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Title: changing tastes
Post by: gwEm on October 24, 2010, 12:23:21 AM
i don't know if its a question of getting old, finding better stuff, boredom, or just your own personal situation.

anyway i was thinking tonight about the posts we sometimes have about your favourite or most inspirational guitarist.

when i first joined this forum a few years ago, i was all about iommi and brian tatler. now my favourites are michael schenker and uli jon roth. i don't dislike my old favourites of course, but nevertheless its funny to think about why we move on tastewise, as i surely have.. i'm more interested in melodic leads than catchy riffs these days.

my taste in guitars is changing too, i'm almost ready to call myself a strat man, which i never would have said when i was starting out

does anyone else have something to say in this line?
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 24, 2010, 12:52:28 AM
Yes - it's sad to think of that Gibson V90 going unloved 8)
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: Fourth Feline on October 24, 2010, 12:55:13 AM
For me it's about 'drilling down' - and the way that we start off at what seems a good point of entry, then find ourselves drawn towards the underlying qualities that made the initial attraction work so well. The Riff reveals the interval ,  the interval reveals the relationship to the structure e.t.c.  With Music being an intimate relationship, we want to find out more about the object(s) of our desire ; who they 'loved' before - and what other people find attractive, in case we are missing out on the ' main deal' .

For me it was  ( 70's ) Rock / Metal, then Blues >  Rock / Blues > Jazz flavoured Blues > Singer / Songwriter stuff  > Jazz Melodies.

Of course , from a higher perspective ( meaning of course not an elitist perspective , but the age / time in our lives, when we want to slow down, observe and reflect more ) - it all connects . We find ourselves wanting  to climb inside the engine and appreciate the engineering  more, seperate the components and watch them move . The power of simplicity ;  what 'is' before we  filter it, dilute it or alter it.

The last component perhaps being,  when we no longer need to look the part, but do want to be the part. When we place more value in manifesting the Art in ourselves, instead of wanting ouselves to be glorified by the Art.
We eventually love the music, more than the kudos of being seen out with it.  

The great thing about any true Art / skill / Music - is that it introduces us to such a huge arena of ideas and methods,  that it takes a whole life time to explore only parts of.  To enjoy not just the product, but the process. :)

 
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 24, 2010, 01:00:27 AM
I find I gain new fondness for music that I once loved and fell out of favour for whatever reason

I still love George Lynch but really only his Dokken era stuff
I find myself revisiting my love of Kiss again - I was off them for a while because of there being too much hype since the reunion in 1996. Now that has calmed down I'm finding myself just quietly loving the riffs and catchy tunes that I first fell in love with as a 15 year old- mainly the first 8 albums with Ace

I still adore both Schenker brothers, MAtthias Jabs , John Norum, Dave Meniketti  etc

Recently enjoying Accept again - new album is great!
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: gwEm on October 24, 2010, 01:03:27 AM
Yes - it's sad to think of that Gibson V90 going unloved 8)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: Twinfan on October 24, 2010, 01:25:53 AM
I've mellowed more as I've got older and I LOVE the Black Crowes more than most things.  I think discovering the Allman Brothers Blues Band live at the Fillmore East put me down that path...
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: WezV on October 24, 2010, 02:23:07 AM
i went to see korn a week or so ago.

I went to see them because a close mate was playing drums in a band that were supporting them.  I was expecting it to be a bit shite.  I have not really listened to korn since i was 15 (after the first album).

It was awesome and i $%&#ing loved it.... i really loved it... a lot  more tha i expected to!

Maybe when i was 15 and calling them sellouts i was wrong.... Who knows?

But i also like a lot more than i did as a 15 year old korn fan.

Its weird how something from just the right time can make me dance like a $%&#ing tosser despite of all the things i have grown to love since
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: 38thBeatle on October 24, 2010, 07:54:09 AM
My tastes are pretty much the same in terms of my favourites but I find myself listening to other types of music and in many cases finding new stuff to like. I have become more open minded as I have aged.
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: MrBump on October 24, 2010, 10:11:18 AM
I don't think it's about age as such, it's about experience - you can't age without gaining experience.

I think that maybe my tastes have mellowed.  I also think that I'm more open to new thinks as I experience more - listening to NFEs "hell music" for example - I know that I wouldn't have even bothered trying in my 20s. 
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: Philly Q on October 24, 2010, 10:25:55 AM
Yes - it's sad to think of that Gibson V90 going unloved 8)

 :lol:


My musical tastes haven't changed very much over the years, certainly not since I joined this forum.  I still like a lot of '70s hard rock, '80s hair metal, '80s thrash, those great late '80s/early '90s band like King's X, Warrior Soul and Living Colour, a bit of grunge (even though it did kill hair metal), a bit of doom/stoner (minus the herbal cigarettes).  My favourite players rotate a bit but they're still basically the same guys I got into when I was 16/17 - Robin Trower, Leslie West, Ritchie Blackmore, Ronnie Montrose, Alex Lifeson, Tony Iommi, Rick Derringer, anyone who's ever been in Scorpions or Wishbone Ash....

The main change for me recently, as often mentioned, is that I find it hard to get into much new music (I do try... sometimes).  Instead  I'm delving back in time and getting into stuff I missed when I was young.  I was never into punk in the late 70's, but I suppose I was unconciously infected by the general contempt of flares, long greasy hair, cheesecloth, patchouli and concept albums (yes I am talking prog!).  Now the early '70s seems to get ever-more-cool the older I get.


