Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: bucketshred on October 29, 2010, 08:18:13 AM
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http://www2.gibson.com/Products/Electric-Guitars/Firebird/Gibson-USA/Firebird-X.aspx
WHAT THE HELL IS THAT?!
Ash body
Robo Tuners
Maple Neck
Brazilian Marblewood Fretboard
Alnico B & N pickups with a Ceramic Middle
11 position gear shift knob
Built in Mod, Echo/Reverb & Distortion, EQ and compression
'pickup programming' switch
Piezo Bridge
Oh Gibson, please take a not from Fender's book and produce some quality instruments at a decent cost rather than investing in cr@p like this.
Paddy
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Jeez - that looks more like a kids toy!
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Well it is nearly Halloween and that is really monstrous so I suppose it's appropraite for the time of year. I can think of other things I'd rather spend five and a half grand on, pretty much anything else that costs five and a half grand now I come to think of it. :|
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It looks like a boy racer guitar, like it would belong in the back of one of those souped up saxos with the two tone purple paint, the blue lights under the sills, a broken treble setting on the stereo and with an empty catering size tin of beans for an exhaust.
Mind you the first thing that popped into my head was 'Oh it's a blinged up Jackson Dominion!'.
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Shockingly shite.
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wow...
that is pretty hideous.
is it reeeeeeaaaaalllly that innovative to have any of those features on a guitar now?
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Oh dear PDT_044
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watch the launch vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkFGgVNXDWM&feature=player_embedded
can they really afford to keep making these mistakes!
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Except it's not even like a 'souped up boy racer guitar' (surely that accolade is always won by a pointy dean of some type). It's got those horrible tele/jazz/stang rounded, bulbous corners.
This is certainly one of the worst looking and most poorly designed guitars I've seen for a long time.
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yo, that video is terrible.
"nobody has looked at the guitar for quite some time blah blah blah...."
I think other people have made more innovative steps away from the traditional guitar while keeping things sensible and aesthetically pleasing. Steinbergers might polarize opinion on looks but its just one example.
The keep saying they are historically a big innovator when it comes to guitar, and this has always been the case and they carry it forward. I just don't see it.
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Except it's not even like a 'souped up boy racer guitar' (surely that accolade is always won by a pointy dean of some type). It's got those horrible tele/jazz/stang rounded, bulbous corners.
This is certainly one of the worst looking and most poorly designed guitars I've seen for a long time.
Nope the pointy deans are the American muscle cars that don't do corners. That gibson is most definitely a saxo/corsa/civic/fiesta derivative!
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Except it's not even like a 'souped up boy racer guitar' (surely that accolade is always won by a pointy dean of some type). It's got those horrible tele/jazz/stang rounded, bulbous corners.
This is certainly one of the worst looking and most poorly designed guitars I've seen for a long time.
Nope the pointy deans are the American muscle cars that don't do corners. That gibson is most definitely a saxo/corsa/civic/fiesta derivative!
It's a nova with foot-well lights and a fake carbon fibre dash.
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awful
what a mistake
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I think I've seen uglier guitars. The design isn't that awful to me, but the technological ideas are far from apealing!!!
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Horrible. It appears to be almost universally hated. What I can't understand is market research? Do they do any? Obviously not and if they do - who the hell do they ask? David Blunketts dog by the look of it.
Desperate :(
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I've said plenty about what I don't like about Gibson before.
I like the fact they let people leave such negative comments on their official website. Some are quite amusing
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Well OK, let's try to get some positives....
I don't hate the body shape
The pickups, in themselves, look cool
The case is really nice!
The electronics don't appeal to me personally, but I (hesitantly) applaud Gibson for trying to embrace new technology... the controls for all that gubbins were always going to look unwieldy, but I hate the multi-coloured switches and knobs (and those shiteous chrome surrounds on the switches). :?
What I really can't forgive, as always, are the cosmetics - why do they have to throw everything but the kitchen sink at it? Abalone inlays which don't match anything else on the guitar. A silly truncated headstock (why is it bound when nothing else is?). And just for the hell of it, why not experiment with some wildly figured fingerboard wood which totally destroys any last vestige of the sleek, hi-tech look they were presumably aiming for?
