that doesn't transfer to the amplified sound. Who knows.

I'm not a fan of "thick" guitar sounds, but this is still beefy when required. But it's still recognisably a Strat, which is the sound I love. Check out some of those Phil X vids for a taste of how a good Strat should sound (Sorry Phil!  :lol: )

BKP Treachery Alert: The bridge pickup, as you'll probably have noticed is a Dimarzio. It's a Virtual Vintage Heavy Blues hum-cancelling jobby, and it's superb. I'm now a big fan of these, and can't believe how they've managed to get such great sounds from a hum-cancelling pickup. When I can afford it, I'll be putting Area 58's in the neck and middle. Maybe this is an area that BKP need to look into?
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: Philly Q on August 16, 2010, 12:51:59 PM
BKP Treachery Alert: The bridge pickup, as you'll probably have noticed is a Dimarzio. It's a Virtual Vintage Heavy Blues hum-cancelling jobby, and it's superb. I'm now a big fan of these, and can't believe how they've managed to get such great sounds from a hum-cancelling pickup. When I can afford it, I'll be putting Area 58's in the neck and middle. Maybe this is an area that BKP need to look into?

I don't think they have any intention of doing so!

I quite like stacked "single-coils", I have a couple of Area 58's and an Area 61 which I will get round to fitting one day.... I also had a Virtual T set in my Thinline for a while, and I've got a few Kinmans.  They may not sound exactly like the real thing, but they get very close, and more importantly they sound good.  I think they suit the modern, slightly smoother sounding, more hi-tech, Strats and Teles, I possibly wouldn't use them in a vintage type. 
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: dave_mc on August 16, 2010, 12:52:52 PM
very nice. I always thought that about trems too (affecting the tone), but then I use the trems anyway, so...
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: tomjackson on August 16, 2010, 04:17:35 PM

That's really nice Martin,  very classy.  Looking forward to trying it at some point.

Does the guy do bodies to order, or is it just what's on ebay?

Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: Matt77 on August 16, 2010, 04:51:14 PM
Nice
Lots of new guitars being posted at the moment. I'll dig the camera out and post my recently finished partscaster in the next day or so.
I went for the same style scratchplate
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: martinw on August 16, 2010, 05:13:04 PM

That's really nice Martin,  very classy.  Looking forward to trying it at some point.

Does the guy do bodies to order, or is it just what's on ebay?



Thanks.
Yes, he does build to order as well.
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: gwEm on August 16, 2010, 05:29:10 PM
thats very interesting martin. wonder if he'd do a mahogany one...

(i need to try hard and resist such thoughts...)
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: martinw on August 16, 2010, 07:13:40 PM
I'm sure he would.  :)
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: DavidRees on August 16, 2010, 08:25:38 PM
excellent stuff Martin - does the hardtail string through the body or rest on top?
david :)
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: martinw on August 16, 2010, 11:54:11 PM
excellent stuff Martin - does the hardtail string through the body or rest on top?
david :)
Through body, like a Tele.
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: roland_rat on August 17, 2010, 01:26:29 PM
Hi Martin,


Congrats on your new guitar. It looks a nice one.  Enjoy :shock:
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: TimmyHendrix on August 29, 2010, 10:22:18 PM
Hi,

Maybe I missed this (apologies if so) but who did who buy the body from?
I also love strats but I don't really use the trem and more importantly I love to leave the low E-string ringing and then bend a note on the treble strings...which drives me potty on a floating trem guitar ;)
I have tried hardtail gibbos, but nothing cuts through and has that touch of twang as a Fender, I've also tried the trem block route, but I can't help think what I need is a string-through hardtail...

Best regards,
Gareth

Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: Johnny Mac on August 30, 2010, 11:09:33 AM
Looks really nice Martin.  8)
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: gwEm on October 26, 2010, 10:39:52 PM
tried searching ebay for red american alder bodies with no luck.. don't suppose you happen to recall the guys name?
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: Telerocker on October 26, 2010, 11:48:51 PM
Nice guitar. How is the tone/vibe of the wood? I think hardtail strats ring more than trem-strats.
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: martinw on October 26, 2010, 11:59:40 PM
He's a seller called 1jonone.
He hasn't always got anything ready made, but if you message him, he'll make what you want.
Title: Re: New Hardtail Strat Body Day
Post by: gwEm on October 27, 2010, 12:14:05 PM
thanks, have messaged him