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Title: Instant vertigo?
Post by: shobet on September 15, 2010, 01:35:45 PM
Jebus H Christos, I've got sweaty palms and dirty kecks just from looking at this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txdv_oNq81I

Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: Dazza1004 on September 15, 2010, 01:50:20 PM
that was mad, most of the time he wasn't clipped on to anything.
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: tomjackson on September 15, 2010, 02:04:37 PM
I put masts up for a living, I certaily don't allow free climbing on my sites!

In this country you always need to be connected to a fall arrest system or use double lanyard so you are always attached to the structure.

I don't climb them though F$%k That!

Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: Matt77 on September 15, 2010, 02:25:19 PM
I can imagine the scene from the top

"damn it I needed a flathead screwdriver not a phillips!"
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: Transcend on September 15, 2010, 04:18:08 PM
thats one job i wouldnt like to do in cr@p weather.

I may have missed something completely here but what exactly are they going to do at the top? are they repairing something? it may have been mentioned at the beginning but ive forgotten.
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: Afghan Dave on September 15, 2010, 05:14:13 PM
I really do feel like my head is swimming...  :?

Amazing.
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: shobet on September 15, 2010, 05:50:23 PM
thats one job i wouldnt like to do in cr@p weather.

I may have missed something completely here but what exactly are they going to do at the top? are they repairing something? it may have been mentioned at the beginning but ive forgotten.

rewind not work on your 'puter? They're putting a new bulb in the fairy at the top of the tree.
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: Transcend on September 15, 2010, 07:00:41 PM
it does but i was on a mission to get to the chippy before it closed.
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: hunter on September 15, 2010, 09:12:22 PM

Oh man I feel sick now!!

This is pretty amazing!
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: Plexi Ken on September 15, 2010, 09:27:44 PM
I couldn't watch it all the way though... felt like I was falling :oops:
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: Philly Q on September 15, 2010, 09:57:29 PM
It didn't make me feel sick watching the video, but trying to do that in real life sure as hell would!

I don't really understand, though - if people routinely have to climb towers like that, why don't they make the ladders a bit safer?  They're 1700 feet up climbing a pole with nails sticking out the sides, FFS! 
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: mecca777 on September 15, 2010, 10:06:55 PM
It didn't make me feel sick watching the video, but trying to do that in real life sure as hell would!

I don't really understand, though - if people routinely have to climb towers like that, why don't they make the ladders a bit safer?  They're 1700 feet up climbing a pole with nails sticking out the sides, FFS! 

That's what I kept thinking; does it add so much weight and expense to put a cage around the outside of the ladder to ensure that nobody can lose their footing and fall a third of a mile to the ground? Or is that something which never happens anyway? How on earth do the companies which employ these workers handle the insurance side of things?

I say that's what I kept thinking, but of course all I could think while I was actually watching the video was "jesus jesus jesus I'd throw up". :)
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: FernandoDuarte on September 15, 2010, 11:50:20 PM
I'm really feeling a bit sick! I'm affraid of high, must say...

thats one job i wouldnt like to do in cr@p weather.

Usually, you just DON'T do it... Most safety laws say that even big windy condition you can't go to something like 50m high... imagine 1000m...
And you can't really go there with rains and lightning...
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: nfe on September 16, 2010, 12:20:15 PM
Video's been taken down.
 :(
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: tomjackson on September 16, 2010, 12:20:48 PM
It didn't make me feel sick watching the video, but trying to do that in real life sure as hell would!

I don't really understand, though - if people routinely have to climb towers like that, why don't they make the ladders a bit safer?  They're 1700 feet up climbing a pole with nails sticking out the sides, FFS! 

That's what I kept thinking; does it add so much weight and expense to put a cage around the outside of the ladder to ensure that nobody can lose their footing and fall a third of a mile to the ground? Or is that something which never happens anyway? How on earth do the companies which employ these workers handle the insurance side of things?