If that was in black, with an unadorned ebony board and the chrome hardware, it would still look like a toy but at least it might appeal to somebody.
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i think they should have put the same technology in a new version of the Gibson RD Artist.
pay homage to your history while still trying to push things forward... and at least the RD already has its fans.
It would still split the crowd - but not alienate the whole crowd
now use this new (not a) firebird shape on some £400 retro styled guitars with some split scratchplate design and it may just work
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i think they should have put the same technology in a new version of the Gibson RD Artist.
pay homage to your history while still trying to push things forward... and at least the RD already has its fans.
And it already had some weird electronics.
You're right, good idea.
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This is the first time I actually cried over the death of a tree.
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i think they should have put the same technology in a new version of the Gibson RD Artist.
pay homage to your history while still trying to push things forward... and at least the RD already has its fans.
It would still split the crowd - but not alienate the whole crowd
now use this new (not a) firebird shape on some £400 retro styled guitars with some split scratchplate design and it may just work
I agree, make it simple and you could have an interesting alternative/punk type guitar. Like Philly, I'm not sure I like the shape but I don't hate it. Firebird pickups just look so cool 8)
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You've just witnessed the death of Gibson. The video of the launch was painfully pathetic. Gibson almost went under in the 80's but I wouldn't be surprised if there's going to be a slow and painful death of the company in the coming years.
Actually, Gibson already started going down hill a couple of years ago.
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They've lost it with the Hendrix Strat, the Zoot SG, the Dark Tiger as well as 8,000$ Historic Les Pauls :x
They've lost it long time ago unfortunately.
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They seem to be hell bent on producing something groundbreaking. The electric guitar was groundbreaking in the 50's and they innovated at that time but many of the parameters of the modern electric guitar were set then so the scope to produce something totally different is much reduced.
I understand what they are trying to do but the market doesn't want it or isn't ready for it and the aesthetics are not the best.
There is nothing innovative about what Fender have done over the last few years but you have to say as a business they have succeeded
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Fender haven't innovated, they've just always provided the customer with what they want.
Paddy
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Oh dear. I guess after the Les Paul Tributes they had to balance out the wackiness somehow.
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awful
what a mistake
but it does have 23 frets ;)
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Dear Gibson,
Instead of making utter rubbish why not build some LPs with spalted maple and other nice tops, you'd shift a load.
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You would think that anyone with sense would look at what guitar players want from gibson and do that.
Top requests, you see them all the time
- Better QC
- More affordable models with the 'gibson' stamp on them
And what they consistently do is...well, this. Utterly demented, absurd shite. If someone told me that Henry was having a big joke, or that he hated the company and that his dad used to beat him with an SG as a child and hes dedicated his life to destroying Gibosn from within by making it a laughing stock, synonymous with really, really bad guitars and really, really bad ideas then I'd believe them without a single problem.
Its like they're still in 1957 and Leo Fenders words are ringing in their ears 'you dont do anything new' and they're trying to repeat the V and explorer again and again. Plus they're obvioulsy WAY too close to the jack daniels distilery.
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Tonally interesting, looks, uggghhhhh
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It's $5500!!!
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It's $5500!!!
Well that seals it! Where's my credit card?
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yo, that video is terrible.
"nobody has looked at the guitar for quite some time blah blah blah...."
I think other people have made more innovative steps away from the traditional guitar while keeping things sensible and aesthetically pleasing. Steinbergers might polarize opinion on looks but its just one example.
The keep saying they are historically a big innovator when it comes to guitar, and this has always been the case and they carry it forward. I just don't see it.
You don't even have to look to something as radical as a Steinberger - how about Tom Anderson and Suhr with their new vulcanized maple necks and Vigier with the 90/10 neck? Those are HUGE leaps forward. Necks that need little to no adjustments is an invaluable leap forward in technology that has practical real world use and value. How about using different materials like Flaxwood or offering incredible value and tons of options like G&L? There are a million ways to innovate without cramming a bunch of useless cr@p into a very aesthetically questionable design.
I almost went to this thing. Now I'm kicking myself for not going - nothing would have given me more sick pleasure than the douche chills and schadenfreude I would have got watching Henry do his best Steve Jobs impression.
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Fender haven't innovated, they've just always provided the customer with what they want.
