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At The Back => The Dressing Room => Topic started by: Alex on September 22, 2010, 08:58:27 PM
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So.... my girlfriend and me moved and we like the place a lot. The only problem is that the small garden is crawling with spiders, quite some large ones as well (at least large enough that I can see the from the first floor window still).
Truly an off-topic topic, I guess.
Any advice how we can get rid of them? I torched some of the smaller ones with a lighter or vacuumed the ones in the house, but the bigger ones... well I'd need a bigger lighter for a start. Is there some "natural" remedy like some plant they don't like or something I can do against them? They crawl on the laundry if we hang them outside and freak my girlfriend out big time.
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Spiders kill flies. Which do you like least?
Anyway, no, nothing I know of except
(http://www.inthenews.co.uk/photo/john-goodman-gets-to-grips-with-spiders-in-the-film-arachnophobia-$7032447$300.jpg)
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wait a month.... its spider season
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Stop killing the poor wee guys!
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Stop killing the poor wee guys!
Yeah!
Perfectly harmless. Spiders in the UK arent venomous save in extremely exceptional circumstances (the proverbial escaped pets and ones that came here on a bunch of banana), dont carry diseases and even if they did dont have any interest in human food, so arent a vector for them.
I'm always happy to see a spider in the house. I think to myself 'you go kill the really annoying and filthy stuff for me mate, best of luck to ya!'.
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We've got thousands of the little buggers in the garden and a few MASSIVE ones in the house.... one's that you struggle to get a pint glass over.
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I'm always happy to see a spider in the house. I think to myself 'you go kill the really annoying and filthy stuff for me mate, best of luck to ya!'.
Never a truer word spoken!
I appreciate the hard working little critters..
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:lol: I feel your pain... although basically I agree with the other guys.
I'm not too keen on the bigger ones prowling around inside - if I can catch them and put them outside I will. And I do have some of that instinctive fear of them...
And when I was younger, I have been known to hoover them to placate a screaming other half if catching them was beyond my abilities at the time... luckily now the missus has more control over her fears of this sort of thing than I do :lol: (except moths for some strange inexplicable reason).
Like Wez sez though - it's spider season at the moment, they'll thin out again.
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Leave 'em alone!
Torched with a lighter indeed....! :o
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Yeah!
Perfectly harmless. Spiders in the UK arent venomous save in extremely exceptional circumstances (the proverbial escaped pets and ones that came here on a bunch of banana), dont carry diseases and even if they did dont have any interest in human food, so arent a vector for them.
you say that but...!
when my band was on tour we played in Italy and our singer thought he'd twisted his ankle but a day later in belgium, some kids pointed out that it was a spider bite. his ankle was swollen up like it was broken, and he could barely walk on it. (although he did play the set). afterwards he went to hospital. They told him it must have been a wolf spider, as its the only spider in Italy that will give you trouble, and its also found in the UK.
how accurate that all is, i dunno, but its what he was told and im no david bellamy.
a friend of mine also got bitten on the shoulder once somewhere in europe and the spider bite melted a hole in his flesh the size of a 1p. thats how all the guys at the belgian show recognised our singers problem as a spider bite.
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Learn to live with them. I think they are wonderful animals and never ever kill them. My brother is petrified of them and will run out of the house and yet they have never harmed him. I have been bitten by one abroad once and it was painful but I accepted it as one of those things that happens in life.
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I'm in the pro-spider camp.
My wife is pathologically adversed to spiders... A true phobia. So my job is generally to remove them from the house, given that I marginally prefer sharing my house with my wife than spiders.
Mark.
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You can't believe how much fear I've of spiders... is just in the phobia line :? :(
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Yeah!
