Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Stabbing_Westward33 on November 28, 2010, 09:09:43 AM
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Hey Guys...building a new guitar...I am looking for a pickup that has very tight lows and can handle droptuning well (I usually tune in A#, G or F) without getting muddy. I've been considering trying out a Nailbomb since it has a reputation of being very versitile (cuz you can't play metal all the time) and sound very nice on the clean channel. Is this a good choice, or should I look at a different pickup? If you have any suggestions , feel free to tell me. Thanks for the help!
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Cold sweat
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What kind of woods are going in the guitar? I'm going to agree with Madsakre's Cold Sweat recommendation for now until I know more. Definitely not thinking Nailbomb here.
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Some more info about the guitar would be helpfull. Amp too.
If your amp can handle a bit of output on a clean setting also look at the Crawler.
It is very versitile. When tuned down low it get a bit doomy.
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In this case I would count Black Dog in, as many people stated here that it handles low tunings with authority.
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my guitar has a mahogany body with a maple top, a maple neck and an ebony fretboard
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What ever happened to standard tuning?
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What ever happened to standard tuning?
I play standardtuning, but I don't shred either. :)
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What ever happened to standard tuning?
It got flushed out with the poodle hair & make-up
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What ever happened to standard tuning?
"Standard" tuning never existed. Spanish tuning did, which was appropriated by the classical world. But no tuning has ever really been standard. Until a fair way into the last century, most players around the world would tune to a chord, and one a bit lower than the the E below A-440.
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What ever happened to standard tuning?
It got flushed out with the poodle hair & make-up
Yeah, I do c--k rock it up a little. I play in Eb too, is that considered cool these days...?
:P
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The Black Dog would work great, or you could consider the Riff Raff, which would would offer a similar vibe with more bite.
Don't be put off by the lower output, these pickups can be just as brutal as the contemporary models when needed.
If you definitely want a contemporary output level, the Aftermath is a monster for low end tightness and clarity. The Cold Sweat is also very clear no matter how low, but isn't as inherently aggressive.
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What about the Painkiller? I've heard people say they sound like a more organic, fuller emg 81 with lots of mids. I have an EMG 81 in my guitar right now, and I like it, except for the fact it sounds a bit lifeless and inorganic...does anyone know of any clips of the black dog playing in droptune?
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The Painkiller could also work out very well. Very tight, clear and aggressive, though not the most versatile of the range.
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Do like me. Ditch versatility for more guitars ^^
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I e-mailed Tim and asked him for his suggestion on what pickup I should get and he suggested the Aftermath...I looked up the soundclip for it and was blown away by how tight it sounded in droptune! Does anyone here have any experience with the aftermath? Is it versitile or sound good clean?
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It does sound pretty good clean, but it is primarily aimed at aggressive high gain articulate punchy sounds, which is does superbly well!
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The Black Dog would work great, or you could consider the Riff Raff, which would would offer a similar vibe with more bite.
Don't be put off by the lower output, these pickups can be just as brutal as the contemporary models when needed.
If you definitely want a contemporary output level, the Aftermath is a monster for low end tightness and clarity. The Cold Sweat is also very clear no matter how low, but isn't as inherently aggressive.
I asked Tim about a bridge pickup for drop C in a similar guitar, mentioning Aftermath an C-Bomb, and that I want a pickup with bite for high gain rhythm playing, and he recomanded Could Sweat. So I started to consider Could Sweat, and now this. I'm lost again. What do you mean by contemporary output level? Higher?
So, Aftermath is more aggressive?
It sounds thicker, because of the low mids I belive, but Could Sweat appears to have more piercing highs. But they are medium output, don't they? So...
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What really trips me up is that anytime someone wants to play teh brutalz metalz, everyone says to get Cold Sweats... Nail Bombs are supposed to be overwound Cold Sweats and are higher output... This place confuses me...
I ordered some zebra Miracle Man's BTW!
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Zebra MM ... Excellent, hope you like them!!
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I asked Tim about a bridge pickup for drop C in a similar guitar, mentioning Aftermath an C-Bomb, and that I want a pickup with bite for high gain rhythm playing, and he recomanded Could Sweat. So I started to consider Could Sweat, and now this. I'm lost again. What do you mean by contemporary output level? Higher?
So, Aftermath is more aggressive?
It sounds thicker, because of the low mids I belive, but Could Sweat appears to have more piercing highs. But they are medium output, don't they? So...
