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Title: Fret cleaning
Post by: horsehead on August 30, 2010, 07:48:20 PM
Just taken possession of a new strat (more to follow) but I have noticed that at the high end, the frets seem to have never been cleaned & seem to have a tang to them. I've cleaned the neck (maple) with some lemon oil which has taken the worst off, but it seems, well...not ingrained, but needs a bloody good clean, only problem is I haven't got a clue what to use for the best of the frets & neck. Can anyone put me in the right direction please?
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: Dmoney on August 30, 2010, 07:53:08 PM
i saw something once were a dude masked off the wood either side of the fret wire with some kind of tape (insulation tape, masking tape... not sure which) then rubbed each fret with a fine wire wool.

looked pretty good.

maybe some of the guitar guru's will have a better idea
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: MrBump on August 31, 2010, 06:39:31 AM
Yep, wire wool and a relatively light touch.

Might be weird, but I LOVE cleaning fretboards and frets...
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: Transcend on August 31, 2010, 08:30:38 AM
im pretty certain that ive read somewhere that lemon oil is bad for maple necks/fretboards.

However yeah wire wool is your best bet
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: horsehead on August 31, 2010, 09:07:07 AM
Never heard that about lemn oil before...who'd have thunk it?! Right wire wool it is, thanks guys
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: dave_mc on August 31, 2010, 09:59:20 AM
yeah i don't think you're meant to use lemon oil on maple...
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: 38thBeatle on August 31, 2010, 10:07:31 AM
And make sure that your pickups are protected against any little pieces of wire wool that might break off.
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: ToneMonkey on August 31, 2010, 10:07:49 AM
Isn't that because maple boards usually have a finish on them?

I use wire wool and sometimes a little used Auto Glym Metal Polish depending on the level of finger poo.
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: Ratrod on August 31, 2010, 11:21:22 AM
Use painter's tape to mask off the fretboard. Then go over the frets with wire wool. After that you can polish them with a metal polish like Wenol (FKA Pol).
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: AndyR on August 31, 2010, 01:15:13 PM
And make sure that your pickups are protected against any little pieces of wire wool that might break off.

+100 :lol:

And, yes, I do have experience of not doing this first...

Nowadays I just use the same artist's masking tape as I use to protect the board.

But, if you've already used wire wool anywhere near a guitar without covering the pickups first... ...Blu Tac is your friend :)

Might be weird, but I LOVE cleaning fretboards and frets...

Might? :lol:
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: Philly Q on August 31, 2010, 03:40:59 PM
Bear in mind that metal polish will produce a black residue.  It won't penetrate the finish on the board but you might want to clean it up before taking the masking tape off.
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: fr33man1 on August 31, 2010, 07:06:45 PM
My guitar tech covers pickup with paper (little wire coppers slide down the fretboard and since pickups are magnets, they can get stucked in there) then he takes some wood wax (im using cooking oil) and waxes the fretboard. Then some very very fine wire wool and you brush the board down, always going like the wood stripes. Finally you clean your fretboard and put strings.

Im doing it this way since he showed me how to. Its a bit fat a the first minutes of playing but then the board is really silky and comfy to play. Just beware on rosewood ones, they tend to absorb alot of oil so don't put too much or plays like butter will really make sense to your fingers.  :P
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: horsehead on February 13, 2011, 01:17:49 PM
what grade wire wool BTW?
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: Greatoliver on February 14, 2011, 06:25:14 PM
You can use T-Cut (a car polish).

Works wonders.
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: shobet on February 14, 2011, 06:38:17 PM
I've got a pile of the metal guards that go around the frets from stewmac - http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Fretting_supplies/Polishing_and_abrasives/Fingerboard_Guards.html?actn=100101&xst=3&xsr=12732

I use these with both 0000 grade wire wool and 3M polishing papers of various grades.

Just noticed they do these now as well - http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tools/Special_tools_for_Fretting/Fret_Dressing_Masks.html?actn=100101&xst=3&xsr=12732 a bit overkill for my needs though.