Perfectly harmless. Spiders in the UK arent venomous save in extremely exceptional circumstances (the proverbial escaped pets and ones that came here on a bunch of banana), dont carry diseases and even if they did dont have any interest in human food, so arent a vector for them.
you say that but...!
when my band was on tour we played in Italy and our singer thought he'd twisted his ankle but a day later in belgium, some kids pointed out that it was a spider bite. his ankle was swollen up like it was broken, and he could barely walk on it. (although he did play the set). afterwards he went to hospital. They told him it must have been a wolf spider, as its the only spider in Italy that will give you trouble, and its also found in the UK.
how accurate that all is, i dunno, but its what he was told and im no david bellamy.
a friend of mine also got bitten on the shoulder once somewhere in europe and the spider bite melted a hole in his flesh the size of a 1p. thats how all the guys at the belgian show recognised our singers problem as a spider bite.
I didnt say spider bites cant hurt!
Fact is though its incredibly rare here.
If alex were in sydney and had a plague of funnel webs then he'd have a problem, but unless hes spectacularly unlucky the spiders are harmless, indeed helpfull.
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granted.
I guess other things are worse.
ive been bitten by an array of creatures. used to get horse-flys back home. much worse than spiders. which probably eat horse-flys
my mum had a huge phobia of spiders. and growing up i saw her freak out every time one was close by. I guess if you're around that behaviour as a tot then it must effect you growing up. I dislike them a fair but but i have a better tolerance. Though that tolerance has strangely decreased as ive got older.
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I use a spider catcher if there are big ones in the house (and we do get some big ones in the house!!), get them safely out into the garden where they belong! The little ones can stay, unless their webs are making a mess of the place, that is :)
Roo
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You guys gotta know the "red spider" from Brazil, it's like 1cm long, but if you can loose your leg in a week if don't go to the doctor...
Of course, the bigger the most intimidating :(
I saw one a "cousin" (I hope) of this red spider of like 12cm long on my wall... I was deadly scarred, took about half hour to get courage to kill it... hate this phobia :cry:
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Spiders in the UK are harmless and never that big as people with fears of them report. I like them and let them roam the house. They come out at night and keep things in order, I'd much rather have them than than whatever food they are eating. They are not aloud in the f-holes on my guitar though.
When I was in Australia I saw Wolf, Huntsman and Redback Spiders, the latter being found on my leg. Obviously my attitude there was slightly different and that particular Spider got squashed.
But spiders over here are freindly so don't go burning them or you will upset the Karma!
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I'm always happy to see a spider in the house. I think to myself 'you go kill the really annoying and filthy stuff for me mate, best of luck to ya!'.
+ 1 on that score, I go to great lengths in moving ones that have got stuck in the bath e.t.c - out to the nearest 'spider friendly' safe spot. They may not have the nicest appearance, but they are doing me a favour - and succeed in doing so with great intelligence and industry. :)
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Get some conkers. But good luck finding them.
They're all over my bathroom, at least the bath is clean and the toilet is... moderately clear. You just have to be quick with your business. It's like F1 racing going for your number 1/2s.
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You guys gotta know the "red spider" from Brazil, it's like 1cm long, but if you can loose your leg in a week if don't go to the doctor...
Of course, the bigger the most intimidating :(
I saw one a "cousin" (I hope) of this red spider of like 12cm long on my wall... I was deadly scarred, took about half hour to get courage to kill it... hate this phobia :cry:
yes, well, were I in your part of the world I'd be a little more judicious about what spiders I allow to live and dont.
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I love spiders. When me and the mrs find a spider that's about the only time I'm ever allowed to wear the trousers.
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I love spiders. When me and the mrs find a spider that's about the only time I'm ever allowed to wear the trousers.
:lol:
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You guys gotta know the "red spider" from Brazil, it's like 1cm long, but if you can loose your leg in a week if don't go to the doctor...
Of course, the bigger the most intimidating :(
I saw one a "cousin" (I hope) of this red spider of like 12cm long on my wall... I was deadly scarred, took about half hour to get courage to kill it... hate this phobia :cry:
yes, well, were I in your part of the world I'd be a little more judicious about what spiders I allow to live and dont.
:lol: +1
over here fear of spiders is kind of a phobia, in other parts of the world it's more a rational fear...
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You guys gotta know the "red spider" from Brazil, it's like 1cm long, but if you can loose your leg in a week if don't go to the doctor...