Yep - and they dropped the VG strat pretty quickly (at least I think they did)
I've just watched the launch video. The loooooooongest 2 minutes of my life. I could do much better than that and would cost them much less money.
I've always said that I'd want a nice LP or a 335 from Gibson - I might just try Tokai or something else instead now. Something about Gibson stinks (arrogance I reckon) and it's actually putting me off of the models that made them such a big name.
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I've just watched the launch video. The loooooooongest 2 minutes of my life. I could do much better than that and would cost them much less money.
It reminded me of one of those terrible, embarrassing presentations they do on The Apprentice. :lol:
I've always said that I'd want a nice LP or a 335 from Gibson - I might just try Tokai or something else instead now. Something about Gibson stinks (arrogance I reckon) and it's actually putting me off of the models that made them such a big name.
Funnily enough, I've spent much of this week scouring the net for Gibsons!
Obviously now I've switched my attention to the Firebird X. :wink:
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THIS has much more appeal...
http://www.espguitars.com/guitars_phoenix.html
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THIS has much more appeal...
http://www.espguitars.com/guitars_phoenix.html
and it has an RD vibe to it.
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Fender haven't innovated, they've just always provided the customer with what they want.
Yep - and they dropped the VG strat pretty quickly (at least I think they did)
I've just watched the launch video. The loooooooongest 2 minutes of my life. I could do much better than that and would cost them much less money.
I've always said that I'd want a nice LP or a 335 from Gibson - I might just try Tokai or something else instead now. Something about Gibson stinks (arrogance I reckon) and it's actually putting me off of the models that made them such a big name.
I think Heritage is better for a lower price. If they are still in production I don't know.
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THIS has much more appeal...
http://www.espguitars.com/guitars_phoenix.html
It's very cool, but to be fair (to Gibson) that ESP guitar wouldn't exist without the original Gibson design. Even the name is just a play on Firebird!
It is a very intelligent variation on the Firebird theme, though. Gibson only seem to be able to come up with worse versions of their designs.
I wish ESP guitars didn't all have "Thin U" necks :( . They make some good stuff.
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THIS has much more appeal...
http://www.espguitars.com/guitars_phoenix.html
and it has an RD vibe to it.
I love the RD. never played one though, and the gubbins in it puts me off a little, but i think the shape is great.
that ESP that is half way between the RD and Firebird isn't to my tastes, thought i prefer it to the fisher price firebird x shape.
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Master volume and two tone controls
Simple up/down toggle switch to facilitate program changes on-the-fly
Built-in auto-chromatic tuner
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Stereo/headphone output on 1/4 in. TRS connector
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Shockingly shitee.
Nice quote Dave............utter cr@p wouldnt have have it for nowt......I would have to be paid to play it
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I've just watched the launch video. The loooooooongest 2 minutes of my life. I could do much better than that and would cost them much less money.
It reminded me of one of those terrible, embarrassing presentations they do on The Apprentice. :lol:
like this one? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxi6QDwQyLU
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Just been brave enough to watch the demo vid/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhyWlF6tWig (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhyWlF6tWig)
I feel sorry for the guy that had to demo it. Some of the sounds are okayish but for $5500 I would expect loads more. The fuzz is pretty shocking.
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wow... wow...
so bad. sooooo bad.
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$5500! I wouldn't give them steam off my piss for it
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my goodness... it looks like some 70s japanese robot...
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i heard that moody rosewood that got from Madagascar is now being used to make a giant pink fuzz lined coffin to stick the Gibson corporation inside
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It doesn't look quite as hideous in that video as it does in the picture but nevertheless I would suggest that Gibson stop giving LSD to their design department* . As for the on board stuff- makes it a gimmick guitar and technology dates things.
*( legal note: this is for the purposes of humour and any is in no way an allegation that Gibson distributes mind altering drugs to staff, design or otherwise. Gibson is known to be an entirely ethical employer with the wellbeing of employees being one of the cornerstones of its longevity and success- along with innovative guitar design)
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Oh dear oh dear oh dear...