I say that's what I kept thinking, but of course all I could think while I was actually watching the video was "jesus jesus jesus I'd throw up". :)

It's to do with wind loadings, you can't just increase mass and surface area at the top of such a big structure without it acting as a giant sail.  Plus, you can't put things round the transmitter otherwise the signal will be impeded.

What they could do is put a latchway system in which is basically a tensioned cable that you latch on to with a harness and roller that goes along the cable, any sudden increase in speed (i.e. if you fall) and the roller jams closed like a seatbelt and you stop.

I think in this case the mast is so high maintaining it would be an issue (which would have to be regular due to the inclement weather at that height) and also if somebody did fall and activate the system they would get suspension trauma before anybody could get them down - there's not really room for the other guy to cut his harness and take his weight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_trauma

So that's why they are not connected.
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: shobet on September 16, 2010, 12:57:31 PM
It's still available elsewhere - http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/81100201/
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: nfe on September 16, 2010, 01:53:47 PM
Good grief.
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: Philly Q on September 16, 2010, 04:14:44 PM
I think in this case the mast is so high maintaining it would be an issue (which would have to be regular due to the inclement weather at that height) and also if somebody did fall and activate the system they would get suspension trauma before anybody could get them down - there's not really room for the other guy to cut his harness and take his weight.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_trauma

So that's why they are not connected.

That's interesting, never heard of suspension trauma before.

Quote from: Wikipedia
In a 2006 article on the Crucifixion of Jesus, Phillip Bishop and physiologist Brian Church suggest that suspension trauma is a cause of death in crucifixion.

They picked the perfect guys to write that article, didn't they?  :lol:
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: Afghan Dave on September 16, 2010, 05:38:59 PM
Suspension Trauma ? ...

(http://adishakti.org/images/inquisition_1.jpg)

Sound's like a band nfe would like!  :P
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: nfe on September 16, 2010, 06:32:32 PM
I've searched Suspension Trauma on myspace to no avail. :lol:

I bet they would have been more to other people's taste, actually. Sounds like the name of a "progressive" metal wankery mob.
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: tomjackson on September 16, 2010, 07:14:46 PM

And they would play all their songs with Suspended 2 and Suspended 4 chords  :D
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: Ian Price on September 16, 2010, 08:07:53 PM
Watching that video gave me the willies.
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: Ian Price on September 16, 2010, 08:32:47 PM
Quite a few incidents with radio towers on here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_catastrophic_collapses_of_radio_masts_and_towers

Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: clyde billt on September 16, 2010, 11:16:43 PM
Free climbing?. Not big or clever or necessary.

I do work at height and as a spark it's usually me that's carrying a toolbag hanging between me b*ll*cks.
I work on oil and gas platforms and production terminals doing electrical maintenance. I occasionally get to about 500 feet from the deck, plus whatever down to sea level but it's always on 2 ropes
I haven't been 1700 feet but after the first hundred feet or so it doesn't make much difference. If you fall (or even worse, drop something) it's gonna be a mess.
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: nfe on September 16, 2010, 11:25:17 PM
I haven't been 1700 feet but after the first hundred feet or so it doesn't make much difference. If you fall (or even worse, drop something) it's gonna be a mess.

Surely that's not entirely true, it might not make any difference to a person falling in terms of their chances of survival, but the chances of falling must be massively higher at 1700 feet than at 500, tiredness, the movement of the structure and the weather, aside from anything else, no?
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: clyde billt on September 16, 2010, 11:55:33 PM
I wouldn't say the chances of falling were significantly higher the higher you get.
The structures don't have big/fast movements.
No-one goes up any height to work if the weather's bad (it's hard enough getting me up when it's half decent), and it can be bad at any height.
And as an electrician it's in all my contracts to stop for a rest (and a brew up if at all possible) as regularly as needed
Title: Re: Instant vertigo?
Post by: nfe on September 17, 2010, 12:00:53 AM
Surely a structure as tall and thin as the one in the video must be susceptible to some movement? And at that height, it's surely a LONG time to get up and down, if you're halfway up and the weather turns bad?

I'm guessing like, I've no idea about such things, but I'd have been very surprised if you're no more likely to fall off that than something a kilometre lower.