Of course, the bigger the most intimidating :(
I saw one a "cousin" (I hope) of this red spider of like 12cm long on my wall... I was deadly scarred, took about half hour to get courage to kill it... hate this phobia :cry:
yes, well, were I in your part of the world I'd be a little more judicious about what spiders I allow to live and dont.
:lol: +1
over here fear of spiders is kind of a phobia, in other parts of the world it's more a rational fear...
Especially in brazil. You may find a brazillian wandering spider in you shoe, with your foot, then you might die, and if you live (which in all fairness you probably will) you might never get it up again...
Thats a spider worth killing.
But youre likely to fully recover from bites from even the most dangerous spiders. black widows, funnel webs and brazillian wandering are the most lethal, and even they are less dangerous, statistically, than, say, changing a lightbulb or any car journey.
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I spent my whole month in Australia a few years ago petrified to so much as step on grass or walk through plantlife :lol:
All the while with my 9 year old cousin giving me
"C'mon Neil, for goodness sake! You're so silly! It's fiiiiiiine."
"That's as maybe Iona, I'll just stay on the pavement all the same"
:lol:
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Yes, we have some nasty spiders here... But I've, in deed, phobia of insects that non rational fear that you cannot think and act like a 3yo child with fear...
DO you know Cicada? that harmless insect that people put "cords" on they and get they flying like "pets"?? I fear it like it were a big alien trying to explode me... I can't get in the same room with this thing...
Seems like it doesn't live in Europe, so for those who don't know, here it is:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/Tibicen_linnei.jpg
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That thing is horrible!
I'd buy a f**king big spider for my pet just to eat that thing.
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Especially in brazil. You may find a brazillian wandering spider in you shoe, with your foot, then you might die, and if you live (which in all fairness you probably will) you might never get it up again...
Thats a spider worth killing.
But youre likely to fully recover from bites from even the most dangerous spiders. black widows, funnel webs and brazillian wandering are the most lethal, and even they are less dangerous, statistically, than, say, changing a lightbulb or any car journey.
changing a lightbulb? do you mean electrocution? Or falling off the chair? :lol:
But I'm always wary of statistics- unless it's something you have no control over yourself (and even then), statistics mean very little to the individual... I mean, there's not a 0.025% chance that lightbulb is going to electrocute me, it either is or it isn't, kind of thing. Plus you can minimise the risk by being extra careful, double- and triple-checking the electricity is off, maybe wearing rubber gloves and shoe soles (would that even help? :lol: ), etc. I mean, I'm guessing those odds are somewhat skewed by some people who decide that that light bulb must be changed right now, even though they're completely stoned... ditto driving. Now, if the eejit in the other car is such a bad driver that nomatter what you do you won't avoid him, you're obviously screwed, but you can certainly minimise the danger you put yourself in... again, how many people who die in accidents were driving badly themselves, or drunk or stoned?
Spiders would fall into the group where the statistics probably are important, if one just happens to be where you're walking... though even then you can minimise the risks by checking your shoes etc. before stepping into them...
EDIT: yeah I think I'd have a phobia of insects and spiders if I lived in brazil too, fernando. Not to worry, seems a perfectly legit fear... :lol:
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Especially in brazil. You may find a brazillian wandering spider in you shoe, with your foot, then you might die, and if you live (which in all fairness you probably will) you might never get it up again...
Thats a spider worth killing.
But youre likely to fully recover from bites from even the most dangerous spiders. black widows, funnel webs and brazillian wandering are the most lethal, and even they are less dangerous, statistically, than, say, changing a lightbulb or any car journey.
changing a lightbulb? do you mean electrocution? Or falling off the chair? :lol:
But I'm always wary of statistics- unless it's something you have no control over yourself (and even then), statistics mean very little to the individual... I mean, there's not a 0.025% chance that lightbulb is going to electrocute me, it either is or it isn't, kind of thing. Plus you can minimise the risk by being extra careful, double- and triple-checking the electricity is off, maybe wearing rubber gloves and shoe soles (would that even help? :lol: ), etc. I mean, I'm guessing those odds are somewhat skewed by some people who decide that that light bulb must be changed right now, even though they're completely stoned... ditto driving. Now, if the eejit in the other car is such a bad driver that nomatter what you do you won't avoid him, you're obviously screwed, but you can certainly minimise the danger you put yourself in... again, how many people who die in accidents were driving badly themselves, or drunk or stoned?