Guitar-wise.... that's a different story.  My tastes have definitely changed - maybe not radically - and this forum has certainly played its part!  I don't think I would have bought and sold so many guitars in recent years without you lot fuelling my GAS.  And I don't think I'd have bought such expensive stuff without seeing certain people ([cough]Twinfan[/cough]) buying crazily expensive stuff!  :lol:

Five years ago I was into SGs and Vs, with occasional forays into Fender land.  I still like SGs; I still like Vs, but I've realised they look better on a tall skinny chap like gwEm than they do on me....  Now I've focused in on simple, uncluttered guitars with a minimum of bling - Teles, Juniors, Specials (although I'm still not 100% sure about P-90s).

But who knows, in another five years it may be flame maple, Floyds and BC Rich Ironbirds... watch this space.
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: James C on October 24, 2010, 10:36:21 AM
When i first started getting into guitar playing it was Iron Maiden (specifically Adrian Smiths playing) and Gary Moore, I pretty much listened to Iron Maiden, SRV, Gary Moore and UFO exclusively, now i find i'm listening to Testament, Frank Zappa, Nevermore, Periphery, Foreigner, Toto and loads of others.

My tastes seem to bee in a constant state of change from one minute to the next, I'm recording 3 minute instrumental folk songs in DADGAD followed by 7 minute Prog Metal in Drop Ab.

I waiting for the day when my tastes settle down a bit. As for guitars, I have to stop telling myself that 'I am an [insert guitar model] player' and just find guitars that play well and buy them, use them and stop GAS'ing
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: gwEm on October 24, 2010, 11:27:35 AM
i agree with philly that this forum has played its part in showing me new stuff. i tried some cheap strats at first, and thought they were all nasty thin sounding guitars, couldn't understand why they were so popular. as a result of discussions here i listened to 'tokyo tapes' and found the lead guitar parts on that were bloody good and absolutely my taste. i also heard rainbow's 'rising' and loved the tone. i gave strats another go, and philking let me try out some really good ones. starting to see what they were about i've been dabbling in strats myself, and now i can see what all the fuss is.
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: Twinfan on October 24, 2010, 12:13:19 PM
I don't think I would have bought and sold so many guitars in recent years without you lot fuelling my GAS.  And I don't think I'd have bought such expensive stuff without seeing certain people ([cough]Twinfan[/cough]) buying crazily expensive stuff!  :lol:

Ahem.  Guilty as charged.  Sorry  :oops:
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: Philly Q on October 24, 2010, 09:51:32 PM
I don't think I would have bought and sold so many guitars in recent years without you lot fuelling my GAS.  And I don't think I'd have bought such expensive stuff without seeing certain people ([cough]Twinfan[/cough]) buying crazily expensive stuff!  :lol:

Ahem.  Guilty as charged.  Sorry  :oops:

No worries Dave!  I'm still well under £2,000 as my upper limit.... can't see me crossing that Rubicon any time soon!  :wink:
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: Twinfan on October 24, 2010, 10:05:59 PM
You're missing out on some great guitars Phil!  I wouldn't part with my Pearly Gates or Modern Eagle.  Truly incredible, and the reason I've sold so many others.  Can't see me dropping any of the current stable though, they're all complete belters!
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: Philly Q on October 24, 2010, 10:28:50 PM
Well, I'll probably get there one day... a Fender Relic, in all likelihood.

But with my taste for the plain and simple, even the PRS models I like don't really nudge the £2,000 mark.  And as for Gibson, I'm not interested in paying Custom Shop prices for VOS Juniors or Specials - it almost seems to defeat the object of such simple guitars. 

(There are some nice Limited Edition SG Customs around at the moment, though - but they're closer to £3,000!  :o )

Time will tell......

Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: Ian Price on October 25, 2010, 06:24:19 PM
Well, I'll probably get there one day... a Fender Relic, in all likelihood.

I'll be back there one day. Not sure if it will be a tele or strat though. Probably a tele/esquire.

my taste in guitars is changing too, i'm almost ready to call myself a strat man, which i never would have said when i was starting out

I've been from Les Paul to Strat to Tele in the space of about 5 years. I'm pretty much all tele now!
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: _tom_ on October 25, 2010, 08:34:37 PM
Around when I first signed up I was really into a load of cheesy prog rock/metal and that sort of thing. Now I can't bloody stand the stuff :lol: Tastes have gone in more of a punk/hardcore direction and I'm also listening to quite a bit of electronic stuff now (16bit, Deadmau5, Electro Nation etc).

Guitar wise I still like my Les Pauls but overall much prefer my SG now. Still not sold on Fender-styles, just don't feel right to me.
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: WezV on October 25, 2010, 08:44:04 PM
my guitar tastes have definately got less kitsch as i have got older.... my little teisco collection has all gone now :)
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: Telerocker on October 28, 2010, 12:44:00 AM
Uli Roth is very underestimated. Great tone, smooth playing. Tokyo Tapes lies somewhere in the cellar. Have to dig it up.
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: Oli on October 28, 2010, 01:20:37 AM
If you'd told me a couple of years ago that i'd be listening to Jazz and Bluegrass, you'd have been branded a madman... it's funny how tastes change over the years, but also quite interesting!
Title: Re: changing tastes
Post by: Telerocker on October 29, 2010, 07:47:40 PM
I'm far away now from anything that's metal. Listening to Danny Gatton (the master of the telecaster, sadly he died), John Hiatt, Kravitz, Hendrix, Carl Verheyen, Eric Johnson, world music, jazzy stuff..