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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Andrew W on September 24, 2010, 06:23:39 PM

Title: DIY guitar racks - IT'S FINISHED!
Post by: Andrew W on September 24, 2010, 06:23:39 PM
I'll soon be moving into a new, smaller, flat and as a result will have to move my small collection of electric guitars from individual stands to a rack.  I've had a bit of a look online and didn't like any of the ones I could find.  There were a few US based carpenters who make quite fancy ones that cost a fortune but nothing that really grabbed me so I've decided to have a go at designing one myself...

As I live in the middle of London I don't have access to a workshop but I've found a company in Hackney with an Epilog laser cutter who can cut sheets of 12mm plywood up to 900mm x 600mm in size.  So I've been designing a guitar rack that slots together (no tools needed I hope) and can be cut out of one sheet.  The design looks like this at present but I might refine it:

As the laser will cut it (I hope)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4148/5020862514_ccf3f4a46c_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_atrocity/5020862514/)

And assembled

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/5020862522_865046346d_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_atrocity/5020862522)

Before I commit to doing this I thought I'd see if anyone here has done anything similar and if so had any useful tips or experience?  I think the wood should be strong enough but if anyone has any advice I'm all ears.  Thanks!
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks
Post by: Dr. Stein on September 24, 2010, 06:35:56 PM
I'd be a bit concerned about it wobbling side to side and your guitars damaging each other that way. Looks cool though.

Your typical rockcase type affair might not be pretty but at least they're solid.
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks
Post by: WezV on September 24, 2010, 07:15:59 PM
that looks very clever, i would quite like to have something like that.

the only thing i would consider looking into is the angle the guitar will stand at, as a slight lean towards the back will feel much safer.  then its just a case of sorting out some suitable padding
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on September 24, 2010, 11:00:27 PM
I want an Epilog laser cutter - been lusting after one for a long time
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks
Post by: Andrew W on September 25, 2010, 03:45:21 PM
I want an Epilog laser cutter - been lusting after one for a long time
Are you after the ultimate scratch-plate cutting machine?

Thanks for the suggestion Wez, I will amend the design to build in a wee tilt backwards.  As to its stabiity, I think it really depends on the accuracy of the cuts, if they're pretty much dead-on it should be OK.  That said, I'm toying with adding some kind of bracing.
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks
Post by: dave_mc on September 25, 2010, 03:52:00 PM
that looks cool, but i have no idea about diy and whether or not that'd be stable... :lol:
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks
Post by: AndyR on September 25, 2010, 04:09:43 PM
That does look VERY cool :D

But I do suspect that you'll need some sort of cross-bracing at the back to stop it wobbling?

Put it this way - if I found them on sale on the web just like this, I'd be very interested, but I'd want to see one in the flesh, assembled, and give it a bit of a jiggle before I committed to buying.

EDIT: If it's just for you, I'd say do it as it is - you could always add cross-braces if it wobbles.
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks
Post by: Andrew W on September 25, 2010, 04:20:09 PM
It's just for me so I don't mind being a bit cavalier but equally I don't want to wake up one morning and find my guitars scattered across the living room. :) I'll do a bit more reseach on other slot together furniture I think just to be sure. 

If I do it, and it works, I'll make sure I upload the plans in case anyone else wants one.
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks
Post by: shobet on September 25, 2010, 06:21:23 PM
One made out of plumbing bits. http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-pvc-multiple-guitar-stand/
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on September 29, 2010, 08:29:25 PM
I want an Epilog laser cutter - been lusting after one for a long time
Are you after the ultimate scratch-plate cutting machine?


that's only the tip of the iceberg........I have a list of about 1000 different things I would do with it

Etching designs into BKP covers is just one cool idea
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks
Post by: Andrew W on December 12, 2010, 03:59:15 PM
Well this is one of my hare-brained schemes that didn't die on the vine.  I took your advice and made some tweaks to my design, mostly the addition of some pegs for extra structural support and from that drew up my design properly and made a maquette to check I was happy with it:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5205/5254565902_0ae342764b_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_atrocity/5254565902/)

I actually made a couple of maquettes because I learned from the first one that by offsetting the slots top and bottom I could create a single design that could be configured in multiple ways.  Having had a chat with the Epilog-equipped cutting folks at Cutlasercut (http://www.cutlasercut.com) in Hackney I learned that they could not cut one piece of 12mm plywood as it's too thick so I opted to cut 2x 3mm sheets and a 6mm sheet of MDF and from that I could glue the MDF into a plywood sandwich.  I went and picked up the cut pieces on Friday and did a test assembly:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5129/5253956611_78d29545e4_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_atrocity/5253956611/)

You can see the pegs I added to the design for rigidity here:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5244/5254565730_d7fa9914d5_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_atrocity/5254565730/)

I was pretty happy with this.  The laser cutting process is so precise that the pieces locked together absolutely perfectly with no extra sanding or cutting required.  I glued the plywood/MDF sandwich and reassembled the rack and put a couple of coats of varnish on it yesterday.  I'm still deliberating if I want to paint either the sides or the cross-pieces white for a sort Dieter Rams era Braun style finish but that's a decision that can wait a while.