Spiders would fall into the group where the statistics probably are important, if one just happens to be where you're walking... though even then you can minimise the risks by checking your shoes etc. before stepping into them...
EDIT: yeah I think I'd have a phobia of insects and spiders if I lived in brazil too, fernando. Not to worry, seems a perfectly legit fear... :lol:
Yes, statistics have to be interpreted correctly, and true risk must take into account frequency of exposure, likelyhood of harm in any given exposure and any measures that can be taken to avoid the hazard involved.
Like falling down the stairs; in shear number its quite a big threat and the hazard posed peaks at 'death', but billions of steps are taken on stairs every day and we're all (or the vast majority of us) very accomplished stair users; the risk for any given step on a staircase, or flight of stairs, is very low indeed. And you can be careful to mitigate the risk.
But its the same with spiders. afaik there are no species of spiders that go out of their way to attack people; we arent on their menu and life isnt a b-movie. They attack if we both get close and threaten them (or their webs or eggs or whatever, in some cases). People (that know what they're doing) can handle very dangerous spiders, and by the same sorts of priniciples its a controlable risk.
I think its 13: people that have been killed by funnel webs in australia in the last 100 years. Out of I think 30 that have been killed in australia in the same time by any venomous spider. And most were children or very old. Thats one of the most venomous spiders around, that comes into contact with people a lot, and 13 deaths. None, I believe since the antivenom was developed in the 80s. Thats a very low risk, I dont care how you interpret the statistics!
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I'm always happy to see a spider in the house. I think to myself 'you go kill the really annoying and filthy stuff for me mate, best of luck to ya!'.
Never a truer word spoken!
I appreciate the hard working little critters..
and with 8 arms/legs if I could just train them to do refrets
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My Army mates out in Afghanistan and Iraq have been living with these little fellas for the last few years!
They're not technically spiders, but they are b@stards.. I'm so glad to live in Great Britain.
(http://www.camelspiders.net/large-camel-spider.jpg)
http://www.camelspiders.net/
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Shheeeeeee-it!
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those are almost as terrifying as line 6 spiders!
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those are almost as terrifying as line 6 spiders!
The similarities dont end there: apparently they make a variety of unpleasant noises as well
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Yes, I agree that they are useful animals and I wouldn't mind one or two now and then. It's just that my girlfriend said to the reply of MDV "yes, I'd rather have flies then!".
The irony is that she is from Venezuela and lived close to the rain forest, so she has seen very big and dangerous ones (I think the Black Widow is native there). She just really hates them and I find them... uncomfortable.
I was hoping that maybe there is some weed or plant they can't stand, kind of like cedar wood against moths. A natural remedy would have been nice.
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I was hoping that maybe there is some weed or plant they can't stand, kind of like cedar wood against moths. A natural remedy would have been nice.
I think the only "weed" that could help your girlfriend cope with her spider phobia is the class b smoking variety. :?
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I must admit that if I lived in a country with more aggressive and dangerous spiders I might be a little anti spider but the ones we have in Britain are welcome in my garden and I don't mind them in the house.
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My Army mates out in Afghanistan and Iraq have been living with these little fellas for the last few years!
They're not technically spiders, but they are b@stards.. I'm so glad to live in Great Britain.
http://www.camelspiders.net/
I've seen these pricks! I'd spend all my bullets just killing it!
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Spiders are evil. It's the way the little bastids move that f**ks me up. The faster they are the bigger problem I have. I can merrily deal with any of them that are smaller than say a 50p. I'll even put them outside without killing them. The fast moving mini-alien motherf**kers though, they have to die.