I try really hard, in all of my internet rambling, to abide by something my gran taught me, (probably back in the late 60s I'd guess...):
"If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all"
... so... wot the f**k I'm doing posting in this particular thread I really do not know :lol:
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THIS has much more appeal...
http://www.espguitars.com/guitars_phoenix.html
It's very cool, but to be fair (to Gibson) that ESP guitar wouldn't exist without the original Gibson design. Even the name is just a play on Firebird!
It is a very intelligent variation on the Firebird theme, though. Gibson only seem to be able to come up with worse versions of their designs.
I wish ESP guitars didn't all have "Thin U" necks :( . They make some good stuff.
The thin U isn't as slim as Ibanez necks, I used to have a chart with the neck profiles ESP uses and it is 20mm at first fret (Ibanez Wizard are usually 17mm). The Ultra thin is 19mm or so. 1mm does make a big difference in feel though, I think the big Gibson bats are only 22 or 23mm actually. Doesn't sound like much, but makes a big difference in feel.
I too, feel the ESP necks could be a bit meatier though. At least they are nicely rounded in terms of radius.
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THIS has much more appeal...
http://www.espguitars.com/guitars_phoenix.html
It's very cool, but to be fair (to Gibson) that ESP guitar wouldn't exist without the original Gibson design. Even the name is just a play on Firebird!
It is a very intelligent variation on the Firebird theme, though. Gibson only seem to be able to come up with worse versions of their designs.
I wish ESP guitars didn't all have "Thin U" necks :( . They make some good stuff.
The thin U isn't as slim as Ibanez necks, I used to have a chart with the neck profiles ESP uses and it is 20mm at first fret (Ibanez Wizard are usually 17mm). The Ultra thin is 19mm or so. 1mm does make a big difference in feel though, I think the big Gibson bats are only 22 or 23mm actually. Doesn't sound like much, but makes a big difference in feel.
I too, feel the ESP necks could be a bit meatier though. At least they are nicely rounded in terms of radius.
my EC1000 has an awesome neck, not too thin and not too differente from my gibson 60s
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WTF is that shitee ?! PDT_047
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$5500! I wouldn't give them steam off my piss for it
+1
but... is this the money they are asking for this thing or is this the money they would offer you if you play one of those PDT_027
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WTF is that shiteee ?! PDT_047
You know when someone dies, and they still burp and fart and their hair and toenails keep growing? The firebird X is basically that, but for Gibson.
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WTF is that shiteeee ?! PDT_047
You know when someone dies, and they still burp and fart and their hair and toenails keep growing? The firebird X is basically that, but for Gibson.
:lol:
Makes me wish I'd gone as a Firebird X for Hallowe'en.
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WTF is that shiteeee ?! PDT_047
You know when someone dies, and they still burp and fart and their hair and toenails keep growing? The firebird X is basically that, but for Gibson.
:lol:
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WTF is that shiteeee ?! PDT_047
You know when someone dies, and they still burp and fart and their hair and toenails keep growing? The firebird X is basically that, but for Gibson.
:lol: :lol:
i just wonder if anyone would really buy such a putrid abortion!
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i heard that moody rosewood that got from Madagascar is now being used to make a giant pink fuzz lined coffin to stick the Gibson corporation inside
Screw that. Moody rosewood from Madagascar is good stuff - better for guitars than coffins. Cardbord box buried under a tree for the green option. Chains & the North Sea for the non-green!
Anyway... The LP forums are going mental, unmoderated comments on the Gibson site are hilarious, and... well... oh dear.
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I've said plenty about what I don't like about Gibson before.
I like the fact they let people leave such negative comments on their official website. Some are quite amusing
At first they tried to censor negative comments on their site but it was like fighting a tsunami and Gibson was overwhelmed by the tide.
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My favourite quote from the comment on Gibson's site:
"One of the innovations Gibson failed to include was a combination GPS/homing device imbedded in the Firebird X, which allows the guitar to transport itself to the nearest wood chipper."
I' not a fan.
I noticed that the very few people defending it all says it "for the new generation" and "not for the old gits" and such. Seems they have to make everyone else wrong for not liking this $5570 pile of firewood.
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It's vile.
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My favourite quote from the comment on Gibson's site:
"One of the innovations Gibson failed to include was a combination GPS/homing device imbedded in the Firebird X, which allows the guitar to transport itself to the nearest wood chipper."
:lol:
by the way for some reason i found your avatar extremely disturbing...