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Well I think the reason he recomended me the Aftermath is because I tune in G, so I needed a pickup that sounds real tight and clear in drop tunings...as that was my main concern. Since your guitar is tuned in drop C, You probably don't need to focus on tightness as much as I do...plus I think Tim would know the pickups he built more than anyone...I've never heard of someone who has been disapointed by the sound of a pickup he recomended for them...I'd take his advice.
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What really trips me up is that anytime someone wants to play teh brutalz metalz, everyone says to get Cold Sweats... Nail Bombs are supposed to be overwound Cold Sweats and are higher output... This place confuses me...
I ordered some zebra Miracle Man's BTW!
What confuses me is that when people mention brutal metal, then they start about djent stuff :S Djent is hippie music.
When i think of brutal metal, then my thoughts fall on bands like Myrkskog.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_CspSE1BDA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_CspSE1BDA) - This is brutality
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Yeah, I wonder a bit at things some people describe as "brutal" but then what even constitutes "heavy" can vary wildly from person to person, so it's all relative, obviously.
Really though, it's not brutal till it's as horrible as Revenge :lol: Necro Bestial War Metal for the win!
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What ever happened to standard tuning?
It got flushed out with the poodle hair & make-up
Yeah, I do c--k rock it up a little. I play in Eb too, is that considered cool these days...?
:P
Drop G# here. :lol:
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Yeah, I wonder a bit at things some people describe as "brutal" but then what even constitutes "heavy" can vary wildly from person to person, so it's all relative, obviously.
Really though, it's not brutal till it's as horrible as Revenge :lol: Necro Bestial War Metal for the win!
Norwegian Necro bestial goat war metal from canada. I really hate that genre. I grew up with a couple of guys who was into all that kind of shitee. I just ditched them because those suckers became neo-nazis and all they do now is play this shiteety kind of music and then hands out pamplets about how bad the jews are..
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What really trips me up is that anytime someone wants to play teh brutalz metalz, everyone says to get Cold Sweats... Nail Bombs are supposed to be overwound Cold Sweats and are higher output... This place confuses me...
I ordered some zebra Miracle Man's BTW!
What confuses me is that when people mention brutal metal, then they start about djent stuff :S Djent is hippie music.
When i think of brutal metal, then my thoughts fall on bands like Myrkskog.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_CspSE1BDA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_CspSE1BDA) - This is brutality
That's moronic metal
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Yeah, I wonder a bit at things some people describe as "brutal" but then what even constitutes "heavy" can vary wildly from person to person, so it's all relative, obviously.
Really though, it's not brutal till it's as horrible as Revenge :lol: Necro Bestial War Metal for the win!
Norwegian Necro bestial goat war metal from canada. I really hate that genre. I grew up with a couple of guys who was into all that kind of shiteeee. I just ditched them because those suckers became neo-nazis and all they do now is play this shiteeeety kind of music and then hands out pamplets about how bad the jews are..
Revenge are great. So are all the cats doing that stuff. It does also appeal to all the NSBM clowns too, though. Presumably because Graveland, Hate Forest et al are terrible, so they gravitate to good bands and just pretend they're singing about hating Jews so they can justify them to their pals.
What really trips me up is that anytime someone wants to play teh brutalz metalz, everyone says to get Cold Sweats... Nail Bombs are supposed to be overwound Cold Sweats and are higher output... This place confuses me...
I ordered some zebra Miracle Man's BTW!
What confuses me is that when people mention brutal metal, then they start about djent stuff :S Djent is hippie music.
When i think of brutal metal, then my thoughts fall on bands like Myrkskog.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_CspSE1BDA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_CspSE1BDA) - This is brutality
That's moronic metal
Nope. You're thinking of Disturbed.
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No thats Mormon metal ;D
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I thought that track was pretty awesome, just really generic.
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Generic maybe. That track is 8 years old. and myrkskog, hate eternal etc made that sound
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To be fair, Myrkskog and Hate Eternal don't sit in the same kinda ball park at all - well, within extreme metal they don't, to the mainstream listener they do.
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Well conquering the throne and Superior massacre had kinda the same feel to them. Still CTT had dough cerrito on guitars, so theres a pinch of suffocation over it too.
But these bands laid down the sound which Fleshgod Apocalypse, Hour of penance etc plays nowadays
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I'd say that's real Brutality as I understand it ;):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h21pPDrMt7g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMX1bGOYE7A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dl5l6KU9iA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEbJCeqdHZw
And a "deseased" one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdwYP8Cr5lQ
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As much as I love thrash, it's like pop music comparitively.
Getting to see Coroner in June 8) Probably in August too 8) 8)
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Oh :O Nice one man. I saw Macabre, Immolation, Napalm Death, Pestilence and illdisposed 3 weeks ago. What a blast