Just out of interest I've ordered one of the those Chrome Frets silky sting polishing kits as well. http://www.chromefrets.co.uk/
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: Afghan Dave on February 15, 2011, 06:06:34 AM
This looks AMAZING! :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYUqZjpwGoE&feature=player_embedded

http://www.floydupgrades.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=84&products_id=223
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on February 20, 2011, 12:52:11 AM
Use 0000 gauge wire wool (thats four zeros)
Best one is Liberon brand , but other makes are ok too


The Gorgomite stuff does look good too
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: AndyR on February 21, 2011, 08:08:55 AM
Yeah, I spotted this Gogomite stuff a while back (probably a post on here) and it seems to pop up every know and then - impressive claims where ever I've read about it.

Has anyone on here actually tried it yet?
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: Afghan Dave on February 21, 2011, 01:39:15 PM
I've been trying to find a UK source of Gorgomyte but no luck as yet...

"The GHS String Corporation is now a licensed distributor of Gorgomyte.
Now it's even easier to get hold of "The World's Best Fret & Fingerboard       
Conditioning Cloth"

Just visit any fine musical instrument retailer and ask for it by name, Gorgomyte


(cough) Feline... Hint, hint :P
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: AndyR on February 21, 2011, 01:55:16 PM
I've been trying to find a UK source of Gorgomyte but no luck as yet...

"The GHS String Corporation is now a licensed distributor of Gorgomyte.
Now it's even easier to get hold of "The World's Best Fret & Fingerboard       
Conditioning Cloth"

Just visit any fine musical instrument retailer and ask for it by name, Gorgomyte


(cough) Feline... Hint, hint :P

:lol:

Mine wasn't an obvious enough hint, was it?
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: Afghan Dave on February 21, 2011, 02:10:20 PM
I've been trying to find a UK source of Gorgomyte but no luck as yet...

"The GHS String Corporation is now a licensed distributor of Gorgomyte.
Now it's even easier to get hold of "The World's Best Fret & Fingerboard       
Conditioning Cloth"

Just visit any fine musical instrument retailer and ask for it by name, Gorgomyte


(cough) Feline... Hint, hint :P


:lol:

Mine wasn't an obvious enough hint, was it?


Ohh, you were suggesting that Feline should stock Gorgomyte?

Yes that would be a good idea as

Feline could also sell it on ebay because no one else is yet.
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: Kride on February 21, 2011, 03:50:09 PM
http://cgi.ebay.de/GHS-Gorgomyte-Pflegetuch-Gitarre-NEU-OVP-/230548705719?pt=Allgemeines_Musikinstrumente_Zubeh%C3%B6r&hash=item35adc611b7#ht_1139wt_1028

http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_trksid=p5197.m570.l1313&_nkw=gorgomyte&_sacat=See-All-Categories
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: shobet on February 21, 2011, 05:19:14 PM
I've tried that Chrome Frets stuff and it seems to work OK. However I'm not sure if I took long enough to remove the stuff I put on, I thought I did I was rubbing away for minutes (steady Afghan!) but after a while playing the guitars I'd done I had black residue on my fingers.

Out of interest, what's the difference between that Gorgomyte and the lighter grade 3M polishing papers?
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: AndyR on February 21, 2011, 06:02:35 PM
Out of interest, what's the difference between that Gorgomyte and the lighter grade 3M polishing papers?

It's a while since I read up on it, but I think it's impregnated with magic pixie dust... or something
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: shobet on February 21, 2011, 06:29:36 PM
It's a while since I read up on it, but I think it's impregnated with magic pixie dust... or something

Magic pixie dust usually means way more expensive doesn't it?
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: AndyR on February 21, 2011, 08:04:30 PM
It's a while since I read up on it, but I think it's impregnated with magic pixie dust... or something

Magic pixie dust usually means way more expensive doesn't it?

All depends on whether you've got a backroom full of pixies with no work permits churning it out for you...

But yeah, usually means you can charge more for it anyway...
Title: Re: Fret cleaning
Post by: horsehead on February 22, 2011, 01:03:03 PM
got some & now looking forward to doing some tests, let you all know how I balls up