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Yes, statistics have to be interpreted correctly, and true risk must take into account frequency of exposure, likelyhood of harm in any given exposure and any measures that can be taken to avoid the hazard involved.
Like falling down the stairs; in shear number its quite a big threat and the hazard posed peaks at 'death', but billions of steps are taken on stairs every day and we're all (or the vast majority of us) very accomplished stair users; the risk for any given step on a staircase, or flight of stairs, is very low indeed. And you can be careful to mitigate the risk.
But its the same with spiders. afaik there are no species of spiders that go out of their way to attack people; we arent on their menu and life isnt a b-movie. They attack if we both get close and threaten them (or their webs or eggs or whatever, in some cases). People (that know what they're doing) can handle very dangerous spiders, and by the same sorts of priniciples its a controlable risk.
I think its 13: people that have been killed by funnel webs in australia in the last 100 years. Out of I think 30 that have been killed in australia in the same time by any venomous spider. And most were children or very old. Thats one of the most venomous spiders around, that comes into contact with people a lot, and 13 deaths. None, I believe since the antivenom was developed in the 80s. Thats a very low risk, I dont care how you interpret the statistics!
yep.
And yeah, i don't think there have been any deaths since they got the antivenom/antivenin (there's a difference but i can never remember what it is :lol: ) either.
Still scared of them, though. :lol:
don't like the look of those camel spiders at all o_O
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My Army mates out in Afghanistan and Iraq have been living with these little fellas for the last few years!
They're not technically spiders, but they are b@stards.. I'm so glad to live in Great Britain.
(http://www.camelspiders.net/large-camel-spider.jpg)
http://www.camelspiders.net/
for christ's sake!
i was about to post some pro-spider statements but then i saw THOSE and i literaly froze...
anyway i was very scared by spiders when i was younger, then i "healed" almost completely without a real reason... maybe the only logical one is that they eat insects, and i HATE those flying/walking/lurking basstards, enough to allow other unpleasant creatures to share my house... some cecko would be nicer, i know!
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Apparently, if you put little mounds of conkers by your doors they think that a rodent is nesting there and avoid it for fear of being eaten. Not sure if it works, and you have to bear in mind that this could become a self fulfilling prophecy and you swap your spider problem for a mouse problem.
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Apparently, if you put little mounds of conkers by your doors they think that a rodent is nesting there and avoid it for fear of being eaten. Not sure if it works, and you have to bear in mind that this could become a self fulfilling prophecy and you swap your spider problem for a mouse problem.
Errm... Surely that assumes that all spiders enter your home formally via the door before perambulating along through to reception where they are tasked with an unconventional work area such as "Alcove A" or "behind the fridge" :lol: :lol:
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Apparently, if you put little mounds of conkers by your doors they think that a rodent is nesting there and avoid it for fear of being eaten. Not sure if it works, and you have to bear in mind that this could become a self fulfilling prophecy and you swap your spider problem for a mouse problem.
Errm... Surely that assumes that all spiders enter your home formally via the door before perambulating along through to reception where they are tasked with an unconventional work area such as "Alcove A" or "behind the fridge" :lol: :lol:
:lol:
Spider CV
Long professional history of independently motivated hunting of buzzy and filthy things. Unobtrusive and works effectively with a minimum of webbing. Minimal venom toxicity and no history of biting humans. Is efficient in the home or garden and can work diligently in exchange for not being stepped on. Aversion to conkers.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_8280000/newsid_8289600/8289647.stm
£300 if you can prove a spider poops its 8 legged kecks at the sight of a conker
EDIT: hahah! 2009 Telegraph...
Stuart Hine, at the Natural History Museum, said as far as he knew there was no scientific evidence supporting the theory.
“Conkers does rhyme with bonkers and I know of no science behind this idea,” he said.
oh man. If only I could use simple rhyming to disprove arguments!
however...
the yoots know science
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/7890440/School-children-disprove-theory-that-spiders-are-scared-of-conkers.html
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those camel spiders are like: oh my days!!
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All I can say for certain is that Crabs aren't afraid of Nuts :? :P