Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Ginger Ninja on December 15, 2005, 10:53:28 AM
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Yeah so Im in the mood for playing on a Floyd, and im looking at guitars with Floyds and I really dont know what to get. I dont know that much about Floyds, but so far the guitars that caught my eye have been -
- Peavey EVH (Secondhand)
- Washburn Nuno Bettencourt N2
- Jackson DK2
I dont wanna spend too much on this guitar, I only want something to mess around on a Floyd with. But id also like a guitar with OK pickups, failing that I'l just stick Pigs in. But still.
Help me!
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you need to be very careful with floyd guitars- some of the licensed copies just plain suck, and won't hold tune.
That being said, some of the copies are very good, if not better than original floyd roses- things like ibanez edge (not edge III) and schallers.
for cheap, the best guitars with a decent floyd are, IMO:
ibanez s470- it has a zr trem, it's a floyd on ball bearings. It's about £340.
ibanez rg1570: it has an edge pro. It's prestige. £460 odd.
Schecter C1 FR: has an original floyd, and coil taps/splits. £400
Washburn x40pro: has a schaller floyd, and duncan custom custom/'59. £450?
That's all i can think of offhand.
IMO, all those pickups could do with being changed, but obviously the washburn has real duncans, so they should be a bit better. However, even the duncans won't compare to BK's, IMO (and pretty much anyone on the boards, i'd guess), and if I were to get that guitar, i'd switch them for something better...
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They Peavey EVH is a great guitar. A bit of a one trick pony with the stock pickups, but we know how to fix that. :wink:
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ESP M-II.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/mII_duncan.jpg)
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I have a washburn chicago series KC-70V. They're heavy guitars mate, holds tune with whatever you do on the floyd rose!!! Bit of a weak pick up, but that can be sorted!!!
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TO: that esp MII is liable to be about £1300+ here, i thought he wanted inexpensive?
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TO: that esp MII is liable to be about £1300+ here, i thought he wanted inexpensive?
What's "inexpensive"? He didn't say a specific amount. What's affordable to one guitarist may not be affordable to another. Also, I didn't say it has to be new.
I picked the guitar that I think is best for the job. Ultimately, it's up to Ginger Ninja, but imo, it's well worth the time to investigate.
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^true- i just figured by the other ones he was looking at that he wanted cheap-ish
EDIT: i haven't got to try those esp mii's, TO, are they any good? what's the nut width (i'm incredibly fussy, don't worry!)?
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It's a great guitar, or I would never recommend it, lol!
The nut width is about 1-5/8", 14" radius. Profile is great.
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one of my friends has a Dean superstrat type thing (not sure on the model) with a Floyd copy. It actually works great, its even easy to tune!
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This one?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/custom_zone.jpg)
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cheapish guitar that is good = 2nd hand.
try and score a used guitar.. charvel, jackson etc etc
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HAHA Ben - i played one of those custom zones the other day, expecting it to sound like ARSE, but i was actually pretty impressed. It was a luminous pink one, with a matching plastic fretboard, which felt like kacktack, but the rest of it didn't play or sound too bad for what it was (about £200 2nd hand)
*UPDATE* Also, i have a ZR tremolo on my Ibanez. You don't hear much about them; but it seems most of what you do hear is good! i love mine to pieces, since it feels so perfect, it has the Zero point system (which keeps it in tune and returns it to pitch amazingly), and a ball-bearing action aswell, which feels far superior to any other tremolo i've tried. Much much nicer than an original Floyd imho!
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Look for a secondhand Kramer or a larrivee or Hamer - something with a Floyd original - they are the best bet and go fairly cheaply
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This one?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/custom_zone.jpg)
Nope, its HSS pickups, and a cherry red colour.
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It's a great guitar, or I would never recommend it, lol!
The nut width is about 1-5/8", 14" radius. Profile is great.
dammit! i prefer 43mm (1 11/16")
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ah well, at least ibanez, jackson usa, fender and gibbos are 43mm... :twisted:
EDIT: thanks for the info, TO!
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How about an Ibanez s540? I have one spare. :wink:
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:o Thats gorgeous! how much is it going for?
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Thanks very much for your help everyone! Its muchly appreciated - as I know absolutely nothing about Floyds... But i have heard that the licensed ones are quite gash so i'l look for an original or something...
That ESP M-II is VERY nice, but i cant afford it. I played on one and loved it, but i dont have that sorta money! Inexpensive is £400-ish to me, so thats the kinda range im looking at.
Im looking at them Ibanez's now, i heard their floyd's are very good so i'l have a butchers. Im still in love with the Nuno, but if i can find something that looks nicer or something i'l go with that. Did look at Jackson/Charvel, very nice but they are cliched to metal which is nice, being a metalhead, but i dont want a 'metal' guitar if you get my drift...
Ginge
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I strongly suggest the Schecter's. They are amazing value for money and play pretty well. The hardware is top quality too.
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Why don't you have a look at the ESP Ltd models?
Another person local to me I see!
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:o Thats gorgeous! how much is it going for?
It's in for a pro setup right now. When it comes back I'll probably list in on eBay and hope to get something like £360 (~$650US).
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try this bad boy for £200...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/schecter-diamond-series-hard-case-2-pedals-2-tab-books_W0QQitemZ7375270621QQcategoryZ33037QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem