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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Lew on August 18, 2010, 02:29:12 PM
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Download and read 8)
http://www.4shared.com/file/125257110/d3a5d13d/6375990-Recasting-Metal-Rhythm-and-Meter-in-the-Music-of-Meshuggah.html
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Wonder if this works.
edit - yep!
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Nice one, although a simple reference to the article would have sufficed, too :D
I shall read through this later when I'm not supposed to be working :)
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to simplify - Meshuggah's time signatures are mind blowing.
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I didn't understand a word of that.
I think I'm one of the only metal fans in the world that doesn't like Meshuggah either.
Paddy
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Nah Paddy, I'm not overly keen on them either. Having said that, "Combustion" is an absolute stoker of a song. In fact I think the only album of theirs that I like is Obzen.
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Good article/paper/whatever
Nice explanation and 'quantitative' analysis of what mushuggah do so very well (and one of the things that their various would-be impersonators fail to grasp; its not just hitting the odd extra 8th or 16th!)
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I think that I want to experience a little of Meshuggah - that genre has kinda passed me by a little (although I'm not entirely WHAT that genre is...)
Killswitch Engage too.
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I think that I want to experience a little of Meshuggah - that genre has kinda passed me by a little (although I'm not entirely WHAT that genre is...)
Killswitch Engage too.
I would say that, musically, KSE and Meshuggah are in two very, very different ball-parks. KSE tends to stick with the usual time signatures and rhythms - I would put them much more towards the 'mainstream' than Meshuggah. On the other hand, Meshuggah have gone far into a polyrhythm mode with highly nonclassical time signatures (or multiple overlaid time signatures in some cases).
Good that you'd want to dabble a little in both, though :)
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Mark, they're a very unique band, so if you havent heard them be prepared for some weirdness. I'd expect an initial reaction to be 'what the $%&# is that?'.
All of the music theory dissection details how they go about creating a disorienting and bizarre, eliptical vibe to their sound. I think they're the most original band in decades. (And they do what I was on about in the other thread really well; their music is technical as $%&#, but its that way for a real musical reason other than to just be technical; to make this otherworldy sound thats heavy and percussive, rhythmically intense, but confusing and $%&#ed up - its extremely heavy music with the same tendency to float along and refuse to pin down that jazz has)
Start with destroy erase improve or obzen. They arent very accessible, but those are probably the easiest to get into. Catch 33, chaosphere and nothing are the most byzantine. Catch 33 is an album written as a single song that was broken up later.
And, no, they are nothing like KSE. Dont get me wrong, KSE are alight (but no more than that), they are just very dissimilar.
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Yeah, I didn't mean to lump those two bands into the same GENRE, God help me on this forun if I were to do that!!!
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I've heard some Meshuggah on YouTube - it's good; unsettling music, like good horror films. Even with my limited perspective I can see KSE as being a little more mainstream (in a niche genre kind of way... oh wait, I've done it again... OH GOD!!!)
I'm old school, and I think that you need do some serious album research to start to understand a bit about a band. If I don't get made redundant next week I'll treat myself to some Meshuggah and KSE for the commute. And get to work ANGRY!!!
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Yeah, I didn't mean to lump those two bands into the same GENRE, God help me on this forun if I were to do that!!!
;)
I've heard some Meshuggah on YouTube - it's good; unsettling music, like good horror films. Even with my limited perspective I can see KSE as being a little more mainstream (in a niche genre kind of way... oh wait, I've done it again... OH GOD!!!)
I'm old school, and I think that you need do some serious album research to start to understand a bit about a band. If I don't get made redundant next week I'll treat myself to some Meshuggah and KSE for the commute. And get to work ANGRY!!!
SPOTIFY!! :D
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Polymeters!
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Read that a while ago, basic none brain hurty version = get a drummer to play 8 bars of 4/4 with his hands, play some guitar riff in mental time sig over the top and repeat until end of 4th bar, then cut off riff, restart riff causing brain spasm from OMFG POLYRHYTHMS!!! Cut off again at end of 8th bar and make drummer add kick to follow your riff to mess him up and tell him to practice.
Repeat a few more times, for extra Meshuggahtasticness, use an 8 string, switch between vocals and droning leads with minor 2nd and diminished 5th cos they are well spooky, then add random atonal tapping "FREDRICK IS GOD" solo somewhere.
If you can't find a drummer or cut off in the middle of a riff, use a sampled kit and the copy and paste function in your favourite DAW.