Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: OnyxEchoes on November 25, 2010, 04:37:46 PM
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Hello. Locked my last thread here cause I thought I found the solution [c-bomb] but I've run into a problem.
I have a Fernandes Vertigo Elite (see below). Has a mahogany body and set-neck construction. I want to get a nice heavy pickup to put in this. I was torn at first between the Nailbomb and the Warpig, but then I read up on the Aftermath.
Vertigo has a sustainer placed in the neck position. I've contacted Fernandes to see if I could switch the sustainer to the bridge position while retaining the same functionality but am not hopeful. Not really sure how it works exactly but I imagine it's picking up the string vibrations at their most plentiful spot. I really hate the bridge pickup sound though on a guitar and almost always play neck or combo as I prefer a more balanced, woody, less trebly tone. I only ever use bridge if I need a certain tone on a solo.
Any suggestions on a way around this? I read another forum this:
Just a suggestion from a theoretical point of view. You could try a very high output neck position humbucker in there. Heres my reasoning. Bridge position is overwound compared to neck position to compensate for less vibration of the strings. If you put a normal neck pickup in it'll sound weak and as already mentioned in the thread a bridge pickup is gonna sound like a bridge. Put an overwound high output neck pickup in & the overwinding may compensate for the less string vibration & might sound closer to a "normal" neck pickup.
I'm not an ace at pickup theory, but isn't overwinding what gives pickups high output?
I just want a massive, dark-sounding humbucker with tight bass response and smooth, balanced highs. Don't really want the trebly tone of bridge though. One user suggested a Warpig, from what I read and heard of it this might be the option, but I was initially intrigued by the c-bomb and the Aftermath because of the ceramic magnet. Just wanted a little more input before I pull the trigger. Thanks!
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You are the first Metal? player i've ever heard of which preferred the neck instead of bridge :P well okay. Maybe yngwie too.
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Alnico Miracle man?
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the neck miracle man sounds great in the bridge position
it's like an even fatter and smoother holy diver
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how about rolling the tone down on your gutar. It gets rid of treble.
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Gonna go ahead with the Miracle Man. Funny, wasn't even on my radar. Thanks for the input guys.
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Gonna go ahead with the Miracle Man. Funny, wasn't even on my radar. Thanks for the input guys.
try a 300k volume pot too. rolls off some high end.
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i'd suggest the warpig. it's got a REALLY meaty tone. if you use a 300k pot for volume and play around with resistors, to simulate the tone control (i am REALLY REALLY REALLY not a fan of tone pots.. they suck out all the tone from a guitar)
with this you should get a nice full, warm kind of tone and still retain all the definition of the pickup.
the C-pig is a completely different beast. it's far more trebbly. the MM is hotter than the WP, at least in its perceived volume, cos it has a lot more mids and highs. i've got all three basically in the same guitar, so i did a lot of side by side comparison.
as far as sticking an alnico in a MM, cant comment, havent heard one ever.
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If you do hear back from Fernandes about moving the sustainer to the bridge position, I'd be interested to hear what they say; I've been thinking about the possibility of installing the sustainer in the middle position in a 3-humbucker guitar, so I could have standard neck and bridge pickup sounds as well as the sustainer effect.