Here's the finished rack:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5086/5253954521_f0d650999f_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_atrocity/5253954521/)

And here it is in situ:

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5205/5254565574_d02a1657a1_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_atrocity/5254565574/)

I'm really pleased with this, it's very sturdy and matches the style of our living room as well as a guitar rack could I think.  I need to clean up the vector drawing file and add some notes but I'll post the finished plans in an Epilog friendly file format in case anyone else wants to get this design cut for themselves.  Hopefully that will happen this week work permitting.
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks - IT'S FINISHED!
Post by: shobet on December 12, 2010, 04:27:53 PM
Top banana! What was the cost for getting this cut out to your specs?
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks - IT'S FINISHED!
Post by: Andrew W on December 12, 2010, 04:34:54 PM
Top banana! What was the cost for getting this cut out to your specs?
It was £90 including the materials.
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks - IT'S FINISHED!
Post by: JacksonRR on December 12, 2010, 04:51:33 PM
That's a nice looking rack! With the slot and tab construction it kind of reminds me of the little balsa Dinosaur models I put together as a kid. You should sell this idea to Ikea. They're all about packing stuff flat. I need rounder guitars.  Mine would not work so well here. :(
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks - IT'S FINISHED!
Post by: AndyR on December 12, 2010, 04:57:41 PM
Nice one, glad it worked out :D
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks - IT'S FINISHED!
Post by: shobet on December 12, 2010, 05:16:02 PM
That's a nice looking rack!

Where's Afghan when you need him? That's 2 he's missed in a week or so. I suspect onanism is to blame!
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks - IT'S FINISHED!
Post by: AndyR on December 12, 2010, 06:36:37 PM
:lol:
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks - IT'S FINISHED!
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on December 12, 2010, 07:49:34 PM
Awesome stuff - I'm dead impressed!

I'm looking to get a laser cutter some time next year hopefully (God willing) and am looking forward to the vast potential it will have - from simple stuff like custom etching on pickup covers cutting templates for a lot of what we do
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks - IT'S FINISHED!
Post by: Afghan Dave on December 12, 2010, 08:11:51 PM
Awesome stuff - I'm dead impressed!

I'm looking to get a laser cutter some time next year hopefully (God willing) and am looking forward to the vast potential it will have - from simple stuff like custom etching on pickup covers cutting templates for a lot of what we do

The new Feline "customer complaints" department...  :lol:

(http://ilmberger.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/goldfinger1.jpg)
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks - IT'S FINISHED!
Post by: Afghan Dave on December 12, 2010, 08:15:03 PM
That's a nice looking rack!

Where's Afghan when you need him? That's 2 he's missed in a week or so. I suspect onanism is to blame!

I'm losing my touch..

(http://www.meh.ro/thumbnail/2009_09/meh.ro219.jpg)
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks - IT'S FINISHED!
Post by: sgmypod on December 12, 2010, 10:08:59 PM
lovin the rack liking the epi whilshire as well
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks - IT'S FINISHED!
Post by: WezV on December 12, 2010, 10:26:34 PM
like
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks - IT'S FINISHED!
Post by: Andrew W on December 17, 2010, 10:15:21 AM
I've now uploaded the Adobe Illustrator file that was used by the laser cutter to my website.  If you want your own guitar rack, or to see what spec the drawings need to be for your own design, grab the file from the link below.  Cheers.

Link (http://www.andrew-whitehurst.net/guitarRack/guitarStandBlueprint.ai)
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks - IT'S FINISHED!
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on December 17, 2010, 10:40:11 AM
Awesome stuff - I'm dead impressed!

I'm looking to get a laser cutter some time next year hopefully (God willing) and am looking forward to the vast potential it will have - from simple stuff like custom etching on pickup covers cutting templates for a lot of what we do

The new Feline "custom etching & engraving" department...  :lol:

(http://ilmberger.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/goldfinger1.jpg)

Yesh Mr Goldfinger
Can I have "Nailbomb" etched down the middle if you please and maybe some flame patterns around it.
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks - IT'S FINISHED!
Post by: Andrew W on December 17, 2010, 10:48:13 AM
Awesome stuff - I'm dead impressed!

I'm looking to get a laser cutter some time next year hopefully (God willing) and am looking forward to the vast potential it will have - from simple stuff like custom etching on pickup covers cutting templates for a lot of what we do

The new Feline "custom etching & engraving" department...  :lol:

(http://ilmberger.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/goldfinger1.jpg)

Yesh Mr Goldfinger
Can I have "Nailbomb" etched down the middle if you please and maybe some flame patterns around it.

Wouldn't "Miracle Man" be more appropriate?
Title: Re: DIY guitar racks
Post by: wardieboy on December 18, 2010, 06:00:48 PM
One made out of plumbing bits. http://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-pvc-multiple-guitar-stand/

Thanks for the link, I ended up making this rack today. I used 32mm pipe to make it a little more sturdy and added 2 uprights to ensure stability. All I need to do now is glue the parts in there final position and add some lagging to protect the guitars. I think I'll paint it black.

All the parts came in at £25, well chuffed to have a 5 guitar rack at this price.